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Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#401 » by stormi » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:05 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Simmons + Milton for Edwards + Prince + Layman (waived)


Maxey/Curry/Springer
Edwards/Korkmaz/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Prince
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey


Sexy-ass lineup. If Edwards is too far away, he’s shipped off later for one of Beal, Lillard, or X disgruntled superstar.


Huge return if Morey pulls it off. I like Prince too as a bomber.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#402 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:06 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#403 » by Sixerscan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:07 pm

stormi wrote:Ben wasn't hard to find or in hiding. He worked out with Chris Johnson all summer. He was at dozens of pro-runs littered with pro's. The original narrative was that Ben wasn't talking to anyone all until Maxey had an interview slip-up at summer league that disputed it lmaoooo.

What Ben is doing is totally fine. They don't care about him and want him gone, and the fans do as well. Why are people shocked he isn't going to get on knees now. The bridge has been burned.


I'm fine with him not showing up, but the idea that a team trying to trade you means you can just quit on the team is pretty ridiculous. I can point to tons of examples here, notably Iverson almost getting traded to the Pistons before 01.

Likewise it's not the rest of the team's job to take time out of their summer to organize a group intervention so one of their colleagues shows up to their job. This offer was a just good will gesture by them.

But hey, it's all about Ben. Wonder if he's figured out the free throw thing or if teams are gonna hack him off the court.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#404 » by GuideDog » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm

At this point I'd be happy to trade Ben to the Clippers for Reggie Jackson and Terence Mann. Add in someone like Marcus Morris to make salaries work. We can throw in Niang or Shake if Clippers want and just call it a day.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#405 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm

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FireMorey wrote:
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What does this even mean

You have like 15 players and your draft picks, you know what Morey wants, this isn’t complicated or hard work. Either you want him or you don’t.


“Work his ass off”

Maybe he’ll compile a highlight of Malik Beasley and Josh Okogie on 12K video with Dolby Digital Surround
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#406 » by Mik317 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:15 pm

Guys please stop falling for the same okey doke every new klutzy drop

Ben is not going to show up and this is just Klutch trying to keep the pressure up. I am sure another damage control from I’m the FO will drop soon too
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#407 » by Kobblehead » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:15 pm

stormi wrote:Ben wasn't hard to find or in hiding..

He 100% was emotionally and communicatively hiding.

Why do you find it significant that people knew where he was based on his social media? That seems like a irrelevant point that is missing the issue entirely.

What do you think would happened if a front office member tracked him down and flew out on a private jet to attempt to confront him in person? Simmons would likely leave the premises without saying a word.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#408 » by stormi » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:18 pm

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stormi wrote:Ben wasn't hard to find or in hiding. He worked out with Chris Johnson all summer. He was at dozens of pro-runs littered with pro's. The original narrative was that Ben wasn't talking to anyone all until Maxey had an interview slip-up at summer league that disputed it lmaoooo.

What Ben is doing is totally fine. They don't care about him and want him gone, and the fans do as well. Why are people shocked he isn't going to get on knees now. The bridge has been burned.


I'm fine with him not showing up, but the idea that a team trying to trade you means you can just quit on the team is pretty ridiculous. I can point to tons of examples here, notably Iverson almost getting traded to the Pistons before 01.

Likewise it's not the rest of the team's job to take time out of their summer to organize a group intervention so one of their colleagues shows up to their job.

But hey, it's all about Ben. Wonder if he's figured out the free throw thing or if teams are gonna hack him off the court.


If Ben felt alienated and the team made no attempts to rectify the situation, why would he feel comfortable returning to an environment where he clearly is not wanted?

It's become common belief that Ben simply just doesn't care about basketball or the Philadelphia 76ers. Revisit his interview after Game 7. He is obviously very upset and takes accountability multiple times. He admits he played bad, he admits he wasn't good enough and he says it over and over again.

It's not like Ben just woke up one day and said he was done with this franchise, he says he wants to come back. And then comments from his teammate(s) and coach come out and the finger is pointed directly at him. Whether it's deserved or not is for another discussion; but from that point, if they valued him like they're pretending they do now they should have made him feel like it. The human factor isn't considered enough. It's fine to be done with Ben. Doc and Embiid are allowed to think he simply isn't good enough and not the guy they need to be world champions, but it's cowardly to spin around and pretend like everything is cool because the burden you helped create hasn't gone away as quickly as you'd have liked.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#409 » by Lou_23 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:26 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#410 » by Negrodamus » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:28 pm

If Anthony Edwards is traded for Ben Simmons, the T'Wolves are making a grave mistake, lol.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#411 » by jscott » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:29 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If Anthony Edwards is traded for Ben Simmons, the T'Wolves are making a grave mistake, lol.

Wolves aren’t doing that.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#412 » by Negrodamus » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:31 pm

jscott wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If Anthony Edwards is traded for Ben Simmons, the T'Wolves are making a grave mistake, lol.

Wolves aren’t doing that.


Hey man, Gupta has the "green light" to get him by any means necessary.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#413 » by Mik317 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:32 pm

This does not make Ben come off as the victim like Klutch thinks it does tho.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#414 » by RedSalsa » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:33 pm

Mik317 wrote:Guys please stop falling for the same okey doke every new klutzy drop

Ben is not going to show up and this is just Klutch trying to keep the pressure up. I am sure another damage control from I’m the FO will drop soon too


Yep! I’m sure Clutch or however you spell it told him this but it was a lie to make it look like Ben is the victim here. Easy to see though.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#415 » by RedSalsa » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:35 pm

Mik317 wrote:This does not make Ben come off as the victim like Klutch thinks it does tho.


