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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#61 » by moocow007 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:22 pm

seren wrote:Reads to me like Noel can’t prove anything. It also reads to me is talent agents (just like real estate agents) are useless bunch.


Yep, like I said, it's going to be almost impossible for Noel to prove anything. No one that can back Noel concretely is going to do so. Rich Paul and Klutch Sports is one of the most powerful agencies in pro sports. Why would any front office executives (and the owners who pay their salaries) get involved on Noel's behalf to potentially harm their future dealings with Paul and his players? Out of the goodness of their own hearts and to do what's right? These guys became billionaires by not doing things out of the goodness of their own hearts and likely doing plenty of what's not right. What opposing agents (and agencies) will say is almost useless cause there would be clearly reasons for those agents and agencies to lie about this and try to harm Paul. Would be like believing one drug kingpin about what his rival is doing or not doing OR believing what one master liar says about another master liar. Who else is there to help Noel prove his case? This is not about supporting your guy (Noel as a Knick) nor about supporting Paul (I absolutely do not), it's about common sense.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#63 » by knickabocker88 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:02 am

This is happening with Leon's blessing / backing
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Post#64 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Sep 2, 2021 2:27 pm

Some footage of what Noel has been working on
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#65 » by moocow007 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:39 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Some footage of what Noel has been working on


Noel should be spending most his free time using these:

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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#66 » by stuporman » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:48 pm

Noel needs to be spending hours a day on a jugs machine catching balls.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#67 » by KnixtapeH20 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:57 pm

stuporman wrote:Noel needs to be spending hours a day on a jugs machine catching balls.

And go 4 times a day to an all u can eat buffet, then hit a diner after midnight.

Then learn how to **** rebound
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#68 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:11 am

UPDATE:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/09/atlantic-notes-celtics-lineup-clark-noel-sixers.html

Knicks center Nerlens Noel has filed an amended complaint against super-agent Rich Paul, which includes an October 2017 letter from the legal counsel for Noel’s prior agent, Happy Walters, stating that the decision to reject the Mavericks’ $70MM offer “placed Noel at serious professional and financial risk,” Darren Heitner of SportsAgentBlog tweets. Noel sued Paul and Klutch Sports last month, claiming that he fired Walters in favor of Paul because Paul told him he could get a max contract. Paul also allegedly told Noel to turn down Dallas’ extension offer.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#69 » by HighRyzer83 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:48 am

You ever noticed how all these YouTube analysts who give financial advice always pre-qualify their videos by stating this is not financial advice, because I'm not a licensed financial advisor... Don't sue me.

They do that because they can be sued for acting as an agent of that field on behalf of their "client", if their client or whoever is receiving their advise suffers a considerable loss from taking their advise. Just like a cop or a credentialed agent and his department for a causing a loss due to negligence or recklessness or not operating in good faith.

So if Rich Paul, a credentialed agent, demonstrated gross incompetence while operating in his agent capacity, then he is far different than some average douche (that lebron empowered for obvious reasons) just talking crap about money and contracts, and could be held liable. Correct me if I'm wrong there wingo.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#70 » by F N 11 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:05 pm

people hire agents to do and explain stuff they have no idea about. Good luck Noel, you are now a difference maker on a playoff team. i did not forget your clutch blocks and you sacrificing your body.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#71 » by moocow007 » Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:01 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:UPDATE:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/09/atlantic-notes-celtics-lineup-clark-noel-sixers.html

Knicks center Nerlens Noel has filed an amended complaint against super-agent Rich Paul, which includes an October 2017 letter from the legal counsel for Noel’s prior agent, Happy Walters, stating that the decision to reject the Mavericks’ $70MM offer “placed Noel at serious professional and financial risk,” Darren Heitner of SportsAgentBlog tweets. Noel sued Paul and Klutch Sports last month, claiming that he fired Walters in favor of Paul because Paul told him he could get a max contract. Paul also allegedly told Noel to turn down Dallas’ extension offer.


Again, I would not doubt that Rich Paul is a disorganized shill of an agent and that he's only "high profile" cause he managed to get Lebron under his umbrella. Nor do I doubt that Paul likely had little infrastructure at Klutch sports to manage all the so-so hanger own players that jumped to them cause they though "hey anyone representing Lebron can represent me". Problem is, you can't sue someone for not being good at his job or based on opinion. And again, the ultimate onus is on the player to perform his due diligence which does not appear Noel did until after the fact.

So then there's "gross negligence". Yes theoretically if he can approve that Paul intentionally "screwed" Noel or that his company was just so so incompetent then yeah he may have a leg to stand on. But, it's real hard to prove. And Paul will have his current "happy clients" to say he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

That letter from Happy Walters legal counsel stating that the decision to reject the Mavs $70mm offer "placed Noel at serious professional and financial risk"? It's an opinion. An opinion coming from a party that would have their own personal interest to make this statement regardless of whether it's factual or not. Happy Walters lost Noel (and the potential of millions if commission) to Paul. So him saying that Paul is a fraud really doesn't have as much bite. Nor is there proof that Noel wasn't the one that rejected it and that it was all Paul's idea. If Noel can show that he was mentally handicapped or otherwise incapacitated at that time then maybe (being serious here) but one would assume that Noel was of "sound mind". At which point, the honest argument is that Noel ultimately is the one that decided to turn it down as that contract offer was made to him not Rich Paul.

He can try to use this but I don't see it as concrete proof by any means. Regardless of whether it came from Happy's "legal counsel" or not.

An example of the type of evidence that would give Noel a leg to stand on? Recorded (good luck with getting that admitted as evidence) or written correspondence showing that there was a binding contract offer (pending signature from Noel) that Rich Paul actually received and then absolutely did not pass to Noel (how do you prove that Paul didn't show it to Noel) or that Noel wasnt the one that said "no thanks" or the one that didn't get back to Paul? Because Noel said so now (how come he didn't say so back then?) or some other players had similar bad experiences? And how about the players that had great experiences? Even the best companies in the world will have customers that feel that they are the worst company. That's the types of things that Rich Paul's side will likely argue. You cannot win a case based on opinion...especially if your new evidence is the opinion of someone that would have personal interest in the defendant being found liable.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#72 » by Zenzibar » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:32 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Some footage of what Noel has been working on



Nice post.

Nerlins putting in that work and we can use the additional 2pts from him.. :)
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#73 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Some footage of what Noel has been working on



Nice post.

Nerlins putting in that work and we can use the additional 2pts from him.. :)


Probably will be better than Mitch, who got all heavy from lifting weights and eating deep fried possum assh*les
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#74 » by Zenzibar » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:47 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Some footage of what Noel has been working on



Nice post.

Nerlins putting in that work and we can use the additional 2pts from him.. :)


Probably will be better than Mitch, who got all heavy from lifting weights and eating deep fried possum assh*les


Oh Sht! :lol:

That must be a thing down south.
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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#75 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:07 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:

Nice post.

Nerlins putting in that work and we can use the additional 2pts from him.. :)


Probably will be better than Mitch, who got all heavy from lifting weights and eating deep fried possum assh*les


Oh Sht! :lol:

That must be a thing down south.


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Re: Nerlens Noel suing Rich Paul 

Post#76 » by Zenzibar » Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:17 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Probably will be better than Mitch, who got all heavy from lifting weights and eating deep fried possum assh*les


Oh Sht! :lol:

That must be a thing down south.


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