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Post#241 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:03 am

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Post#242 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:26 am

a prayer for an exciting finish? That's all I ask for in a primetime game.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#243 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:52 am

My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.
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Post#244 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:54 am

Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

I could have told you that a couple weeks ago.
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Post#245 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:57 am

Micah Prescott wrote:Ugh why do I have a feeling that missed extra point is going to haunt Dallas

You worry too much, :wink:
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Post#246 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:07 am

Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

My takeaway is why show NFC east games?
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#247 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:08 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Ugh why do I have a feeling that missed extra point is going to haunt Dallas

You worry too much, :wink:

Lol yeah this is murder Dallas should take the NFCE pretty easily
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#248 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:17 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

I could have told you that a couple weeks ago.


How’d you like the DT play last night, BJJ?

I liked it. I liked it very much.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#249 » by Mr B » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:28 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

I could have told you that a couple weeks ago.


How’d you like the DT play last night, BJJ?

I liked it. I liked it very much.

The Cowboys should be getting Gallimore back this week too I believe.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#250 » by Mr B » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:29 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

My takeaway is why show NFC east games?

Because even though most of the division is playing like garbage they still draw huge ratings.
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Post#251 » by azcatz11 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:18 pm

I'm still all in on the Eagles. Never losing faith in Hurts - future MVP
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Post#252 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:37 pm

azcatz11 wrote:I'm still all in on the Eagles. Never losing faith in Hurts - future MVP


You only say that because he's on your fantasy team. :lol:
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Post#253 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm

I’m never going to be big fans of QBs like Hurts or Fields. They’re both stuck in no mans land with their skill set. In college they look great because they’re faster than the majority of defenders and they get to throw too wide open guys all day long.

And while they’re both fast, they’re not fast enough to be elite scramblers in the NFL because the speed is just drastically more. And their throwing ability just isn’t good enough to rely on in the NFL.

If you’re going to be a scrambling QB in the NFL, you have to be an elite athlete.

I think there is a clear ideal kind of QB. Elite arm talent with enough athleticism to improvise and keep plays alive. I’m talking the

Rodgers
Mahomes
Allen
Herbert
Wilson

Kind of QB. Elite arms with the ability to scramble and get the 1st down if the play breaks down.
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Post#254 » by azcatz11 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I’m never going to be big fans of QBs like Hurts or Fields. They’re both stuck in no mans land with their skill set. In college they look great because they’re faster than the majority of defenders and they get to throw too wide open guys all day long.

And while they’re both fast, they’re not fast enough to be elite scramblers in the NFL because the speed is just drastically more. And their throwing ability just isn’t good enough to rely on in the NFL.

If you’re going to be a scrambling QB in the NFL, you have to be an elite athlete.

I think there is a clear ideal kind of QB. Elite arm talent with enough athleticism to improvise and keep plays alive. I’m talking the

Rodgers
Mahomes
Allen
Herbert
Wilson

Kind of QB. Elite arms with the ability to scramble and get the 1st down if the play breaks down.


Do you group Murray in with Fields + Hurts?
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Post#255 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:45 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I’m never going to be big fans of QBs like Hurts or Fields. They’re both stuck in no mans land with their skill set. In college they look great because they’re faster than the majority of defenders and they get to throw too wide open guys all day long.

And while they’re both fast, they’re not fast enough to be elite scramblers in the NFL because the speed is just drastically more. And their throwing ability just isn’t good enough to rely on in the NFL.

If you’re going to be a scrambling QB in the NFL, you have to be an elite athlete.

I think there is a clear ideal kind of QB. Elite arm talent with enough athleticism to improvise and keep plays alive. I’m talking the

Rodgers
Mahomes
Allen
Herbert
Wilson

Kind of QB. Elite arms with the ability to scramble and get the 1st down if the play breaks down.


Do you group Murray in with Fields + Hurts?


No. Murray can be tossed in that list above or with Lamar when it comes to QBs with elite athleticism.

