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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#281 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:00 pm

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#282 » by Ayt » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:18 pm

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It's probably less about them wanting to dump him than it is they're asking for a monster package in return.


Your statement is 100% accurate.

I think my post was going more towards the thought of how a guy with that pedigree, could end up in a situation where his reputation has fallen so badly with fans, media and presumably other teams. If I were Atlanta, Dallas or some team looking for that 2nd or 3rd star, I'd be working hard to take a chance here.


Surprising Por isn't sticking their nose in at all


What makes you think they haven't? I'd imagine tons of teams have been in touch to see where Philly is at in terms of compensation.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#283 » by DingleJerry » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 pm

Ayt wrote:
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paulpressey25 wrote:
Your statement is 100% accurate.

I think my post was going more towards the thought of how a guy with that pedigree, could end up in a situation where his reputation has fallen so badly with fans, media and presumably other teams. If I were Atlanta, Dallas or some team looking for that 2nd or 3rd star, I'd be working hard to take a chance here.


Surprising Por isn't sticking their nose in at all


What makes you think they haven't? I'd imagine tons of teams have been in touch to see where Philly is at in terms of compensation.


Well yea, sure. Bad phrasing I suppose but I just mean there hasn't seem to be any chatter on them and don't seem involved to the best idiots like us can know. Exact type of team that needs a shake up and would be worth gambling for young star player.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#284 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:45 pm

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Was thinking about that yesterday as I read his comments. He can't say that stuff LOL.

Also on the Lowe pod, Bobby Marks and Zach were wondering why the free agent frenzy tampering stuff hadn't been resolved yet with the league. That Ball and Lowry issues are still out there.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#285 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 pm

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Surprising Por isn't sticking their nose in at all


I'd assume Portland has had McCollum on the table for an even swap for quite some time now. And Philly probably says no, we want Dame. And then Portland says no Dame, it would be CJ, and maybe we'll send you back RoCo, but you include Maxey.

In the meantime, some other team is going to sweep in and finally get him I'd think.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#286 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:50 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Yeah, he continues to make too much sense for the Wolves. If Minny can't make a D-Lo/Edwards/Simmons/KAT core work then they're probably gonna have to blow it up anyways and just build around Edwards and picks. Just get any competent 3&D wing in there with those 4 and you should in theory be a playoff team with upside. It's well worth the risk and they have win-now assets that Philly would want (Beverly, Beasley, Reid, Okogie) as well as all their future picks.
Probably because I haven't watched the wolves less than a handful of games since KAT has been around (or healthy), but I think they should trade KAT and DLo and start over now. I may be out of my mind.

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#287 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:56 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:[ but I think they should trade KAT and DLo and start over now. I may be out of my mind.



Wolves problem is similar to the problem we had under Herb Kohl. The culture literally prevents winning. Not a fan of the guys on their roster at all, but Glenn Taylor has been a terrible owner.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#288 » by Plossum » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:15 pm

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Was thinking about that yesterday as I read his comments. He can't say that stuff LOL.

Also on the Lowe pod, Bobby Marks and Zach were wondering why the free agent frenzy tampering stuff hadn't been resolved yet with the league. That Ball and Lowry issues are still out there.


There will be a low-key announcement after opening day about a paltry $50k fine or something. Carry on, nothing to see here.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#289 » by Matches Malone » Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:33 pm

Interesting stuff from Timberwolves reporter.

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There's also this theory lol

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#290 » by raferfenix » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:16 am

Maybe Morey wins out and the Wolves end up trading a stupid amount for Simmons :o

If Rodriguez and Lore really are 'fond of Sixers general manager Elton Brand' that would add a whole other layer to it too.

Or Rosas got busted banging an intern and after an investigation had to get fired.

From that vantage point, if the Wolves' aren't trading for Simmons it'd be a fine enough time to cut the cord, however KAT tweeting WTF doesn't make it seem like this was any sort of savvy crisis pr play.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#291 » by raferfenix » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:40 am

HurricaneKid wrote:And who the **** wants DLo at his price anyways?


