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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1861 » by migya » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:24 pm

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migya wrote:Another idea is replace two starting players on a non playoff team. 1980 onwards maybe.

That could be interesting as a non-draft game.


I meant as a draft. Each participant picks a non playoff team and we have a draft to pick two players to replace for that team.

How would it be done without a draft?
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Post#1862 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:46 pm

migya wrote:
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migya wrote:Another idea is replace two starting players on a non playoff team. 1980 onwards maybe.

That could be interesting as a non-draft game.


I meant as a draft. Each participant picks a non playoff team and we have a draft to pick two players to replace for that team.

How would it be done without a draft?

Everyone just creates their team independently rather than doing a draft. Here's an example:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=340&t=1973913&p=83433576&hilit=best+2019+team#p83433576
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Post#1863 » by lilroddyb » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 pm

I thought about a game were everyone impacts each team a lot

everyone drafts pool of 4 players he would most like to have but someone else drafts for him one guy

so lets say the guy with the first pick selects these 4 guys ( Lebron, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant and Tim Duncan ) and guy that drafts next can't select any of these 4 so he selects these 4 ( Shaq, Bird, Magic and Kawhi ) then when everyone has chosen the 4 guys the guy that drafts last picks for each guy one of these 4 players.

so for the guy with first pick he selects Tim Duncan (Lebron, Jordan and Durant are now out of the draft and cant be picked by anyone ) for the next guy he selects Kawhi and Shaq,Bird,Magic cant be picked by anyone and so on and so on

I think this could be fun because you can't get exactly what you want but you sill control most of your team by selection of 4 players. You must choose carefully the 4 guys you want because the drafter thats drafts for you wants to make your team as bad as possible so he has more chances to win. and lastly each player selects 4 players means that the player pool will quickly dry up and we will draft players that are not drafted often

so lets say we have 8 guys participating then in first round the guy with the last pick drafts for every player, in the second round the guy with the 7th pick drafts for every player.

not sure if this makes sense lol
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Post#1864 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:49 pm

lilroddyb wrote:I thought about a game were everyone impacts each team a lot

everyone drafts pool of 4 players he would most like to have but someone else drafts for him one guy

so lets say the guy with the first pick selects these 4 guys ( Lebron, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant and Tim Duncan ) and guy that drafts next can't select any of these 4 so he selects these 4 ( Shaq, Bird, Magic and Kawhi ) then when everyone has chosen the 4 guys the guy that drafts last picks for each guy one of these 4 players.

so for the guy with first pick he selects Tim Duncan (Lebron, Jordan and Durant are now out of the draft and cant be picked by anyone ) for the next guy he selects Kawhi and Shaq,Bird,Magic cant be picked by anyone and so on and so on

I think this could be fun because you can't get exactly what you want but you sill control most of your team by selection of 4 players. You must choose carefully the 4 guys you want because the drafter thats drafts for you wants to make your team as bad as possible so he has more chances to win. and lastly each player selects 4 players means that the player pool will quickly dry up and we will draft players that are not drafted often

so lets say we have 8 guys participating then in first round the guy with the last pick drafts for every player, in the second round the guy with the 7th pick drafts for every player.

not sure if this makes sense lol


I like the concept but instead of having the last person in the round pick for everyone, why not just have

Player 1: Nominates 4 players
Player 2: Selects Player 1's player, then nominates his own 4 players
Player 3: Selects Player 2's player, nominates his own 4,

etc.

This would also eliminate less players since he could nominate ones for himself the 3 players player 1 didn't get
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Post#1865 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:51 pm

I was thinking about the auction concept and if it was a small pool like 2021 seasons, we could price basically everyone ahead of time (at a certain point everyone below a certain level is $1). This would make up for the fact that single seasons draft are so top heavy since you would be paying a premium for someone like Giannis.
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Post#1866 » by lilroddyb » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:17 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:I thought about a game were everyone impacts each team a lot

everyone drafts pool of 4 players he would most like to have but someone else drafts for him one guy

so lets say the guy with the first pick selects these 4 guys ( Lebron, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant and Tim Duncan ) and guy that drafts next can't select any of these 4 so he selects these 4 ( Shaq, Bird, Magic and Kawhi ) then when everyone has chosen the 4 guys the guy that drafts last picks for each guy one of these 4 players.

so for the guy with first pick he selects Tim Duncan (Lebron, Jordan and Durant are now out of the draft and cant be picked by anyone ) for the next guy he selects Kawhi and Shaq,Bird,Magic cant be picked by anyone and so on and so on

I think this could be fun because you can't get exactly what you want but you sill control most of your team by selection of 4 players. You must choose carefully the 4 guys you want because the drafter thats drafts for you wants to make your team as bad as possible so he has more chances to win. and lastly each player selects 4 players means that the player pool will quickly dry up and we will draft players that are not drafted often

so lets say we have 8 guys participating then in first round the guy with the last pick drafts for every player, in the second round the guy with the 7th pick drafts for every player.

not sure if this makes sense lol


I like the concept but instead of having the last person in the round pick for everyone, why not just have

Player 1: Nominates 4 players
Player 2: Selects Player 1's player, then nominates his own 4 players
Player 3: Selects Player 2's player, nominates his own 4,

etc.

