Ruzious wrote:Dat2U wrote:Ruzious wrote:Got it. So Kyrie Irving is a problem for Brooklyn, but Beal should be fine with Washington.
As I understand it, Kyrie will not be able to play in home games in NY, so that could be a problem.
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Ruzious wrote:Dat2U wrote:Ruzious wrote:Got it. So Kyrie Irving is a problem for Brooklyn, but Beal should be fine with Washington.
Nigel Tufnel wrote:Ruzious wrote:Dat2U wrote:
As I understand it, Kyrie will not be able to play in home games in NY, so that could be a problem.
nate33 wrote:Ruzious wrote:So, when do the Wiz start fining or withholding pay to Beal for refusing to get vaccinated? Does the NBA have a policy?
He has already had Covid. He is better protected and less of a threat to others than all the vaccinated people who haven't had Covid.
Mizerooskie wrote:nate33 wrote:Ruzious wrote:So, when do the Wiz start fining or withholding pay to Beal for refusing to get vaccinated? Does the NBA have a policy?
He has already had Covid. He is better protected and less of a threat to others than all the vaccinated people who haven't had Covid.
Not necessarily true, according to the latest data. https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccinationIf you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
nate33 wrote:Mizerooskie wrote:nate33 wrote:He has already had Covid. He is better protected and less of a threat to others than all the vaccinated people who haven't had Covid.
Not necessarily true, according to the latest data. https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccinationIf you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.
More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination
That link is complete ****. They pointed to a single study made back in 2020 with a mere 156 people. The studied only measured antibody levels in the blood, which barely even helps stop the spread. What matters are the IgA antibodies in the mucous membranes. We have data from Israel showing natural immunity is between 13 and 27 times better than vaccination. We also have the Cleveland clinic study showing thousands of workers with virtually none getting reinfected. Those are real world studies.
I don't have time to go into detail right now because I'm at work, but I will refute all this stuff tonight.
Ruzious wrote:If you're going to go into the scientific details and terminology that none of us are trained in, can you do it in the Covid thread - rather than infecting (see what I did there) basketball threads? The only reason I brought up Covid was to find out what Beal's situation with the NBA is - not a discussion of what's right or wrong and certainly not a scientifically detailed discussion.
Shanghai Kid wrote:Beal can feel how he feels, but why is he being so vocal about it?
The tweet that came out makes him seem to have taken the most aggressive public stance I've seen any athlete take.
Why not just stay quiet? Not a good look in any sense.
doclinkin wrote:Yeah he's a good interview. Solid guy.
I like that the guys showed up early in September to pick up Wes' coaching concepts.
FAH1223 wrote:doclinkin wrote:Yeah he's a good interview. Solid guy.
I like that the guys showed up early in September to pick up Wes' coaching concepts.
Dennis Scott lost some weight!
FAH1223 wrote:They've already offered Brad the 4 year $181M extension on October 1, 2021.
You best believe they will offer the 5 year $240M max offer on July 1, 2022.
nate33 wrote:FAH1223 wrote:They've already offered Brad the 4 year $181M extension on October 1, 2021.
You best believe they will offer the 5 year $240M max offer on July 1, 2022.
This is an interesting topic. How bad does Beal need to play this season for the Wizards to no longer extend a full supermax offer?
The best another team could offer is 4 years starting at $42.5M with 5% raises, which equals 4 years $183M. And I seriously doubt any half decent team can put together that kind of cap room. That would require that all other contracts on the books total just $77M. And even if a team had that kind of room, would they spend it on a 29-year-old shooting guard who's scoring efficiency just cratered under the new foul rules?
The Wizards currently have a fair amount of cap flexibility since they have Dinwiddie and Kuzma on decent deals, and Avdija, Hachimura and Gafford on rookie deals. But that's not going to last forever. Things will start getting difficult once Gafford makes $12M instead of $2M - particularly if we resign Harrell to $15M+ instead of Bryant to something more modest.
It would be best to frontload Beal's contract to the maximum extent possible. Make is so years 3 and 4 are substantially cheaper, allowing us to keep the team together.
I'd offer him a deal starting at a max salary, but decline by the maximum amount (8%) each year. So it would be: $42.5M, $40.3M, $38.2M, $36.1M, which totals $157.2M over 4 years. Give him the fifth year at $34M if he wants it.
Repeating this ad nauseum doesn't make it any less inaccurate.nate33 wrote:Ruzious wrote:So, when do the Wiz start fining or withholding pay to Beal for refusing to get vaccinated? Does the NBA have a policy?
He has already had Covid. He is better protected and less of a threat to others than all the vaccinated people who haven't had Covid.