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[HotelVitale]

Ben and Thybulle go to Sacramento for De'aaron and Harrison Barnes, This way both teams get a Guard/Big duo (De'aaron Fox and Joel Embiid) (Ben Simmons and Buddy Heild) Both teams get a extra player from the other team to compensate for chemistry. Ben also doesnt end up going to a shooting focused team and staff group like the Rockets, Blazers, or Warriors. Philly gets a proper PG C duo. Both teams become Playoff contenders. =

I think Fox is the all around better player. I might make a deal if I'm the kings if I can get Ben and not give up Fox or Haliburton. Something like Hield, Bagley and Mitchell and a #1 pick for Simmons and Curry makes some sense to me.

That would be a full no brainer for SAC, which means it doesn’t need to be discussed. If the Sixers absolutely have no choice but to take something like that, sure they’ll take it and cry themselves to sleep with suicide hotline on speed dial, but it doesn’t make any sense beyond that scenario.

[basketballwacko2]

I think Fox is the all around better player. I might make a deal if I'm the kings if I can get Ben and not give up Fox or Haliburton. Something like Hield, Bagley and Mitchell and a #1 pick for Simmons and Curry makes some sense to me.

i mentioned this earlier 76ers fans were not happy about it

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

I won't accuse another fanbase of being "unreasonable" but for a lakers fan to say anyone is would be the pot calling the kettle black.

IDK if that offer I put together is enough for the 76ers, but with every day this lingers on with Ben seeming to be set on not reporting to camp his value drops. Bagley is in his last year of his rookie deal so he could have a big incentive to play well. I liked Mitchell coming out of Baylor he could be the PG that the 6ers are looking for. Hield is a shooter rather one dimensional but his 40.6% 3pt shot is elite.

[basketballwacko2]

Ben and Thybulle go to Sacramento for De'aaron and Harrison Barnes, This way both teams get a Guard/Big duo (De'aaron Fox and Joel Embiid) (Ben Simmons and Buddy Heild) Both teams get a extra player from the other team to compensate for chemistry. Ben also doesnt end up going to a shooting focused team and staff group like the Rockets, Blazers, or Warriors. Philly gets a proper PG C duo. Both teams become Playoff contenders. =

I think Fox is the all around better player. I might make a deal if I'm the kings if I can get Ben and not give up Fox or Haliburton. Something like Hield, Bagley and Mitchell and a #1 pick for Simmons and Curry makes some sense to me.

That would be a full no brainer for SAC, which means it doesn’t need to be discussed. If the Sixers absolutely have no choice but to take something like that, sure they’ll take it and cry themselves to sleep with suicide hotline on speed dial, but it doesn’t make any sense beyond that scenario.

This is what happens when you have a high priced player who says he wants out (see Paul George case). The Pacers were thought to have screwed the pooch in the trade for Sabonis and Oladipo. They ended up with a great season from Vic then after the injury traded him off for LeVert and some 2nds, and they still have Sabonis, and that's not bad for a guy who said he wanted out.

One point about that trade I put together is it almost gets the 76ers out of the tax.

[jayjaysee]

I know it’s probably been posted over and over, and know I posted similar too many times but;

TT, Bagley, Mitchell, and any min contract for Simmons is legal. And Sac has some small TPE’s for Joe and Reed (or whoever).. Throw in a first and move on.

Sac can get back under the tax later in the season dumping Mo. Thin rotation for this season, hope Buddy has a strong season and break him into 2-3 roleplayers in the offseason if the team doesn’t want to pay the tax.

Understand that’s too simple to work though. 6 months ago it would be crazy to suggest Simmons for the 9th pick and a protected pick. Now it’s in the top tier of offers.

[Ballerhogger]

I think Fox is the all around better player. I might make a deal if I'm the kings if I can get Ben and not give up Fox or Haliburton. Something like Hield, Bagley and Mitchell and a #1 pick for Simmons and Curry makes some sense to me.

i mentioned this earlier 76ers fans were not happy about it

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

Thats not true. i said buddy and bagely and FRP you said it wasn't articulate enough so i went into further detail. With all due respect.