To me the most important skill a QB can have is to pick apart a defense from the pocket. Then I want them to have the ability to improvise and extend the play or use their legs to pickup the 1st down. I don’t have Murray’s pure throwing ability on the same tier as those guys above, but he’s still a damn good thrower of the football. His elite athleticism makes up for any gap.

I don’t think Fields or Hurts have the arm talent to ever be a QB that can pick apart a defense from the pocket. And I don’t think either one have that Lamar/Murray level of athleticism where they can consistently breakdown a defense with their legs. Lamar has top tier speed where he’s out running DBs, Murray is fast (not Lamar fast) and his shiftiness is crazy good.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#256 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:03 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:My takeaway from this game is that the Eagles are not very good.

I could have told you that a couple weeks ago.


How’d you like the DT play last night, BJJ?

I liked it. I liked it very much.

Defense should get even better when Lawrence and the others get back. Did not at all like McCarthy's game management again this week. He really screwed up the last coupe minutes by NOT using his time outs. I wonder what he actually is managing at times.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#257 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:07 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Ugh why do I have a feeling that missed extra point is going to haunt Dallas

You worry too much, :wink:

Lol yeah this is murder Dallas should take the NFCE pretty easily

Don't say that, :wink: Its understandable how nervous we all get after having to deal with Jerry the GM since 2002. :nod: :nod:
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#258 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:10 pm

Fields will be fine. He just needs a better supporting cast around him & more experience. The offensive line is garbage. They don't have a ton of playmakers outside of Allen Robinson. Nagy & that coaching staff have done a poor job to say the least. The kid has been put in a bad spot with little to no help.

Hurts is in a similar situation. The Eagles are a bad football team.
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Post#259 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:22 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Fields will be fine. He just needs a better supporting cast around him & more experience. The offensive line is garbage. They don't have a ton of playmakers outside of Allen Robinson. Nagy & that coaching staff have done a poor job to say the least. The kid has been put in a bad spot with little to no help.

Hurts is in a similar situation. The Eagles are a bad football team.


Matt Nagy is Adam Gase reincarnated. That whole offense will take off once he's relieved of his duties. There's enough talent on that offense for them to be a middle of the pack offense. I'm a huge fan of Darnell Mooney, he's one guy that's waiting to take off once the Bears figure out their coaching situation.
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Re: Week 3 Discussion 

Post#260 » by azcatz11 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:33 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I’m never going to be big fans of QBs like Hurts or Fields. They’re both stuck in no mans land with their skill set. In college they look great because they’re faster than the majority of defenders and they get to throw too wide open guys all day long.

And while they’re both fast, they’re not fast enough to be elite scramblers in the NFL because the speed is just drastically more. And their throwing ability just isn’t good enough to rely on in the NFL.

If you’re going to be a scrambling QB in the NFL, you have to be an elite athlete.

I think there is a clear ideal kind of QB. Elite arm talent with enough athleticism to improvise and keep plays alive. I’m talking the

Rodgers
Mahomes
Allen
Herbert
Wilson

Kind of QB. Elite arms with the ability to scramble and get the 1st down if the play breaks down.


Do you group Murray in with Fields + Hurts?


No. Murray can be tossed in that list above or with Lamar when it comes to QBs with elite athleticism.

To me the most important skill a QB can have is to pick apart a defense from the pocket. Then I want them to have the ability to improvise and extend the play or use their legs to pickup the 1st down. I don’t have Murray’s pure throwing ability on the same tier as those guys above, but he’s still a damn good thrower of the football. His elite athleticism makes up for any gap.

I don’t think Fields or Hurts have the arm talent to ever be a QB that can pick apart a defense from the pocket. And I don’t think either one have that Lamar/Murray level of athleticism where they can consistently breakdown a defense with their legs. Lamar has top tier speed where he’s out running DBs, Murray is fast (not Lamar fast) and his shiftiness is crazy good.


I agree for the most part. I don't think Fields, Hurts will ever win a championship. I don't think Lamar will either though. I do think they will all put up crazy numbers at some point.
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