Cartuse wrote:jg77 wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:
Lets be honest. Even if it was 100%, this would still be an issue. It would just become "not enough people are getting the booster shot"
They don't see that they're being gas-lighted. Biden just said the other day that we needed to be at 98% vaxxed, lol. It has gone from two weeks to slow to curve to almost everyone must be vaxxed for this to end. They also said there wouldn't be passports and now there are. They said there wouldn't be mandates and now we have those. It's just going to keep going and going.
The narratives have been changing since day 1 to adapt to whatever measures were desired to be enforced. That has fueled a lot of the skepticism, since people that have been keeping track are aware that both the experts and politicians in power have constantly contradicted themselves, and nothing indicates they will stop doing it.
-At first the WHO and American institutions were saying that masks were ineffective. Later they were indispensable 24hrs a day, if possible outdoors, in your house and at work.
-At first closing borders was absurd, and Trump was bashed by the media for wanting to ban flights from China. Then travelling became a big no-no.
-At first it was all about flattening the curve. Then it became "let's wait for the vaccines". Then it became "75% need to be vaccinated" which became "98% need to be vaccinated", which will surely become "unvaccinated people need to be segregated", as some people are already calling for, in the name of the greater good.
It's understandable that in such a chaotic situation most people seek reassurance above all. It's natural to think that those changes only reflect Governments adjusting to an unpredictable situation. And I truly believe that in many levels that might be the case.
The problem is that what they're all saying has been changing, mutating and contradicting itself from day 1, but still we take it as the most definite and safe truth as to what should be done, even though over and over this has proven to not be wise. And what's the way out of this dilemma? Well blame it on the people. Every time a measure is "ineffective" or something goes wrong, it's never government ineptitude, it's always people disobeying and being low social-credit citizens.
There are just too many things that don't add up, like the censorship and deliberate misinformation on methods alternative to the vaccine, the suppresion of any dialogue or debate,
or the fact that there was NEVER EVER one single government or media campaign to instruct people in how to stay physically and mentally healthy, which is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than any other measure when it comes to your chances of surviving the virus. Not to mention suicide rates which in some areas increased tenfold. That was never on the agenda. We were only fed neurosis-inducing stuff for over a year. But hey, blame capitalism because apparently no one wanted to buy good news.
If we want to address the real rift that we're seeing in this forum and society at large, we NEED to have a conversation about these issues, not to prove someone right or wrong, but to UNDERSTAND different points of view and maybe learn something from them.
Instead of trying to one up each other with what other people say and who's gods are more legit, let's talk about these things that we have all experienced with our own eyes and not with sanctioned numbers.
Let's find out who we are and how we think and how understanding we can be. Or at least let's discuss the importance of attempting to understand people. We obviously have the time and energy, why should we be lazy and just discard anyone that thinks different instead of trying, at least for a millisecond, to think like them instead thinking against them?
Let's discover which things we defend because that's what we actually think, and what we defend because we're just terrified of being wrong. Let's look into WHY we are terrified of being wrong or of not understanding what's going on.
Let's look for consistency in our philosophies, and if we don't have any, let's build it together through dialogue and understanding
BTW, I'm also vaccinated. And for those of you that are unvaccinated, no, the vaccine did not turn me crazy or turn me into a deranged sociopath.