This would also eliminate less players since he could nominate ones for himself the 3 players player 1 didn't get



yea I thought about that scenario aswell but I think your team will only be impacted by two other players instead of every player playing in the tournament assuming we would be 8 and have 8 player roster

so lets say there are 8 guys drafting called a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h

after the first round h chooses players for everyone outside of himself, after second round is finished g selects players for everyone, after third round f selects for everyone, after 4th round e selects for everyone and so on

we could also be 16 and then each player would draft one guy for 4 teams

This would also eliminate less players since he could nominate ones for himself the 3 players player 1 didn't get


once 4 guys have been nominated to the pool they can not be nominated again. so there would always be 4 new guys in the pool
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Post#1867 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:29 pm

lilroddyb wrote:once 4 guys have been nominated to the pool they can not be nominated again. so there would always be 4 new guys in the pool


Yes but if 4 players get eliminated every pick it would wipe out the pool pretty fast
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Post#1868 » by lilroddyb » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:06 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:once 4 guys have been nominated to the pool they can not be nominated again. so there would always be 4 new guys in the pool


Yes but if 4 players get eliminated every pick it would wipe out the pool pretty fast


Ye maybe it's too much. Could maybe have the first two rounds two player pool, third and 4th round three player pool and rest of the rounds 4 player pool.

Then everyone should get mvp type player atleast but at the same time we might get bunch of guys rarely, or never drafted before
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Post#1869 » by Laimbeer » Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:43 pm

lilroddyb wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:once 4 guys have been nominated to the pool they can not be nominated again. so there would always be 4 new guys in the pool


Yes but if 4 players get eliminated every pick it would wipe out the pool pretty fast


Ye maybe it's too much. Could maybe have the first two rounds two player pool, third and 4th round three player pool and rest of the rounds 4 player pool.

Then everyone should get mvp type player atleast but at the same time we might get bunch of guys rarely, or never drafted before
I'd like to revive idea of a Dutch auction. Something I would not be able to start as the next game though. I am a little tied up for the next several days

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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1870 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:48 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Yes but if 4 players get eliminated every pick it would wipe out the pool pretty fast


Ye maybe it's too much. Could maybe have the first two rounds two player pool, third and 4th round three player pool and rest of the rounds 4 player pool.

Then everyone should get mvp type player atleast but at the same time we might get bunch of guys rarely, or never drafted before
I'd like to revive idea of a Dutch auction. Something I would not be able to start as the next game though. I am a little tied up for the next several days

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The next game I start is going to be this one but I would prefer to be a different game in between

I was thinking about the auction concept and if it was a small pool like 2021 seasons, we could price basically everyone ahead of time (at a certain point everyone below a certain level is $1). This would make up for the fact that single seasons draft are so top heavy since you would be paying a premium for someone like Giannis.
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Post#1871 » by Laimbeer » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:42 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:
Ye maybe it's too much. Could maybe have the first two rounds two player pool, third and 4th round three player pool and rest of the rounds 4 player pool.

Then everyone should get mvp type player atleast but at the same time we might get bunch of guys rarely, or never drafted before
I'd like to revive idea of a Dutch auction. Something I would not be able to start as the next game though. I am a little tied up for the next several days

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The next game I start is going to be this one but I would prefer to be a different game in between

I was thinking about the auction concept and if it was a small pool like 2021 seasons, we could price basically everyone ahead of time (at a certain point everyone below a certain level is $1). This would make up for the fact that single seasons draft are so top heavy since you would be paying a premium for someone like Giannis.


Yeah I have no real timeline. Whoever wants to start whatever next, go for it.
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Post#1872 » by Colbinii » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:14 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:
Ye maybe it's too much. Could maybe have the first two rounds two player pool, third and 4th round three player pool and rest of the rounds 4 player pool.

