Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Ballerhogger]

The third team is OKC when Minny agrees to include Edwards.

Edwards+ for Shai.

your not getting edwards for ben my man

Maybe we'll trade him for Talen Horton-Tucker and a protected first.

we need shooters sorry

[Mik317]

Amico is the bad Sam A

Amick is the good one

I think

[Ballerhogger]

Amico says Nuggets are a sleeper. Wouldn’t Murray have to be involved?

hes coming off big injury but if you can get him get him. Dont know why they would break up the core.

[mg]

Amico is the bad Sam A

Amick is the good one

I think

Correct. Amico just makes up BS under the guise of getting info from "Western Conf Scouts" when it's usually just stuff that he makes up.

[sixers4real]

Shooting % from last season by the two guys from the Spurs people would LOVE to get for Simmons:

Derrick White TS% .550
Dejounte Murray TS % .509

Out of 18 players that played for Spurs last season, White ranks 8th, Murray ranks 17th in TS%.

Derrick White 3PT% .346
Dejounte Murray 3PT% .317

Out of 18 players that played for Spurs last season, White ranks 9th. Murray ranks 12th in 3PT%

I don’t believe these players will improve our team more then Ben Simmons, not to mention make us contenders.
Morey likes numbers, I don’t think that he likes these two players. Neither do I.

[sixers4real]

I think if we make a deal with Wolves, it will be picks and swaps as a priority.
I’m thinking steps ahead, not just this season as we are not contending this year.

Wolves may not want to give up Russell (I don’t want him either way), KAT, Edwards.
But, if they want Simmons badly to play with his buddies along with Edwards and create big 4, that they feel very positive about, they may give up FRPs and swaps for Simmons along with Beasley and Prince.

If they will give 3 FRPs and 3 swaps, that would enormous value for Simmons will can later flip for star that becomes available (Beal/Fox/Ingram/Lillard/Lavine/J.Brown). One of this 6 players can be available the upcoming deadline of next-off-season.

[DCasey91]

Donovan Mitchell
CJ MCCollum
Bradley Beal
Damian Lillard
Brandon Ingram

Morey has a list. Don’t count Ingram out

And definitely don’t count out a 3 way deal.

We all like Maxey but Morey has Embiid. “Windows” open and close very quickly and the “Window” only opened because of Embiid and no one else.

White, Murray (stinks he’s no good), Vassell and picks that’s all well and good for any other time... not now that won’t get you to the big dance.

Teams spend decades without the “Window” opener they don’t just rock up ever year.

Every year should be win now mode.

[the_process]

I think if we make a deal with Wolves, it will be picks and swaps as a priority.
I’m thinking steps ahead, not just this season as we are not contending this year.

Wolves may not want to give up Russell (I don’t want him either way), KAT, Edwards.
But, if they want Simmons badly to play with his buddies along with Edwards and create big 4, that they feel very positive about, they may give up FRPs and swaps for Simmons along with Beasley and Prince.

If they will give 3 FRPs and 3 swaps, that would enormous value for Simmons will can later flip for star that becomes available (Beal/Fox/Ingram/Lillard/Lavine/J.Brown). One of this 6 players can be available the upcoming deadline of next-off-season.

Neubeck wrote in his last article that the Sixers are not interested in picks for Ben, they want a win now impact player. Which means Minny (or whoever) has to shop their picks for a win now player that Philly would be interested in swapping Simmons for.

I’m not saying the Sixers are right or wrong in their view, just that it is clearly the consensus view of management and ownership or a deal for futures would have been consummated by now.

[ProcessDoctor]

Donovan Mitchell
CJ MCCollum
Bradley Beal
Damian Lillard
Brandon Ingram

Morey has a list. Don’t count Ingram out

And definitely don’t count out a 3 way deal.

We all like Maxey but Morey has Embiid. “Windows” open and close very quickly and the “Window” only opened because of Embiid and no one else.

White, Murray (stinks he’s no good), Vassell and picks that’s all well and good for any other time... not now that won’t get you to the big dance.

Teams spend decades without the “Window” opener they don’t just rock up ever year.

Every year should be win now mode.

I doubt McCollum is on that list. Ben would be gone already.

[sixers4real]

I think if we make a deal with Wolves, it will be picks and swaps as a priority.
I’m thinking steps ahead, not just this season as we are not contending this year.

