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emunney · Post #1361 » by **emunney** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:30 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:Yeah definitely doesn't look like Donte will be ready to start the season. Anyone have any insight on how long his injury typically is?

I've tried a few times to get info on specifically what his surgery was and couldn't. A while back Jim O. said he was ahead of schedule, but there was no timeline, so riddle me that ****.

Matches Malone · Post #1362 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:00 pm

TLDR: Bucks had Antonio Blakeney, Chris McCullough, Josh Gray, and Allonzo Trier in for a free agent minicamp.

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EastSideBucksFan · Post #1363 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:12 pm

emunney wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:Yeah definitely doesn't look like Donte will be ready to start the season. Anyone have any insight on how long his injury typically is?

I've tried a few times to get info on specifically what his surgery was and couldn't. A while back Jim O. said he was ahead of schedule, but there was no timeline, so riddle me that ****.

I saw Donte walking into St Lukes a week ago

Walking without a scooter or walker, but limping enough that there's no way he's running yet.

Rehab intensive enough to not be at Bucks facilities yet.

Don't see him ready to start the season, would guess he misses the first couple months of the season

Ron Swanson · Post #1364 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:21 pm

If Allonzo Trier finally matured even a little, then he should absolutely be on an NBA roster. He's way too talented not to be.

RRyder823 · Post #1365 » by **RRyder823** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:40 pm

I just gotta say peeps it's been great to have an offseason where every other trade idea thrown out there isnt to get rid of Middletons contract or find a new point guard. (or even just trading trading guys to shuffle the deck chairs)

Been a nice change of pace from every other year
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SupremeHustle · Post #1366 » by **SupremeHustle** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:59 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If Allonzo Trier finally matured even a little, then he should absolutely be on an NBA roster. He's way too talented not to be.

blazza18 · Post #1367 » by **blazza18** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:06 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:The guy who's played 40-games in 2 years and went 0-6 in overtime while losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs is #1 on ESPN's list. Predictable.

Too be fair he's really **** good.

drone3 · Post #1368 » by **drone3** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:39 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If Allonzo Trier finally matured even a little, then he should absolutely be on an NBA roster. He's way too talented not to be.

Up for Trier , really not sure why he doesn't have an NBA spot. Assumed it was attitude.

He's kind of like Lou Williams

GoldenAntlers · Post #1369 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:58 pm

RRyder823 wrote:I just gotta say peeps it's been great to have an offseason where every other trade idea thrown out there isnt to get rid of Middletons contract or find a new point guard. (or even just trading trading guys to shuffle the deck chairs)

Been a nice change of pace from every other year
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It has been nice, but I had to pick up another hobby with the downtime.

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Milbucks96 · Post #1370 » by **Milbucks96** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:39 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:The guy who's played 40-games in 2 years and went 0-6 in overtime while losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs is #1 on ESPN's list. Predictable.

Too be fair he's really **** good.

Yea Kd is #1 for me too but it’s close between him and Giannis. I don’t think it’s controversial to go with either one.

AussieBuck · Post #1371 » by **AussieBuck** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:03 am

Ron Swanson wrote:The guy who's played 40-games in 2 years and went 0-6 in overtime while losing in the 2nd round of the playoffs is #1 on ESPN's list. Predictable.

Pretty crazy isn't it? Harden was clearly their best player this season until he got injured. People hang **** on him for joining the 73 win team but look the reputation bump he got out of it!

Plossum · Post #1372 » by **Plossum** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:16 am

It's more egregious they're ranking Luka over Jokic.

Ayt · Post #1373 » by **Ayt** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:09 am

Ron Swanson wrote:If Allonzo Trier finally matured even a little, then he should absolutely be on an NBA roster. He's way too talented not to be.

He could be a great reclamation project. The guy can definitely play.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1374 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:24 am

Antonio Blakeney is one of those "if he was better he'd be awesome" type guys. Like when he's actually playing well you can squint hard enough and see like Jordan Clarkson or something but then you open your eyes and realize he's not good.

JayMKE · Post #1375 » by **JayMKE** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:55 am

KD isnt going to sniff MVP since there is no way he plays 70 games

LuessiT · Post #1376 » by **LuessiT** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:37 am

drone3 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If Allonzo Trier finally matured even a little, then he should absolutely be on an NBA roster. He's way too talented not to be.

Up for Trier , really not sure why he doesn't have an NBA spot. Assumed it was attitude.

He's kind of like Lou Williams

That role just isn't that valueable, especially on a contender. Contenders have plenty of guys who can absorb usage in a pinch. Maybe Trier hoisting up a shot over lets say Donte is slightly more efficient and aesthetically pleasing, but Donte getting a single rebound that otherwhise would have gone to the opposing team totally neglects that.

A slightly worse Lou Williams with a worse attitude (by every report Lou is an amazing teammate) is not an NBA player imo.

DrWood · Post #1377 » by **DrWood** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:22 am

ReasonablySober wrote:ESPN's NBA Rank has Jrue at #22 and Middleton at #19. Giannis is the only other top 100 guy. Their top five in some order is Giannis, LeBron, KD, Luka, and Steph.

I thought Lopez was around 82.

CharityStripe34 · Post #1378 » by **CharityStripe34** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Luka in the 6-10 range sounds about right as opposed to the love he gets on this site, but it's getting hard to ignore the play-style bias that plagues the mainstream media. Putting Lebron and Steph ahead of Jokic after the season he just had is insulting. But really, casual NBA people just absolutely love their "dribble-dribble-crossover, step-back jumper" guys and it's painfully obvious based on how much of a bump they give some of these dudes (KD, Curry, Tatum, Beal).

I would take Jokic and Kawhi over Luka and Steph in a heartbeat. And I definitely respect the latter two. And while Father Time is tapping on LeBron's shoulder these last 2-3 seasons the dude is transcendent when he's healthy and on.

emunney · Post #1379 » by **emunney** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:35 pm

Jokic is destined to be underrated forever just because he looks like Uncle Fester in a funhouse mirror.

LuessiT · Post #1380 » by **LuessiT** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:50 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Luka in the 6-10 range sounds about right as opposed to the love he gets on this site, but it's getting hard to ignore the play-style bias that plagues the mainstream media. Putting Lebron and Steph ahead of Jokic after the season he just had is insulting. But really, casual NBA people just absolutely love their "dribble-dribble-crossover, step-back jumper" guys and it's painfully obvious based on how much of a bump they give some of these dudes (KD, Curry, Tatum, Beal).

I would take Jokic and Kawhi over Luka and Steph in a heartbeat. And I definitely respect the latter two. And while Father Time is tapping on LeBron's shoulder these last 2-3 seasons the dude is transcendent when he's healthy and on.

I wouldn't. I think Jokic is kinda hard to build around. He clogs the paint and doesn't protect the rim. He's obviously insanely good, but if you're building a championship team and assuming you have other talented players I like Steph best out of those due to his fit with literally any other talent. If we're talking who would lift a team of bums to the best record, I'd probably choose Jokic. Call me crazy but I don't think LeBron will belong in the top 5 when all is said and done.