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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#641 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:32 pm

I feel for this guy. James Arena’s wife, a cancer patient who was turned away from a hospital bc it was filled with unvaccinated COVID sufferers, passed away, one month later.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/09/28/jason-arena-tiktok-wife-cancer-covid-19-hospital-eg-orig.cnn

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#642 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:41 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I feel for this guy. James Arena’s wife, a cancer patient who was turned away from a hospital bc it was filled with unvaccinated COVID sufferers, passed away, one month later.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/09/28/jason-arena-tiktok-wife-cancer-covid-19-hospital-eg-orig.cnn




And that's what antivaxxers like Kyrie, Bradley Beal etc don't get. The people who are getting screwed here aren't just the unvaccinated. The selfishness is beyond unconscionable right now.

I've not only got to give your team credit for being fully vaccinated and caring about themselves and the people around them, but also you Knick fans as well. Just based on what I've seen from you guys and gals on here, most of you understand how serious this is. A lot different from some of the horse manure that's being posted on our board right now.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#643 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:08 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I feel for this guy. James Arena’s wife, a cancer patient who was turned away from a hospital bc it was filled with unvaccinated COVID sufferers, passed away, one month later.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/09/28/jason-arena-tiktok-wife-cancer-covid-19-hospital-eg-orig.cnn




And that's what antivaxxers like Kyrie, Bradley Beal etc don't get. The people who are getting screwed here aren't just the unvaccinated. The selfishness is beyond unconscionable right now.

I've not only got to give your team credit for being fully vaccinated and caring about themselves and the people around them, but also you Knick fans as well. Just based on what I've seen from you guys and gals on here, most of you understand how serious this is. A lot different from some of the horse manure that's being posted on our board right now.

Respect.


Thanks man. I suspect at least part of what's happening is an impulse to defend one of the team's stars (Kyrie) but this goes beyond that. I just hope everyone gets there. That video's a heartbreaking watch.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#644 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:24 pm

Capn'O wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I feel for this guy. James Arena’s wife, a cancer patient who was turned away from a hospital bc it was filled with unvaccinated COVID sufferers, passed away, one month later.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/09/28/jason-arena-tiktok-wife-cancer-covid-19-hospital-eg-orig.cnn




And that's what antivaxxers like Kyrie, Bradley Beal etc don't get. The people who are getting screwed here aren't just the unvaccinated. The selfishness is beyond unconscionable right now.

I've not only got to give your team credit for being fully vaccinated and caring about themselves and the people around them, but also you Knick fans as well. Just based on what I've seen from you guys and gals on here, most of you understand how serious this is. A lot different from some of the horse manure that's being posted on our board right now.

Respect.


Thanks man. I suspect at least part of what's happening is an impulse to defend one of the team's stars (Kyrie) but this goes beyond that. I just hope everyone gets there. That video's a heartbreaking watch.


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#645 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:05 am

Rumor going around that the newly identified Delta Burks variant is spreading like wildfire through the Knicks training camp
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#646 » by 2010 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:11 am

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#647 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:29 am

2010 wrote:


The mere fact that we have to waste precious time and resources debunking this nonsense for the stupid people is mind-boggling.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#648 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:39 am

Okay. I guess you could say this is multitasking

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#649 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:48 am

WTF is this Hawaiian female news anchor smiling so much about? The fcking volcano is erupting! :rofl:

Must just be another afternoon in Hawaii. Hang 10.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#650 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:58 am

It's that byatch Sinema. Fcking sellout ho.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#651 » by Barcs » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:50 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
2010 wrote:


The mere fact that we have to waste precious time and resources debunking this nonsense for the stupid people is mind-boggling.


I'd bet the farm that most people who use the "tracking" argument have smart phones that can be tracked easily. That's the funniest part.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#652 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:47 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Rumor going around that the newly identified Delta Burks variant is spreading like wildfire through the Knicks training camp


I suspect this is a Mitch joke
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#653 » by 2010 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:08 am

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#654 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 2:43 pm

Trey Burke "declines" to get the vaccine. He sees it only as a personal decision, not one affecting others. The replies to this tweet show a lot of support for cutting Trey, with one even saying it was inevitable after they signed Frank.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#655 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:04 pm

2010 wrote:

Senator Paul is WRONG - not with his report of the study, but with his interpretation of the study.

Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated societies in the world. When the vast majority of people are vaccinated, given that the vaccine doesn't prevent 100% of illness, a higher % of people who get COVID will be vaccinated. To understand this in its simplest form, if everybody gets vaccinated, then 100% of COVID cases must be among the vaccinated.

The vaccine can:
1. reduce the spread of the disease (not eliminate the spread)
2. reduce the severity of the disease
3. reduce the likelihood of hospitalization
4. reduce by incredibly high % the likelihood of dying from COVID
5. reduce the chances of creating new, vaccine-evading, more deadly variants.

The vaccine cannot:
1. end the spread of the disease when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
2. end the creation of new, deadlier, more contagious variants when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
3. prevent 100% of deaths
4. prevent 100% of hospitalizations

As the % of the population with the vaccine increases dramatically, the virus will not have enough easy, available hosts and may die out. Otherwise, it won't.

Paul's testimony is a clear case of misinterpreting data to make it appear to support something it does not.

He also ignores the important fact that reinfection with COVID after recovering from a first case is often more deadly.
Why? Because the lasting effects of the first infection with the virus often damage organs, especially the lungs, making the patient much less able to fight it off the second time. Also, the immunity of having the disease declines after a period of time. Anybody really want a second infection?
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#656 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:24 pm

BKlutch wrote:
2010 wrote:

Senator Paul is WRONG - not with his report of the study, but with his interpretation of the study.

Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated societies in the world. When the vast majority of people are vaccinated, given that the vaccine doesn't prevent 100% of illness, a higher % of people who get COVID will be vaccinated. To understand this in its simplest form, if everybody gets vaccinated, then 100% of COVID cases must be among the vaccinated.

The vaccine can:
1. reduce the spread of the disease (not eliminate the spread)
2. reduce the severity of the disease
3. reduce the likelihood of hospitalization
4. reduce by incredibly high % the likelihood of dying from COVID
5. reduce the chances of creating new, vaccine-evading, more deadly variants.

The vaccine cannot:
1. end the spread of the disease when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
2. end the creation of new, deadlier, more contagious variants when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
3. prevent 100% of deaths
4. prevent 100% of hospitalizations

As the % of the population with the vaccine increases dramatically, the virus will not have enough easy, available hosts and may die out. Otherwise, it won't.

Paul's testimony is a clear case of misinterpreting data to make it appear to support something it does not.

He also ignores the important fact that reinfection with COVID after recovering from a first case is often more deadly.
Why? Because the lasting effects of the first infection with the virus often damage organs, especially the lungs, making the patient much less able to fight it off the second time. Also, the immunity of having the disease declines after a period of time. Anybody really want a second infection?


Yeah, it's basic math, but basic math is beyond the grasp of at least a hundred million Americans. Dbags like Rand know this and exploit their ignorance. And mainstream media too often broadcasts these lies and lets them get away with it.

RE: dangers of re-infection - One thing I think too many people either don't understand and discount is how many will have shortened life spans after a case of symptomatic covid. If you get to the point where you are laboring to breath then you will likely have lung scarring. And that will make you more susceptible to lung cancer later in life. The trajectory of covid's impact on public health is not going to be fully accounted for until another decade or two passes. And by then it will be too late. But many people simply don't think through the long-term implications of a covid infection or even care about anyone but themselves anyway.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#657 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:31 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
2010 wrote:

Senator Paul is WRONG - not with his report of the study, but with his interpretation of the study.

Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated societies in the world. When the vast majority of people are vaccinated, given that the vaccine doesn't prevent 100% of illness, a higher % of people who get COVID will be vaccinated. To understand this in its simplest form, if everybody gets vaccinated, then 100% of COVID cases must be among the vaccinated.

The vaccine can:
1. reduce the spread of the disease (not eliminate the spread)
2. reduce the severity of the disease
3. reduce the likelihood of hospitalization
4. reduce by incredibly high % the likelihood of dying from COVID
5. reduce the chances of creating new, vaccine-evading, more deadly variants.

The vaccine cannot:
1. end the spread of the disease when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
2. end the creation of new, deadlier, more contagious variants when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
3. prevent 100% of deaths
4. prevent 100% of hospitalizations

As the % of the population with the vaccine increases dramatically, the virus will not have enough easy, available hosts and may die out. Otherwise, it won't.