Wolves may not want to give up Russell (I don’t want him either way), KAT, Edwards.
But, if they want Simmons badly to play with his buddies along with Edwards and create big 4, that they feel very positive about, they may give up FRPs and swaps for Simmons along with Beasley and Prince.

If they will give 3 FRPs and 3 swaps, that would enormous value for Simmons will can later flip for star that becomes available (Beal/Fox/Ingram/Lillard/Lavine/J.Brown). One of this 6 players can be available the upcoming deadline of next-off-season.

Neubeck wrote in his last article that the Sixers are not interested in picks for Ben, they want a win now impact player. Which means Minny (or whoever) has to shop their picks for a win now player that Philly would be interested in swapping Simmons for.

I’m not saying the Sixers are right or wrong in their view, just that it is clearly the consensus view of management and ownership or a deal for futures would have been consummated by now.

If Neubeck is right, then yeah, it has to be a three team deal because obviously Sixers don’t want Beasley or Russell as a main piece for Simmons.

Although i do believe a win now player for Simmons trade has to be one of the 6 players I mentioned.

[ProcessDoctor]

Not that what the media says actually matters, but it's nice to hear several analysts criticizing Ben for the way he played against the Hawks and his reluctance to shoot, yet is the one acting like the victim. Many have also noted how he has less leverage than he thinks, given that he has 4 years left on his deal. Philly fans aren't the bad guys this time!

[KramerDSP]

Amico is the bad Sam A

Amick is the good one

I think

Correct. Amico just makes up BS under the guise of getting info from "Western Conf Scouts" when it's usually just stuff that he makes up.

“Amico is a NO”
“Amick is A-OK”

That’s my memory trick to figure those two out.

[Sportfan73]

Donovan Mitchell
CJ MCCollum
Bradley Beal
Damian Lillard
Brandon Ingram

Morey has a list. Don’t count Ingram out

And definitely don’t count out a 3 way deal.

We all like Maxey but Morey has Embiid. “Windows” open and close very quickly and the “Window” only opened because of Embiid and no one else.

White, Murray (stinks he’s no good), Vassell and picks that’s all well and good for any other time... not now that won’t get you to the big dance.

Teams spend decades without the “Window” opener they don’t just rock up ever year.

Every year should be win now mode.

I doubt McCollum is on that list. Ben would be gone already.

I would say CJ is on the list, just not for 1 to 1 value. Also Jamal Murray and kyrie on that list

[Tomjas]

I think if we make a deal with Wolves, it will be picks and swaps as a priority.
I’m thinking steps ahead, not just this season as we are not contending this year.

Wolves may not want to give up Russell (I don’t want him either way), KAT, Edwards.
But, if they want Simmons badly to play with his buddies along with Edwards and create big 4, that they feel very positive about, they may give up FRPs and swaps for Simmons along with Beasley and Prince.

If they will give 3 FRPs and 3 swaps, that would enormous value for Simmons will can later flip for star that becomes available (Beal/Fox/Ingram/Lillard/Lavine/J.Brown). One of this 6 players can be available the upcoming deadline of next-off-season.

Neubeck wrote in his last article that the Sixers are not interested in picks for Ben, they want a win now impact player. Which means Minny (or whoever) has to shop their picks for a win now player that Philly would be interested in swapping Simmons for.

I’m not saying the Sixers are right or wrong in their view, just that it is clearly the consensus view of management and ownership or a deal for futures would have been consummated by now.

If Neubeck is right, then yeah, it has to be a three team deal because obviously Sixers don’t want Beasley or Russell as a main piece for Simmons.

Although i do believe a win now player for Simmons trade has to be one of the 6 players I mentioned.

This is why I keep banging on about a team like Spurs being an ideal trade partner

They have too many players on their roster and all their picks

Choose a combination AND REROUTE whatever it takes to a 3rd team for a star

[sixers4real]

Neubeck wrote in his last article that the Sixers are not interested in picks for Ben, they want a win now impact player. Which means Minny (or whoever) has to shop their picks for a win now player that Philly would be interested in swapping Simmons for.

I’m not saying the Sixers are right or wrong in their view, just that it is clearly the consensus view of management and ownership or a deal for futures would have been consummated by now.

