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[Blazinaway]

POR trades CJ+Nurkic+POR22FRP
POR gets Simmons+Dragic
Lillard, Powell, Simmons, Covington, Nance -- Dragic, Simons, Snell, Little, Zeller

PHI trades Simmons+Milton
PHI gets CJ+Boucher+POR22FRP
CJ, Maxey, Green, Harris, Embiid -- Curry, Thybulle, Korkmaz, Boucher, Drummond

TOR trades Dragic+Boucher
TOR gets Nurkic+Milton
FVV, Trent, OG, Siakam, Nurkic -- Flynn, Milton, Barnes, Achiuwa, Birch

Can't see Blazers trading Nurk with No C coming back, makes little sense. CJ and Roco as oft mentioned works, don't know about any firsts beyond that

[rzzzzz]

CJ and Roco as oft mentioned works

That’s got to be one of the top fall back deals Morey keeps in mind, if there’s no movement from underperforming clubs through the first part of the season.

[Wolveswin]

Beasley isnt radioactive, lol, cmon now. His value is lowered cause of his history, but it's not like he did something that automatically turns people off and make them hate him like child beating, rape or dog fighting. He was an idiot and an azzhole who threatened people on his property with a gun, but you can come back from that. You cant come back from the other chit i posted. A lot of guys in the league have had some level of trouble with the law (a lot much worse than him) and moved on from it.

Radioactive is the wrong word to use here. Im pretty sure Minny paid him after this happened as well, so they clearly didnt think he was radioactive.

JRoy I am sure doesn’t even know what Beasley did. Or still thinks the fake news of it being a baby in the car is what he holds as the truth.

Funny thing is, in many states the weapon charge wouldn’t even had been a thing, the amount of marijuana found was the only crime. But yet Beasley to JRoy is “radioactive.”

Nothing to see here…

He has no value for other teams after that, so if you aren't throwing him in as pure salary match, you are better of keeping him.

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Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

[Ballerhogger]

CJ and Roco as oft mentioned works

That’s got to be one of the top fall back deals Morey keeps in mind, if there’s no movement from underperforming clubs through the first part of the season.

If the blazers are clicking they won’t move CJ

[Ballerhogger]

If morey wants CJ type return it has to be soon . Training camp on Monday

[Slim Tubby]

I'd like to see D'Lo + Beasley + 1st for Simmons + filler. Minnesota gets rid of their worst defenders and puts together an ideal pairing in Towns-KAT. Philly ... well I don't love it for them to be honest, but they at least get some scoring and playmaking.

That might end up being the deal but I wouldn’t do it personally. That’s too much outside shooting going out for a team starved for shooters. Value wise, it’s about what I expect in return for Simmons who I’d like to see on the Wolves. KAT and Ant are the only untouchables but man…I’d really like to hang on to McDaniels.


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This surely won't be close to tge deal, cause Russell is a horrible player. He isnt worth Harris, let alone Simmons. I bet analytics guy like Morey would never take him in ANY deal. He is agarbage scorer for bad teams, nothing more. Adding to that just criminal and one pick won't be enough even if Simmons misses entire year.

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I’m very happy you have an opinion but I’ll stick with mine. Thanks.


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[cool93]

JRoy I am sure doesn’t even know what Beasley did. Or still thinks the fake news of it being a baby in the car is what he holds as the truth.

Funny thing is, in many states the weapon charge wouldn’t even had been a thing, the amount of marijuana found was the only crime. But yet Beasley to JRoy is “radioactive.”

Nothing to see here…

He has no value for other teams after that, so if you aren't throwing him in as pure salary match, you are better of keeping him.

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Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

Simmons value is not even close to Lillard, probably even with all picks and youth Philly has, lol.


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[jeeph]

Sixers out: Simmons
Sixers in: Beal - 2023 1st round pick swap option with Cavs

Sixers get a win-now star player that fits with Embiid and a chance at a good pick if the Cavs don't develop quickly. I think Beal fits better than Love/Sexton for their immediate goals and they can package the pick swap with another asset if they wish for something else.

Wizards out: Beal
Wizards in: Love - Sexton - Cavs 2022 1st lightly protected

With Beal not resigning, they start their rebuild now with Sexton and a lightly protected 1st to add to theirs speeding up their turnaround by at least a year. Love for 2 years is not a negative because their timeline is now past that length.

Cavs out: Love - Sexton - 2022 1st - 2023 pickswap
Cavs in: Simmons

Cavs go for a quicker turnaround into a playoff team with a future and pay the price for a dime with 3 nickels. Gambling that a core of Garland, Okoro, Simmons, Mobley, and Allen/Markkanen is the starting 5 of the future so the picks given up are lessened in importance, if nothing else, that looks to be a hell of a defense.