[Ballerhogger]

i mentioned this earlier 76ers fans were not happy about it

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

I won't accuse another fanbase of being "unreasonable" but for a lakers fan to say anyone is would be the pot calling the kettle black.

IDK if that offer I put together is enough for the 76ers, but with every day this lingers on with Ben seeming to be set on not reporting to camp his value drops. Bagley is in his last year of his rookie deal so he could have a big incentive to play well. I liked Mitchell coming out of Baylor he could be the PG that the 6ers are looking for. Hield is a shooter rather one dimensional but his 40.6% 3pt shot is elite.

yes, they get shooter and get out ben situation , which is going to drag on way past oct 1 where he makes half his contract.

[BullyKing]

i mentioned this earlier 76ers fans were not happy about it

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

Thats not true. i said buddy and bagely and FRP you said it wasn't articulate enough so i went into further detail. With all due respect.

[Ballerhogger]

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

Thats not true. i said buddy and bagely and FRP you said it wasn't articulate enough so i went into further detail. With all due respect.

the meat and bones of it bagely and buddy and FRP . which is almost what the other poster suggested with all due respect.

[BullyKing]

I'm honestly very tired of you lying to make it seem like Sixers fans are unreasonable. This proposal has Mitchell included, yours did not. You continuously take an offer that is significantly different than yours and say oh well I said something similar and Sixers fans didn't like it. You can't take an offer that has piece added - that is the most valuable piece in the proposal - and pretend it is like yours. If you are going to keep repeating yourself incessantly in this thread then I'm going to insist that you are at least intellectually honest about it.

Thats not true. i said buddy and bagely and FRP you said it wasn't articulate enough so i went into further detail. With all due respect.

the meat and bones of it bagely and buddy and FRP . which is almost what the other poster suggested with all due respect.

[basketballwacko2]

Thats not true. i said buddy and bagely and FRP you said it wasn't articulate enough so i went into further detail. With all due respect.

the meat and bones of it bagely and buddy and FRP . which is almost what the other poster suggested with all due respect.

I think adding Mitchell makes a significant difference.

[Texas Chuck]

I know it’s probably been posted over and over, and know I posted similar too many times but;

TT, Bagley, Mitchell, and any min contract for Simmons is legal. And Sac has some small TPE’s for Joe and Reed (or whoever).. Throw in a first and move on.

Sac can get back under the tax later in the season dumping Mo. Thin rotation for this season, hope Buddy has a strong season and break him into 2-3 roleplayers in the offseason if the team doesn’t want to pay the tax.

Understand that’s too simple to work though. 6 months ago it would be crazy to suggest Simmons for the 9th pick and a protected pick. Now it’s in the top tier of offers.

I'd switch Thompson/Bagley to Barnes and put slight protections on the pick and sure.

[BullyKing]

I know it’s probably been posted over and over, and know I posted similar too many times but;

TT, Bagley, Mitchell, and any min contract for Simmons is legal. And Sac has some small TPE’s for Joe and Reed (or whoever).. Throw in a first and move on.

Sac can get back under the tax later in the season dumping Mo. Thin rotation for this season, hope Buddy has a strong season and break him into 2-3 roleplayers in the offseason if the team doesn’t want to pay the tax.

Understand that’s too simple to work though. 6 months ago it would be crazy to suggest Simmons for the 9th pick and a protected pick. Now it’s in the top tier of offers.

I'd switch Thompson/Bagley to Barnes and put slight protections on the pick and sure.

I agree. Barnes/Mitchell/lightly protected 1st isn't a good offer but its a reasonable and fair one under the circumstances

[NYG]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2124263

Honestly, I think Simmons, Maxey and '23 Unprotected 1st for an expiring Beal is reasonable especially if Minnesota with new ownership wanting to make a splash and a new GM on a long leash would give up 3-4 Unprotected 1st's plus Bev and Prince.