If Neubeck is right, then yeah, it has to be a three team deal because obviously Sixers don’t want Beasley or Russell as a main piece for Simmons.

Although i do believe a win now player for Simmons trade has to be one of the 6 players I mentioned.

This is why I keep banging on about a team like Spurs being an ideal trade partner

They have too many players on their roster and all their picks

Choose a combination AND REROUTE whatever it takes to a 3rd team for a star

Most of them suck though, if not all of them

[the_process]

Neubeck wrote in his last article that the Sixers are not interested in picks for Ben, they want a win now impact player. Which means Minny (or whoever) has to shop their picks for a win now player that Philly would be interested in swapping Simmons for.

I’m not saying the Sixers are right or wrong in their view, just that it is clearly the consensus view of management and ownership or a deal for futures would have been consummated by now.

If Neubeck is right, then yeah, it has to be a three team deal because obviously Sixers don’t want Beasley or Russell as a main piece for Simmons.

Although i do believe a win now player for Simmons trade has to be one of the 6 players I mentioned.

This is why I keep banging on about a team like Spurs being an ideal trade partner

They have too many players on their roster and all their picks

Choose a combination AND REROUTE whatever it takes to a 3rd team for a star

The article made it seem as if the Sixers didn’t want to be bothered to work a three team deal. Anyway, I still think the problem is Morey has all his eggs in the Lillard basket. But Dame isn’t going to publicly ask out and go back on everything he’s ever said, regardless of how he feels. And Portland won’t trade him unless he does. So it’s a waste of time.

Does Morey realize now it’s a waste of time and he has to pivot is the question. Or does he still think “just have Ben show up and wait until Portland sucks and Dame asks out”?

[Jailblazers7]

Best case scenario is probably that KAT is super pissed with mismanagement in Minny and puts pressure on them to Get Ben and push to win now. Him & DLo are super tight so the move would probably be To trade Edwards which doesn’t fit Philly’s timeline. BUT a 3-team trade becomes wayyy easier if Minny is willing to send Edwards to a 3rd team to get Ben.

Maybe POR, WAS, CHI, or some team with a potentially tradeable star gets off to a bad start and is more willing to deal. It then becomes much easier to entice a team like WAS to go full rebuild and swap out Beal for Edwards + picks so Simmons can get to Minny. I don’t think it’s super likely but it’s the only realistic scenario I can imagine that gets Simmons to Minny.

[Tomjas]

If Neubeck is right, then yeah, it has to be a three team deal because obviously Sixers don’t want Beasley or Russell as a main piece for Simmons.

Although i do believe a win now player for Simmons trade has to be one of the 6 players I mentioned.

This is why I keep banging on about a team like Spurs being an ideal trade partner

They have too many players on their roster and all their picks

Choose a combination AND REROUTE whatever it takes to a 3rd team for a star

Most of them suck though, if not all of them

If that were true, it makes their picks very valuable

[Tomjas]

Best case scenario is probably that KAT is super pissed with mismanagement in Minny and puts pressure on them to Get Ben and push to win now. Him & DLo are super tight so the move would probably be To trade Edwards which doesn’t fit Philly’s timeline. BUT a 3-team trade becomes wayyy easier if Minny is willing to send Edwards to a 3rd team to get Ben.

Maybe POR, WAS, CHI, or some team with a potentially tradeable star gets off to a bad start and is more willing to deal. It then becomes much easier to entice a team like WAS to go full rebuild and swap out Beal for Edwards + picks so Simmons can get to Minny. I don’t think it’s super likely but it’s the only realistic scenario I can imagine that gets Simmons to Minny.

I would much prefer Edwards to Beal

[sixers4real]

This is why I keep banging on about a team like Spurs being an ideal trade partner

They have too many players on their roster and all their picks

Choose a combination AND REROUTE whatever it takes to a 3rd team for a star

Most of them suck though, if not all of them

If that were true, it makes their picks very valuable

Yeah, I agree.

Actually, I think we are in a pretty good spot right now. Not as bad as some of the media talks.
Obviously, there are teams interested in Simmons, not one or two. It’s very good that Klutch is saying anywhere but Philly, not just California.

We can see a bidding war for Simmons in December/January, and eventually get a player we like.