Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Sportfan73]

We're at part 5. How many parts will it go to?

For some reason I feel not much longer. Just seems like one of those times that everyone starts to think it’s not ending any time soon and then all of the sudden right when that’s the sentiment a deal out of absolutely no where happens

I’m sure Morey is on his phone constantly trying to work out a deal. Problem is both parties have to feel like they’ve won the deal.

I just have a gut feeling it’s within the next week

[sixers hoops]

For some reason I feel not much longer. Just seems like one of those times that everyone starts to think it’s not ending any time soon and then all of the sudden right when that’s the sentiment a deal out of absolutely no where happens

I’m sure Morey is on his phone constantly trying to work out a deal. Problem is both parties have to feel like they’ve won the deal.

I just have a gut feeling it’s within the next week

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

[Sportfan73]

I’m sure Morey is on his phone constantly trying to work out a deal. Problem is both parties have to feel like they’ve won the deal.

I just have a gut feeling it’s within the next week

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

I think the offers have hit there worse and will start to improve enough to where we can drive up the bargain to an acceptable offer between a few bidders here soon. And as much as some here want pick packages or rebuilding teams I think it’s far far more likely that’s it’s a team trying to take the jump to contender (Portland, pacers, warriors) my odds are on Portland or Indiana. Just doesn’t seem like morey has had any interest in picks or young players from multiple sources. Obviously Portland wants to go all in with dame, and I think it’s odd that Indiana was quietly shopping Brogdon at the deadline last year. They seem non committal long term to him and have a new coach that would love Simmons. Someone who thinks they can go into the next tier of teams

[Iverson Armband]

There’s nothing obtuse about it

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Right. We all know what they can give him in fines. The failure to render services and losing his entire paycheck is what Ben won’t give up. He could likely afford to sit a whole season, but he isn’t going to give $33 million back.

Now its your turn to post about fines again from your corner lol

You obviously don’t know how his contract is structured

He was paid $8.25 million of the $33 million for this season on July 1

Unless they suspend him in the next 24 hours, he is owed another $8.25 million TOMORROW

He’s not going to the poor house anytime soon

Right, and if he doesn’t play, he HAS to give that money back at some point. You think he can just keep 16M, magically?

It’s basically just a front, under the assumption he’s going to play.

[Tomjas]

Right. We all know what they can give him in fines. The failure to render services and losing his entire paycheck is what Ben won’t give up. He could likely afford to sit a whole season, but he isn’t going to give $33 million back.

Now its your turn to post about fines again from your corner lol

You obviously don’t know how his contract is structured

He was paid $8.25 million of the $33 million for this season on July 1

Unless they suspend him in the next 24 hours, he is owed another $8.25 million TOMORROW

He’s not going to the poor house anytime soon

Right, and if he doesn’t play, he HAS to give that money back at some point. You think he can just keep 16M, magically?

It’s basically just a front, under the assumption he’s going to play.

That’s not how it works under the cba

[Iverson Armband]

You obviously don’t know how his contract is structured

He was paid $8.25 million of the $33 million for this season on July 1

Unless they suspend him in the next 24 hours, he is owed another $8.25 million TOMORROW

He’s not going to the poor house anytime soon

Right, and if he doesn’t play, he HAS to give that money back at some point. You think he can just keep 16M, magically?

It’s basically just a front, under the assumption he’s going to play.

That’s not how it works under the cba

Might wanna take another look.

[Jailblazers7]

On the subject of will we pay Ben his salary or not, there’s no shot the the Sixers withhold his pay IMO. The Sixers do not want to become known to future free agents as the team that withheld paychecks from a player. It’s a bad look and will definitely spoil any chance they have to work with Klutch clients in the future. Right now Klutch is just in a standoff over an individual client, but if they withhold pay that it would be a major escalation. They’ll fine him which is expected and all part of standard tactics but withholding a paycheck will be something that will hurt the Sixers reputation with all FAs and their agents moving forward.

[sixers hoops]

Right, and if he doesn’t play, he HAS to give that money back at some point. You think he can just keep 16M, magically?

It’s basically just a front, under the assumption he’s going to play.

That’s not how it works under the cba

Might wanna take another look.

Trust me. He has never read the CBA. He’s trolling now, because his horrible understanding of contractual language blew up in his face.

[HotelVitale]

I just have a gut feeling it’s within the next week

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

I think the offers have hit there worse and will start to improve enough to where we can drive up the bargain to an acceptable offer between a few bidders here soon. And as much as some here want pick packages or rebuilding teams I think it’s far far more likely that’s it’s a team trying to take the jump to contender (Portland, pacers, warriors) my odds are on Portland or Indiana. Just doesn’t seem like morey has had any interest in picks or young players from multiple sources. Obviously Portland wants to go all in with dame, and I think it’s odd that Indiana was quietly shopping Brogdon at the deadline last year. They seem non committal long term to him and have a new coach that would love Simmons. Someone who thinks they can go into the next tier of teams

I don't know if the offers will get better but it's pretty safe to say they won't get worse. I envision this thing dragging on for many months, don't think Morey is going to take a meh offer unless he knows that's the only move.