That's Bradley Beal for Tyrese Maxey, Expiring Contracts and 4-5 Unprotected 1st Round Picks... they may prefer that to Wiseman, Moody and Kuminga if 1-2 of those 3 don't look good to start the season and Maxey does look good?

[Ballerhogger]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2124263

Honestly, I think Simmons, Maxey and '23 Unprotected 1st for an expiring Beal is reasonable especially if Minnesota with new ownership wanting to make a splash and a new GM on a long leash would give up 3-4 Unprotected 1st's plus Bev and Prince.

That's Bradley Beal for Tyrese Maxey, Expiring Contracts and 4-5 Unprotected 1st Round Picks... they may prefer that to Wiseman, Moody and Kuminga if 1-2 of those 3 don't look good to start the season and Maxey does look good?

morey been pretty stone clad on keeping Maxey . If he terrible like completely unplayable I don’t thinks another team would want him now. I don’t see maxey being traded with Ben unless they can get star which doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen

[Tomjas]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2124263

Honestly, I think Simmons, Maxey and '23 Unprotected 1st for an expiring Beal is reasonable especially if Minnesota with new ownership wanting to make a splash and a new GM on a long leash would give up 3-4 Unprotected 1st's plus Bev and Prince.

That's Bradley Beal for Tyrese Maxey, Expiring Contracts and 4-5 Unprotected 1st Round Picks... they may prefer that to Wiseman, Moody and Kuminga if 1-2 of those 3 don't look good to start the season and Maxey does look good?

Nobody is paying that for an expiring

[Texas Chuck]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2124263

Honestly, I think Simmons, Maxey and '23 Unprotected 1st for an expiring Beal is reasonable especially if Minnesota with new ownership wanting to make a splash and a new GM on a long leash would give up 3-4 Unprotected 1st's plus Bev and Prince.

That's Bradley Beal for Tyrese Maxey, Expiring Contracts and 4-5 Unprotected 1st Round Picks... they may prefer that to Wiseman, Moody and Kuminga if 1-2 of those 3 don't look good to start the season and Maxey does look good?

Nobody is paying that for an expiring

Goes without saying for Washington to get max value in a Beal deal, he will be agreeing to an extension with the new team as part of it.

[NYG]

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2124263

Nobody is paying that for an expiring

Goes without saying for Washington to get max value in a Beal deal, he will be agreeing to an extension with the new team as part of it.

Yeah sorry, I left room for confusion. I meant expiring from Washington's perspective.

[gambitx777]

Beal ain't getting traded for Ben Simmons lol. The wizards would be horrid with out Beal. Even with Ben.

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[babyjax13]

Minnesota trades: Karl Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell, Taurean Prince, Malik Beasley, Anthony Edwards, Josh Okogie
Minnesota receives: Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum, Ben Simmons, Jusuf Nurkic
Minnesota builds a contender.

Nurkic/Reid/Vanderbilt
Simmons/McDaniels/Reid
McDaniels/Layman
McCollum/Nowell
Lillard/Bolmaro/McLaughlin

Portland trades: Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum, Jusuf Nurkic
Portland receives: Karl Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell, Josh Okogie, Matisse Thybulle
Portland rebuilds a bit without becoming abjectly terrible.

Russell/Simons
Powell/Okogie
Thybulle/Snell/Layman
Covington/Little/Brown
Towns/Zeller

Philadelphia trades: Ben Simmons, Matisse Thybulle
Philadelphia receives: Anthony Edwards, Taurean Prince, Malik Beasley
Philadelphia gets a young star plus a 16-20ppg complimentary player in Beasley. They'll probably have to flip someone for a point guard.

Embiid/Drummond/Reed
Harris/Niang/Prince
Edwards/Korkmaz
Beasley/Green/Curry
Curry/Milton/Springer

[Sportfan73]

Lots of nuggets smoke today