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Re: Jonathan Isaac and Markelle Fultz not fully ready for camp 

Post#201 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:59 pm

Forgive me, I am editing this very long post. :)

The point of a vaccine is to give you an attenuated (weakened) version of an antigen’s (a toxin, bacteria’s or virus’) spike protein (the part of the antigen that makes you sick) to activate your adaptive immune system. This helps to fight and produce antibodies that will protect you from the ill side effects of the antigens present and future. The hope is that you will have lasting immunity meaning that you won’t get dreadfully sick the next time your body see this virus. Sometimes you do need a booster because our immune system get weaker as we get older or we have ton of health issues that overwhelms the system.

Your body has a built in memory cells from both T cells and B cells. It takes your body about 7 days to produce these cells, and you’ll generally start feeling better around this time. These cells are so incredibly specific in how it fights each antigen.

The vaccine mirrors how our body naturally fight an antigen, however, because it is a weaken version the goal is that your body will fight it without getting you dreadfully sick and produce the antibodies needed. As far as researchers have found, the antibodies are the same whether you got it through natural immunity or the vaccine.

I say all that to say this, although we don’t know everything about COVID-make no mistake it is a real and deadly virus, it is still a virus and our body treat it the same way it treats all other antigens. Some of us were unfortunate to catch this virus before a vaccine. For those of us who have survived this virus, our body created antibodies which are the same antibodies as those who are vaccinated. How long does immunity last for Covid, vaxxed or naturally acquired? Scientist are not yet sure. The logic “If the vaccine gives me the same antibodies as I already have due to natural immunity, why would I need the vaccine” is a valid one to have and need to be researched on if there is vaccine hesitancy.

For most places, an antibody test is just as good as a vaccine passport.

So, as you guys speak about Isaac, however faulty you find his reasoning, realize that he is not putting other people’s health at risk any more than a vaccinated person. Please know that you can still get COVID whether your vaccinated or natural immunity but with the antibodies your risk of severe sickness is very low.

***Oh, please do not use the logic of “I am just going to catch Covid to get the antibodies so that I won’t get the vaccine. That is playing with your life, and others, because you or others who caught it from you, can die from Covid.*** Be safe everyone and here’s to hoping for a great season.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac and Markelle Fultz not fully ready for camp 

Post#202 » by j-ragg » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:05 pm

orlando1214 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:There is also political side of all this as anti vax people are now painted as "far right lunatics" because they don't trust science, but i can remember very clearly how far left wing refused laws of science in any gender debates prior 2019 and whole covid thing but i don't want to get into all that mess right now.


You did not just compare the vaccine debate to gender identity issues? Really? What a disgusting and transphobic statement to make and the fact that the Mods just let this slide is depressing. I hold my tongue and stick to lurking a lot with this board, especially with the terrible stuff you say because there's no point in arguing with someone like you, but this was just too much. I'm so sick of the Mods just letting the hurtful, hateful, and pessimistic things you say slide, and so is the fact that any time someone brings up your behavior, it just gets brushed aside.

Why is it so hard for people just to be kind to one another? Getting the vaccine should not be a big deal, it shouldnt be something that creates arguments and becomes political just because some fat orange idiot didn't get reelected. We've all gotten vaccines before, vaccines that have stopped outbreaks of many diseases and saved our lives. Now we have a proven safe vaccine that can stop this current outbreak that has killed millions all over the world and caused serious health issues to a lot of people that survived it, so why can't people just stop being so selfish and get it already? I don't care if you had covid and had minor side effects and felt fine after a few days, a lot of people are not that fortunate. If you can help prevent even one other person from dying or getting covid, why won't you? Not doing it doesn't make you smart, you're not owning the liberals, you're being a selfish prick that needs to grow up and stop thinking of just yourself for one moment. The same goes for Isaac, grow up man!

Lastly Pepe, I truly hope one day you stop acting like this. I hope one day soon you stop being full of hate. I know you're a troll and you're probably loving the attention you're getting, but it's just sad to watch. Mods, I don't care if I get banned for this, but do better. Stop allowing people to spread false information and a false narratives.You're not allowing for good conversation, you're part of the problem why this garbage anti-vax stuff is spreading around. Close this thread, it's not helping anybody and is only giving trolls and far-right people a platform to spread their false narrative. This isn't a both sides issue, it's scientific facts versus selfish bulls%!#. Either way, I'm out. I'm done with this board. Go Magic!

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