[BoogieTime]

JRoy I am sure doesn’t even know what Beasley did. Or still thinks the fake news of it being a baby in the car is what he holds as the truth.

Funny thing is, in many states the weapon charge wouldn’t even had been a thing, the amount of marijuana found was the only crime. But yet Beasley to JRoy is “radioactive.”

Nothing to see here…

He has no value for other teams after that, so if you aren't throwing him in as pure salary match, you are better of keeping him.

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Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

[Wolveswin]

He has no value for other teams after that, so if you aren't throwing him in as pure salary match, you are better of keeping him.

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Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

[BoogieTime]

Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

I agree that the Sixers are not going to get equal value at this juncture

[Sportfan73]

Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

Beasley and McCollum are no where near equal value. Maybe Dlo and McCollum

[shrink]

Without weighing in on the trade value of Beasley and McCollum, I was curious, so here are the stats.

https://stathead.com/tiny/VJXjC

Both great shooters, both poor defenders. McCollum’s a better passer and has a better handle. He also had Dame setting him up. Beasley has the PR stain of last year’s arrests, but he’s five years younger and costs half as much.

*note, I don’t like using smaller samples, but I wanted to look at Beasley in a starter role, to compare better with McCollum. I think that’s probably fair - Beasley put up similar numbers the year before when he came to MIN and started then too.

[DroseReturnChi]

Got it. Just so I am all straightened out. Beasley no value. Simmons value is Dame or Beal.

So glad TNT straightened me out today.

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

value is relative and simmons value was dame or beal. russell, cj is fall back plan in case they dont get them and beasley has no value.

[DroseReturnChi]

CJ and Roco as oft mentioned works

That’s got to be one of the top fall back deals Morey keeps in mind, if there’s no movement from underperforming clubs through the first part of the season.

If the blazers are clicking they won’t move CJ

and they were clicking early with cj how did that turn out? rather have russell although hes trash bc the wolves can give up 3 unprotected picks. pdx has 0 assets.

[SNPA]

Odds makers put Houston as second favorites. So…

Houston gets - Simmons/Tristan
Kings gets - Wood/Gordon
Philly gets - KPJ/Buddy/Martin Jr/Kings 22 (top 10)/Houston 23

Everyone wins.

[Wolveswin]

As far as I'm concerned, it is.

Dame is 31, and looked aged in the Olympics this year and offseason photos. At 31, time becomes a factor and its a Russian roulette when the game starts to decline and how much. Not sure I wouldnt rather have the younger player

Beal IMO is a scorer with questionable team impact. Certainly not the impact I think of with Simmons

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

Beasley and McCollum are no where near equal value. Maybe Dlo and McCollum

I value Beasley more than both those players. Check his stats and compare to both. Then add in fact he is 1/2 the price as those two — so Beasley + Prince or Beverley > Russell or McCollum. For sure.

[Sportfan73]

That is all good and nice. But it goes without saying, or should, but feels needed…Value has many variables, and Simmons value just isn’t that of Dame or Beal. Not now. Maybe if they wait, and either one of those players demands out and it gets ugly (see Simmons scenario). Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

Beasley and McCollum are no where near equal value. Maybe Dlo and McCollum

I value Beasley more than both those players. Check his stats and compare to both. Then add in fact he is 1/2 the price as those two — so Beasley + Prince or Beverley > Russell or McCollum. For sure.

You’re lucky if he’s neutral with the legal stuff, skill set and price I agree with you but there’s to much baggage there for substantial value

[Saul Goodman]

Okay i think this is fair for everyone.



To Sacramento:
Ben Simmons
DJ Augustine




To Cleveland:
Tyrese Maxey
2022 top 5 protected Sac 1st
2024 Top 5 protected sac 1st



To Houston
Davion Mitchell
Marvin Bagley
Jaden Springer



To Philly
Buddy Hield
Christian Wood
Collin Sexton





Sacramento gets their guy without moving their two guards. Fox/Hali/Simmons has a tonne of potential in that break neck offence


The Rockets get a potentially perfect fit at guard with Jalen Green. Green Mitchell and a top 5 pick is a big time future core.


The Cavs cash out on Sexton without having to extend him.

Philly gets 3 high end starters. Sexton could have a big breakout year playing off Embiid. Wood and Hield provide max spacing.

Sexton/Hield/Harris/Wood/Embiid. with Curry/Thybulle/Milton/Green/Drummond off the bench is still pretty lethal

[cool93]

Until then, Beasley or McCollum level player is what 76ers will get.

Wait, what? Those are completely different players in terms of value and skill. CJ is A LOT better than Beasley and a lot more valuable. And I am not even that high on McCollum, lol