Nope as a matter fact does the exact opposite it makes them look desperate.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#416 » by jscott » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:35 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
jscott wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If Anthony Edwards is traded for Ben Simmons, the T'Wolves are making a grave mistake, lol.

Wolves aren’t doing that.


Hey man, Gupta has the "green light" to get him by any means necessary.

I’m sure Rosas had the “green light” too. Doesn’t mean you trade a dollar for 50 cents though.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#417 » by Sixerscan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:36 pm

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stormi wrote:Ben wasn't hard to find or in hiding. He worked out with Chris Johnson all summer. He was at dozens of pro-runs littered with pro's. The original narrative was that Ben wasn't talking to anyone all until Maxey had an interview slip-up at summer league that disputed it lmaoooo.

What Ben is doing is totally fine. They don't care about him and want him gone, and the fans do as well. Why are people shocked he isn't going to get on knees now. The bridge has been burned.


I'm fine with him not showing up, but the idea that a team trying to trade you means you can just quit on the team is pretty ridiculous. I can point to tons of examples here, notably Iverson almost getting traded to the Pistons before 01.

Likewise it's not the rest of the team's job to take time out of their summer to organize a group intervention so one of their colleagues shows up to their job.

But hey, it's all about Ben. Wonder if he's figured out the free throw thing or if teams are gonna hack him off the court.


If Ben felt alienated and the team made no attempts to rectify the situation, why would he feel comfortable returning to an environment where he clearly is not wanted?

It's become common belief that Ben simply just doesn't care about basketball or the Philadelphia 76ers. Revisit his interview after Game 7. He is obviously very upset and takes accountability multiple times. He admits he played bad, he admits he wasn't good enough and he says it over and over again.

It's not like Ben just woke up one day and said he was done with this franchise, he says he wants to come back. And then comments from his teammate(s) and coach come out and the finger is pointed directly at him. Whether it's deserved or undeserved is another discussion, but from that point, if they valued him like they're pretending they do now they should have made him feel like it. The human factor isn't considered enough. It's fine to be done with Ben. Doc and Embiid are allowed to think he simply isn't good enough and not the guy they need to be world champions, but it's cowardly to spin around and pretend like nothing happened because the burden you helped create hasn't just gone away as quickly as you'd hoped.


What Doc and especially Embiid said was absolutely fine and he's acting like it was offensive because it's easier to blame other people rather than look in the mirror and actually admit it was your fault that you didn't practice your free throws enough and suffered a complete loss of confidence in the middle of a playoffs wasting months of hard work by the rest of your team and coaches.

It's not his teammates' or coaches' job to prove to him they love him or whatever. This isn't summer camp, it's the pros, you get the respect you earn. You stop playing offense in the middle of the playoffs and people aren't going to act like you are the best player in the world. If he requires that level of respect to show up at camp then he should play better.

And btw, even though Embiid did nothing wrong, he still tried to reach out to him earlier in the summer to clear the air, because unlike Ben he's actually emotionally mature and understands that other people don't exist to support you. And Ben apparently refused to speak with him or didn't call him back or whatever. Embiid made an effort but he's not gonna stand outside Ben's house with a boombox because Ben's bubble burst a little bit.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#418 » by Sixerscan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:37 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
jscott wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If Anthony Edwards is traded for Ben Simmons, the T'Wolves are making a grave mistake, lol.

Wolves aren’t doing that.


Hey man, Gupta has the "green light" to get him by any means necessary.

I think he's going to kidnap Franklin the Dog
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#419 » by mjkvol » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:38 pm

stormi wrote:What Ben is doing is totally reasonable. They don't care about him and want him gone, and the fans do as well. Why are people shocked he isn't going to get on knees now. The bridge has been burned.


You can't be serious. The fact that he has four years remaining on a max contract is just pushed aside because his feelings are hurt? It isn't a matter of him 'getting on his knees', it's understanding the obligation and responsibility that signing a contract entails, and that means to get your ass to Philly and meet with people to work this thing out.

Even viewed from a selfish standpoint, if you want to be traded, how on earth is not reporting or speaking to anyone in the organization going to possibly help your cause? Maybe by reporting and taking the high road the organization works harder to get you to a more desired location.

There is no angle of looking at this where it is a positive for Simmons to take the bizarre, ridiculous stance he is taking. What he is succeeding in doing is making himself a pariah, not only to the Sixers and their fan base, but to any fan base around the league. If I'm a Minnesota, Cleveland, or Sacramento fan I'm thinking "no way in hell do I want this ingrate on my team, ever". What guarantee do they have that the exact same thing won't happen to them a year or two down the road?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#420 » by Negrodamus » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:39 pm

jscott wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
jscott wrote:Wolves aren’t doing that.


Hey man, Gupta has the "green light" to get him by any means necessary.

I’m sure Rosas had the “green light” too. Doesn’t mean you trade a dollar for 50 cents though.


Right, but I thought trading a dollar for 50 cents was a time honored tradition of the T'Wolves.

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