NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread

[matt21164]

It's funny how here in Florida where there are no BS mandates you could walk around town and not even have an inkling that anything was wrong unless you turned on the fear inducing boob tube.

Or if you went to a hospital

[Danny1616]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

Huh?

The league can make its own rules.

There are rules against performance enhancements and drugs.

Raptors guard Jalen Harris got suspended for a year because of hard drugs detected in his system.

The NBA announced today that Toronto Raptors guard Jalen Harris has been dismissed and disqualified from the league for violating the terms of the NBA/NBPA Anti-Drug Program.

Under the Anti-Drug Program, Harris, as a first-year player, is eligible to apply for reinstatement in one year.

Why is this different?

[Lalouie]

GOOD. they're all overpaid anyway

[bb22]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

I personally believe I should be able to sniff cocaine off strippers butts while I work. Weed is also legal in my state yet some employers drug test for it anyway so I can't get those jobs. It's a travesty.

Lol exactly.
ISIS and Al-qeada have some strong personal beliefs as well. Maybe these anti-vaxers will start sympathizing with them too.

[Danny1616]

It's funny how here in Florida where there are no BS mandates you could walk around town and not even have an inkling that anything was wrong unless you turned on the fear inducing boob tube.

Except for nearly 55,000 deaths in the past year due to Covid in Florida alone.

Pretty funny stuff.

[TheAlanParsons]

It's funny how here in Florida where there are no BS mandates you could walk around town and not even have an inkling that anything was wrong unless you turned on the fear inducing boob tube.

Or if you went to a hospital

You must mean the boob tube projection of what's going on at hospitals. The real hospitals are fine.

[Ben-N1ce]

It's funny how here in Florida where there are no BS mandates you could walk around town and not even have an inkling that anything was wrong unless you turned on the fear inducing boob tube.

Or if you went to a hospital

You must mean the boob tube projection of what's going on at hospitals. The real hospitals are fine.

Imagine getting Covid and finding out you went to a fake hospital. What kick in the balls.

[Maxthirty]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

What a terrible post that you thought was clever. There are an unlimited amount of personal beliefs that could cause a person to lose their employment. Happens all the time.

[wade44]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

Huh?

The league can make its own rules.

There are rules against performance enhancements and drugs.

Raptors guard Jalen Harris got suspended for a year because of hard drugs detected in his system.

Why is this different?

Obviously the league can make its own rules. They also could have granted a religious exemption to avoid a headache with the players association. It’s a simple freedom to not get vaxxed that is being stripped away because of politics

[Lunartic]

If the vaccine works as expected and it prevents the spread/reduces symptoms, then why aren't people content to let the unvaccinated players face the consequences alone? 70%+ of the population is vaccinated, the remaining 30ish percent clearly isn't interested and thus can reap what they sow.

NBA arenas require proof of vaccination or negative tests and NBA players aren't exactly rushing into the crowds and fighting the fans outside of a single incident.

Other than some rare example of someone that is allergic to vaccines, I can't imagine an unvaxxed player is putting anyone at risk assuming those at risk are vaccinated with a safe and effective vaccine. And that is compounded by the fact that a large swath of the 30% unvaccinated have already gotten and recovered from covid, many NBA players have - thus they have the same protection as someone that took the vaccine.

I suppose I just don't see the risk factor here if the vaccines do indeed work effectively. There has been a great effort by the media and government to tell us that breakthrough cases are exceedingly rare and we need not worry about vaxxed spreading covid.


Additionally, a common argument is that ICU beds will dwindle if everyone isn't vaccinated. Question, if we could guarantee we had enough ICU beds and resources, would you agree to removing all covid restrictions and vaccine requirements?

[TheAlanParsons]

It's funny how here in Florida where there are no BS mandates you could walk around town and not even have an inkling that anything was wrong unless you turned on the fear inducing boob tube.

Except for nearly 55,000 deaths in the past year due to Covid in Florida alone.

Pretty funny stuff.

Yeah, deaths of on average 80 years olds who were already dying but tested "positive" for covid and so they say the died FROM covid and pretend they weren't already on death's door.

Forgive me if I don't find this disease to be so terrifying.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I guess if these guys believe in this stance so strongly they'll request a trade to a city without these mandates. It seems like the best outcome (for them).

[wade44]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

What a terrible post that you thought was clever. There are an unlimited amount of personal beliefs that could cause a person to lose their employment. Happens all the time.

Yeah but used in this context, I would say not. The vaccine mandate is unprecedented

[seren]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

This is factually wrong. Their paychecks will be withheld because they refuse to provide services stated in their contracts. If I do not show up at work for my personal beliefs, I do not expect to get paid.

[Lunartic]

I'm curious what the players union says about this - is there a clause that says their salary can be reduced over local laws? Interesting stuff

[SpreeChokeJob]

I'm So sick of companies enforcing rules and making me comply with things in order to have employment and get paid.

Technically it’s the city or state government laying out the rules. Also there are threats of lawsuits to government and companies if they don’t provide a safe work environment.

If someone got Covid went to work and killed someone’s grandma or mother, some lawsuit happy grieving person might have a case to get millions if all precautions were not taken.

Just those people who get the vaccine and die from a vaccine injury are the ones left in the cold…. Families having no avenues of getting compensated for a family members death.

There is a government program that provides compensation for injury or death from vaccine. But would be difficult to jump through the hoops to get the money, but so would be a lawsuit.

In the end, companies are going to protect themselves from liability. People have a choice to work at that company or not. They just won't get paid if they choose not to.

[Cyrusman122000]

Why don’t teams just trade any players who don’t want to get vaccinated? The only cities that are an issue are SF, New York and probably LA very soon. There are 25 other cities they can go to.

If I’m Wiggins I’d demand to be traded to either the Heat, Magic, Spurs, Rockets, Mavs, or Suns.

[seren]

Imagine an NFL player missing every game on every Sunday because he needs to attend church services. Should he get paid?

[wade44]

This is wrong on so many levels. Imagine withholding millions of dollars from someone over their personal beliefs. Unreal

I personally believe I should be able to sniff cocaine off strippers butts while I work. Weed is also legal in my state yet some employers drug test for it anyway so I can't get those jobs. It's a travesty.

Lol exactly.
ISIS and Al-qeada have some strong personal beliefs as well. Maybe these anti-vaxers will start sympathizing with them too.

Another clear cut example of demonizing beliefs with a totally unrealistic example. Sad how objectivity has devolved into groupthink nonsense

[lonniefire]

Can we please not get this thread locked by turning this into a Covid argument?