[sixers hoops]

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

I think the offers have hit there worse and will start to improve enough to where we can drive up the bargain to an acceptable offer between a few bidders here soon. And as much as some here want pick packages or rebuilding teams I think it’s far far more likely that’s it’s a team trying to take the jump to contender (Portland, pacers, warriors) my odds are on Portland or Indiana. Just doesn’t seem like morey has had any interest in picks or young players from multiple sources. Obviously Portland wants to go all in with dame, and I think it’s odd that Indiana was quietly shopping Brogdon at the deadline last year. They seem non committal long term to him and have a new coach that would love Simmons. Someone who thinks they can go into the next tier of teams

I don't know if the offers will get better but it's pretty safe to say they won't get worse. I envision this thing dragging on for many months, don't think Morey is going to take a meh offer unless he knows that's the only move.

Yeah. Harden and Butler messes went about a month into the season. Minnesota just took a meh offer, in my opinion, to get Jimmy out of the building.

[Tomjas]

That’s not how it works under the cba

Might wanna take another look.

Trust me. He has never read the CBA. He’s trolling now, because his horrible understanding of contractual language blew up in his face.

It’s pretty simple

Simmons has a guaranteed contract

Fines are deducted from salary

He was paid 25% in July as there were no fines

Unless he’s suspended, he’ll be paid another 25% tomorrow

Future fines will simply be deducted from his salary

[Murray_17]

Teams that underperform are gonna start to panic and try to make moves to save the season. It's the normal thing.

Morey and the office need to have patience

[Stanford]

The Sixers do not want to become known to future free agents as the team that withheld paychecks from a player.

I think most players plan on showing up to work after signing a contract. Perhaps we won't get the ones who don't plan to.

[Foshan]

Teams that underperform are gonna start to panic and try to make moves to save the season. It's the normal thing.

Morey and the office need to have patience

Agreed, already Timberwolves have had some drama in the FO, KAT is tweeting, and losses haven’t even started yet. Millard is being a good soldier… but they are still pretenders in the west. So many other narratives that can blow up before the trade deadline. Patience is key.

[Ballerhogger]

Teams that underperform are gonna start to panic and try to make moves to save the season. It's the normal thing.

Morey and the office need to have patience

somewhat of gamble if Portland starts slow than it could get interesting. The wolves dont have much to offer, unless they foolishy give up ant man. .DLO work with 76ers?

[Ballerhogger]

Right. We all know what they can give him in fines. The failure to render services and losing his entire paycheck is what Ben won’t give up. He could likely afford to sit a whole season, but he isn’t going to give $33 million back.

Now its your turn to post about fines again from your corner lol

You obviously don’t know how his contract is structured

He was paid $8.25 million of the $33 million for this season on July 1

Unless they suspend him in the next 24 hours, he is owed another $8.25 million TOMORROW

He’s not going to the poor house anytime soon

Right, and if he doesn’t play, he HAS to give that money back at some point. You think he can just keep 16M, magically?

It’s basically just a front, under the assumption he’s going to play.

its guaranteed 8.25m yes... that's how guaranteed checks work.He gets that no matter what. If hes traded tomorrow the other team pays it. If not 76ers pay it.

[elchengue20]

Ben shoudnt get paid if he doesnt shows up to work. End of story.

I dont understand how this is even a debate, it should be automatic.

[Ballerhogger]

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

I think the offers have hit there worse and will start to improve enough to where we can drive up the bargain to an acceptable offer between a few bidders here soon. And as much as some here want pick packages or rebuilding teams I think it’s far far more likely that’s it’s a team trying to take the jump to contender (Portland, pacers, warriors) my odds are on Portland or Indiana. Just doesn’t seem like morey has had any interest in picks or young players from multiple sources. Obviously Portland wants to go all in with dame, and I think it’s odd that Indiana was quietly shopping Brogdon at the deadline last year. They seem non committal long term to him and have a new coach that would love Simmons. Someone who thinks they can go into the next tier of teams

I don't know if the offers will get better but it's pretty safe to say they won't get worse. I envision this thing dragging on for many months, don't think Morey is going to take a meh offer unless he knows that's the only move.

If the 76ers start off slow will pressure him to move ben? Vice versa if they start off well I guess trade talks back down?

[Ballerhogger]

Ben shoudnt get paid if he doesnt shows up to work. End of story.

I dont understand how this is even a debate, it should be automatic.

The NBA needs to look at the nfl on guaranteed contracts in the next cba. Its not working as of now. I except a hold out. Lots things needs to be addressed guaranteed money is one of them.

[Sportfan73]

If the offers start getting worse, Morey might have to hang in there to save face.

I think the offers have hit there worse and will start to improve enough to where we can drive up the bargain to an acceptable offer between a few bidders here soon. And as much as some here want pick packages or rebuilding teams I think it’s far far more likely that’s it’s a team trying to take the jump to contender (Portland, pacers, warriors) my odds are on Portland or Indiana. Just doesn’t seem like morey has had any interest in picks or young players from multiple sources. Obviously Portland wants to go all in with dame, and I think it’s odd that Indiana was quietly shopping Brogdon at the deadline last year. They seem non committal long term to him and have a new coach that would love Simmons. Someone who thinks they can go into the next tier of teams

I don't know if the offers will get better but it's pretty safe to say they won't get worse. I envision this thing dragging on for many months, don't think Morey is going to take a meh offer unless he knows that's the only move.

I think this is what we WANT to get the best offer but to me is pretty unrealistic. I would be absolutely dumbfounded shocked if he’s here New Year’s Day unless he’s back and playing. Teams that start bad might not even care about the year, and teams that are doing good will not want to trade any win now picks. You guys are also downright insane if you think morey lets it go into the year and then takes picks as the main piece of a package