Then everyone should get mvp type player atleast but at the same time we might get bunch of guys rarely, or never drafted before
I'd like to revive idea of a Dutch auction. Something I would not be able to start as the next game though. I am a little tied up for the next several days

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The next game I start is going to be this one but I would prefer to be a different game in between

I was thinking about the auction concept and if it was a small pool like 2021 seasons, we could price basically everyone ahead of time (at a certain point everyone below a certain level is $1). This would make up for the fact that single seasons draft are so top heavy since you would be paying a premium for someone like Giannis.


Prepricing isn't an auction, its just using an additional variable to FGA.
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Post#1873 » by migya » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Allstar player first pick and every second pick after that and non allstar player second round pick and every second pick after that. So allstar every odds numbered round and non allstar every even numbered round.
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Post#1874 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:54 pm

Colbinii wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:I'd like to revive idea of a Dutch auction. Something I would not be able to start as the next game though. I am a little tied up for the next several days

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The next game I start is going to be this one but I would prefer to be a different game in between

I was thinking about the auction concept and if it was a small pool like 2021 seasons, we could price basically everyone ahead of time (at a certain point everyone below a certain level is $1). This would make up for the fact that single seasons draft are so top heavy since you would be paying a premium for someone like Giannis.


Prepricing isn't an auction, its just using an additional variable to FGA.


True, I don't think a real auction has worked that well in the past, it's too hard to get everyone there at the same time. We might be better off just trying a really slow one where people have 6 hours to bid on all the first round players one at a time by PM or something.
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Post#1875 » by Colbinii » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:55 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
The next game I start is going to be this one but I would prefer to be a different game in between



Prepricing isn't an auction, its just using an additional variable to FGA.


True, I don't think a real auction has worked that well in the past, it's too hard to get everyone there at the same time. We might be better off just trying a really slow one where people have 6 hours to bid on all the first round players one at a time by PM or something.


It may be too slow. It should be public where everyone bids on the players over a 4 or 6 hour window. Its public when you do something like an auction draft for fantasy football.

I like the idea of Auction but outside of doing something live on Teams or a different video chat, its hard to actually pull off.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1876 » by Laimbeer » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:55 am

Colbinii wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Prepricing isn't an auction, its just using an additional variable to FGA.


True, I don't think a real auction has worked that well in the past, it's too hard to get everyone there at the same time. We might be better off just trying a really slow one where people have 6 hours to bid on all the first round players one at a time by PM or something.


It may be too slow. It should be public where everyone bids on the players over a 4 or 6 hour window. Its public when you do something like an auction draft for fantasy football.

I like the idea of Auction but outside of doing something live on Teams or a different video chat, its hard to actually pull off.


Could divide the players into eight groups and submit sealed bids for each group on eight consecutive days.
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Post#1877 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:13 am

One on one auction?
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Post#1878 » by migya » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:40 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
lilroddyb wrote:I thought about a game were everyone impacts each team a lot

everyone drafts pool of 4 players he would most like to have but someone else drafts for him one guy

so lets say the guy with the first pick selects these 4 guys ( Lebron, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant and Tim Duncan ) and guy that drafts next can't select any of these 4 so he selects these 4 ( Shaq, Bird, Magic and Kawhi ) then when everyone has chosen the 4 guys the guy that drafts last picks for each guy one of these 4 players.

so for the guy with first pick he selects Tim Duncan (Lebron, Jordan and Durant are now out of the draft and cant be picked by anyone ) for the next guy he selects Kawhi and Shaq,Bird,Magic cant be picked by anyone and so on and so on

I think this could be fun because you can't get exactly what you want but you sill control most of your team by selection of 4 players. You must choose carefully the 4 guys you want because the drafter thats drafts for you wants to make your team as bad as possible so he has more chances to win. and lastly each player selects 4 players means that the player pool will quickly dry up and we will draft players that are not drafted often

so lets say we have 8 guys participating then in first round the guy with the last pick drafts for every player, in the second round the guy with the 7th pick drafts for every player.

not sure if this makes sense lol


I like the concept but instead of having the last person in the round pick for everyone, why not just have

Player 1: Nominates 4 players
Player 2: Selects Player 1's player, then nominates his own 4 players
Player 3: Selects Player 2's player, nominates his own 4,

etc.

This would also eliminate less players since he could nominate ones for himself the 3 players player 1 didn't get



This concept sounds different and possibly a good one.
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Post#1879 » by migya » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:42 am

Another one that might be interest for is a current top 100 realgm player draft. We pick only from the recent list of top 100 players project?
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Post#1880 » by migya » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:59 pm

migya wrote:Another one that might be interest for is a current top 100 realgm player draft. We pick only from the recent list of top 100 players project?


Any opinions?

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