Yeah do the Sixers really hold out for Russell? Do the Wolves can their POBO for refusing to trade him?

You'd think the KAT factor alone makes his value to the Wolves greater than anywhere else.

That and if Morey does make a deal with Minny it's all about the future picks which he can hold on to until the next star becomes available.

DLo isn't moving any needles. An extra first round pick and added cap flexibility (Beverley and Beasley's deals would be easier to use as trade chum) seems more valuable from an asset standpoint.

Or these teams are collectively desperate and frantic and maybe everyone loses in some crazy deal here.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#292 » by emunney » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:44 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
It's probably less about them wanting to dump him than it is they're asking for a monster package in return.


Your statement is 100% accurate.

I think my post was going more towards the thought of how a guy with that pedigree, could end up in a situation where his reputation has fallen so badly with fans, media and presumably other teams. If I were Atlanta, Dallas or some team looking for that 2nd or 3rd star, I'd be working hard to take a chance here.


Oh, he'd be so good in Atlanta. My god. Have to hope Mr. Bullet with Butterfly Wings disagrees.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#293 » by giannis and 1 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:46 am

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#294 » by tydett » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:57 am

emunney wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
It's probably less about them wanting to dump him than it is they're asking for a monster package in return.


Your statement is 100% accurate.

I think my post was going more towards the thought of how a guy with that pedigree, could end up in a situation where his reputation has fallen so badly with fans, media and presumably other teams. If I were Atlanta, Dallas or some team looking for that 2nd or 3rd star, I'd be working hard to take a chance here.


Oh, he'd be so good in Atlanta. My god. Have to hope Mr. Bullet with Butterfly Wings disagrees.


John Collins and Reddish and some picks in a few months might look pretty appetizing to both teams.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#295 » by WRau1 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:12 am

KD supposedly vetoed the Kyrie for Simmons deal that BKN was close to completing.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#296 » by giannis and 1 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:13 am

tydett wrote:
emunney wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
Your statement is 100% accurate.

I think my post was going more towards the thought of how a guy with that pedigree, could end up in a situation where his reputation has fallen so badly with fans, media and presumably other teams. If I were Atlanta, Dallas or some team looking for that 2nd or 3rd star, I'd be working hard to take a chance here.


Oh, he'd be so good in Atlanta. My god. Have to hope Mr. Bullet with Butterfly Wings disagrees.


John Collins and Reddish and some picks in a few months might look pretty appetizing to both teams.

Atlanta has a lot of different pieces they could put on the table.

I’m not sure about the fit though. Would there be enough ball for both Trae and Simmons? How do they manage having both Capela and Simmons on the floor?
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#297 » by BroncoBuck » Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:19 am

I remember proposing Ayton, Bridges, Jackson for KAT on draft night. I’ve just never been in on the KAT hype train. Incredible offensive player who hasn’t put in the work on defense. He jumped at everything in college and put up some impressive numbers, but the pros are so much harder you can’t get away with doing that.

My new hypothetical would be KAT for Jaylen Brown + Pritchard. I think Boston is looking towards Beal as their SG of the future and Beal/Tatum/Towns would absolutely light up the scoreboard.

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#298 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:26 am

Philly is just going to have to accept that Simmons has very little value with that contract taken into consideration, or at least nowhere near what they want. If they let this play out they’re potentially tanking a season with a seemingly healthy Embiid.

Portland by far makes the most sense, and I think McCollum for Simmons works great for both teams. I’d play Simmons at the 5 if I’m Portland.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#299 » by BroncoBuck » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:25 am

McCollum fractured his back last year. Betting on an aging undersized guard is already a gamble, betting on one with a back injury is just doubling down. I don’t see it happening.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#300 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:20 am

WRau1 wrote:KD supposedly vetoed the Kyrie for Simmons deal that BKN was close to completing.

I feel Simmons would have been perfect on the nets. Would have made the backcourt a plus on defense and would've become a slasher with KD and Harden drawing away attention.

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