Paul's testimony is a clear case of misinterpreting data to make it appear to support something it does not.

He also ignores the important fact that reinfection with COVID after recovering from a first case is often more deadly.
Why? Because the lasting effects of the first infection with the virus often damage organs, especially the lungs, making the patient much less able to fight it off the second time. Also, the immunity of having the disease declines after a period of time. Anybody really want a second infection?


Yeah, it's basic math, but basic math is beyond the grasp of the majority of Americans. Dbags like Rand know this and exploit their ignorance.

RE: dangers of re-infection - One thing I think too many people either don't understand and discount is how many will have shortened life spans after a case of symptomatic covid. If you get to the point where you are laboring to breath then you will likely have lung scarring. And that will make you more susceptible to lung cancer later in life. The trajectory of covid's impact on public health is not going to be fully accounted for until another decade or two passes. And by then it will be too late. But many people simply don't think through the long-term implications of a covid infection or even care about anyone but themselves anyway.


Will those shortened lifespans be considered COVID deaths?

In some areas, we are now also seeing unnecessary morbidity and mortality in people who cannot get access to care because there are no available caregivers — they're too busy treating COVID patients.

A friend's boyfriend went to a hospital in Italy very early in the pandemic, when their hospitals were overwhelmed — as some of ours are now. He went there seeking treatment for chest pain, never got to see a doctor, and was sent home with antacids for "acid indigestion". He died of his heart attack hours later. Was his a COVID death?
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#658 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:35 pm

BKlutch wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Senator Paul is WRONG - not with his report of the study, but with his interpretation of the study.

Israel is one of the most highly vaccinated societies in the world. When the vast majority of people are vaccinated, given that the vaccine doesn't prevent 100% of illness, a higher % of people who get COVID will be vaccinated. To understand this in its simplest form, if everybody gets vaccinated, then 100% of COVID cases must be among the vaccinated.

The vaccine can:
1. reduce the spread of the disease (not eliminate the spread)
2. reduce the severity of the disease
3. reduce the likelihood of hospitalization
4. reduce by incredibly high % the likelihood of dying from COVID
5. reduce the chances of creating new, vaccine-evading, more deadly variants.

The vaccine cannot:
1. end the spread of the disease when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
2. end the creation of new, deadlier, more contagious variants when many people — including children — are unvaccinated
3. prevent 100% of deaths
4. prevent 100% of hospitalizations

As the % of the population with the vaccine increases dramatically, the virus will not have enough easy, available hosts and may die out. Otherwise, it won't.

Paul's testimony is a clear case of misinterpreting data to make it appear to support something it does not.

He also ignores the important fact that reinfection with COVID after recovering from a first case is often more deadly.
Why? Because the lasting effects of the first infection with the virus often damage organs, especially the lungs, making the patient much less able to fight it off the second time. Also, the immunity of having the disease declines after a period of time. Anybody really want a second infection?


Yeah, it's basic math, but basic math is beyond the grasp of the majority of Americans. Dbags like Rand know this and exploit their ignorance.

RE: dangers of re-infection - One thing I think too many people either don't understand and discount is how many will have shortened life spans after a case of symptomatic covid. If you get to the point where you are laboring to breath then you will likely have lung scarring. And that will make you more susceptible to lung cancer later in life. The trajectory of covid's impact on public health is not going to be fully accounted for until another decade or two passes. And by then it will be too late. But many people simply don't think through the long-term implications of a covid infection or even care about anyone but themselves anyway.


Will those shortened lifespans be considered COVID deaths?

In some areas, we are now also seeing unnecessary morbidity and mortality in people who cannot get access to care because there are no available caregivers — they're too busy treating COVID patients.

A friend's boyfriend went to a hospital in Italy very early in the pandemic, when their hospitals were overwhelmed — as some of ours are now. He went there seeking treatment for chest pain, never got to see a doctor, and was sent home with antacids for "acid indigestion". He died of his heart attack hours later. Was his a COVID death?


That's another sad story. There's so many that should have never happened.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#659 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Oct 1, 2021 3:36 pm

In other covid news, Brett Kavanaugh tested positive for covid.

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