ParticleMan wrote:andrewww wrote:exculpatory wrote:PS
Beal & Isaac & Flat Earth will get vaccinated sooner or later.
They are not going to give up the absurd amount of money they are paid to shoot a basketball.
Much to your disappointment, Isaac (incrediblly well spoken mature young man with no conspiracy theories just articulate common sense points, god bless him) and Beal don’t have draconian Nazi mandates in their home cities.
Much respect to Wiggins and Kyrie for standing up in what they believe for in a free country. Cant say the same for the judgmental mob though.
But Isaac’s response is the best at simplying why many choose not to take this jab. If you have an issue with him, it says more about those critcizing him than anything.
Isaacs might be well spoken but he is ignorant just the same. The vaccine isn't about you. The vaccine is about protecting everyone else FROM you. This is what people who choose not to get the vaccine like Isaacs don't seem to get.
If it was just you who was going to get sick and die alone in your house, I'd be 100% on the side of Isaacs and other vaccine refusers. But it's not. The unvaccinated have a much larger chance of transmitting the disease to others unknowingly, and they have a much greater chance of landing in a hospital and dying which stresses our medical system and prevents others in need from receiving care.
Your freedom does not extend to the right to hurt other people. This is Civics 101. So yes, I do judge people about this, as much as I judge drunk drivers. Same exact scenario. Your willful choice is hurting others, and that's not OK.
I respectfully disagree with the selfish angle.
My gf tested positive today with minor symptoms like on/off headaches and loss of smell. I'm obviously a super close contact but tested negative. My chance of landing in hospital was always close to zero - young thin male who eats right and exercises regularly - even when others were sick around me I almost never get sick. Now you want me to possibly **** up my immune system "for the greater good"? Nah. That doesn't help nobody except hurting myself. You can disagree all you want but that's where I stand - and I'm no right wing extremist or Trump supporter or whatever you want to argue.
There are many documented cases of young people with heart inflammation from the jab. Sorry, but the stats do not indicate young people as being susceptible from this virus - that's for old/obese/immunocompromised people.
In other words, for a person at virtually zero risk from the virus, by taking the jab for "the greater good" they are opening themselves up to higher (albeit still low) risk of an adverse side effect. Does that sound like society is the selfish one? Because that's obviously the case in such a scenario. That's the definition of hurting someone who was at zero risk because... you felt they needed to their part. That's YOU being selfish. Full stop.
Where there is risk to the individual for the jab, there must be choice. Its a fundamental human right in a free democratic society.
Also, jabbed or not..there is no conclusive evidence that supports the notion of jabbed people having a lower viral load than an unjabbed person. You can still contract and spread it jabbed or not, and there is no distinct unbiased statistical studies to counter that.
EDIT: In fact, natural immunity is > jab-induced immunit.
Taken directly from the moderator nate33 on the Wizards board:
"I'm only bringing it up because of Bradley Beal.
My point is that Beal, with natural immunity (developed just 2 months ago) is almost certainly as safe, if not safer than his vaccinated teammates. And furthermore, the best research we have suggests that he is even less likely to be an asymptomatic spreader of Covid thanks to his mucosal antibodies.
There is absolutely no scientific rationale to treat Beal differently than his vaccinated teammates. If anything, he is even less of a danger to himself and others than at least 90% of the people on the planet. If anyone can safety go maskless, it's Beal.
Now, perhaps that all changes in 10 months. Maybe natural immunity does wane. But recent natural immunity is as strong as anything else out there. (FWIW, SARS-COV-1 natural immunity has lasted 15 years.)"
Furthermore, the unjabbed arent necessarily at higher risk. If you're old/obese, you're at higher risk regardless if you take the jab or not. My partner and I didnt even have so much as a fever being exposed to the virus. Life itself isnt risk free - there is risk everyday. Based on your logic, that fat **** manager of mine at work who smokes and eats fast food everyday...yeah I dont believe for a second that being jabbed makes them at less risk of hospitalization than me. The problem is, fear sells because of constant 24/7 MSN and govt propaganda where contrarian views are censored and people cannot challenge the narrative. That's what you call a dictatorship (that also has it wrong) since its not a one size fits all approach as much as you'd like to believe that.
