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Post#1161 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:56 am

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kuclas wrote:Just let Simmons sit out the year. If he’s willing to lose 20-30 million.

Right now klutch sports is just trolling and daring sixers. When the paychecks get withheld. It becomes real

My guess is he will show up but try not to do much. And than claim back injury stiffness. That buys him one month.


They could say "Ok stay home, no paycheck." IDK how that helps them, I think they should trade him as soon as possible, 60-65 cents on the dollar is better than a cancer on the team even if he is sitting out.

The could get some cap relief some picks and maybe some useful players. If Ben says, "I'll play anywhere else." Then he shouldn't be too hard to move.

Because the so so offers the sixers are gonna to lose likely in the second round again

is it worth the circus?
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Post#1162 » by NYG » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:11 am

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kuclas wrote:
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They could say "Ok stay home, no paycheck." IDK how that helps them, I think they should trade him as soon as possible, 60-65 cents on the dollar is better than a cancer on the team even if he is sitting out.

The could get some cap relief some picks and maybe some useful players. If Ben says, "I'll play anywhere else." Then he shouldn't be too hard to move.

Because the so so offers the sixers are gonna to lose likely in the second round again

is it worth the circus?


I think that depends entirely on what we mean by so so offers. Has any offer actually been confirmed? What is the perceived best offer on the table?
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Post#1163 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:13 am

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kuclas wrote:Because the so so offers the sixers are gonna to lose likely in the second round again

is it worth the circus?


I think that depends entirely on what we mean by so so offers. Has any offer actually been confirmed? What is the perceived best offer on the table?

true we heard of pacers trade while back but nothing of note yet. Hes gets 8.2m on Friday. Surely ownership wants this moved along ?
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Post#1164 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:43 am

My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me
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Post#1165 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:47 am

My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me
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Post#1166 » by OutsidetheNBA » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:48 am

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Ballerhogger wrote:is it worth the circus?


I think that depends entirely on what we mean by so so offers. Has any offer actually been confirmed? What is the perceived best offer on the table?

true we heard of pacers trade while back but nothing of note yet. Hes gets 8.2m on Friday. Surely ownership wants this moved along ?


After Simmons gets paid his lump sum ($16 million total?) up front, he becomes a *more* valuable trade asset for mid or small market teams like Portland, Indiana, etc. Philadelphia's owners are rich and willing to spend to win a championship. They're probably happy to pay that lump sum up front to make Simmons a more valuable asset.
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Post#1167 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:56 am

Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me

Same don’t how he fits rick’s high flying offense maybe rick has changed his gameplan
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Post#1168 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:58 am

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Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me

Same don’t how he fits rick’s high flying offense maybe rick has changed his gameplan

I think it would be sabonis to a third team, Simmons and Curry or shake to Indy, and Brogdon and something pretty dang valuable to Philly. Add value wherever needed obviously
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Post#1169 » by BoogieTime » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 am

Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me


Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it
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Post#1170 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:04 am

BoogieTime wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me


Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it

I think the thought process of an Indy or a Portland makes the most sense.
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Post#1171 » by basketballwacko2 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:07 am

kuclas wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
kuclas wrote:Just let Simmons sit out the year. If he’s willing to lose 20-30 million.

Right now klutch sports is just trolling and daring sixers. When the paychecks get withheld. It becomes real

My guess is he will show up but try not to do much. And than claim back injury stiffness. That buys him one month.


They could say "Ok stay home, no paycheck." IDK how that helps them, I think they should trade him as soon as possible, 60-65 cents on the dollar is better than a cancer on the team even if he is sitting out.

The could get some cap relief some picks and maybe some useful players. If Ben says, "I'll play anywhere else." Then he shouldn't be too hard to move.

Because the so so offers the sixers are gonna to lose likely in the second round again


The try to trade him for expiring contracts and picks maybe some teams failed #1 pick from the last year or 2. Better to get out of his contract if nothing else. There is the concept of addition by subtraction.
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Post#1172 » by basketballwacko2 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:11 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me

Same don’t how he fits rick’s high flying offense maybe rick has changed his gameplan

I think it would be sabonis to a third team, Simmons and Curry or shake to Indy, and Brogdon and something pretty dang valuable to Philly. Add value wherever needed obviously


I hope not! That makes Indiana worse.
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Post#1173 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:58 am

BoogieTime wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me


Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it


nope morey already said no. it has to be brogdon and turner for me. turner and sabonis would be even better while morey adds ben and picks.
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Post#1174 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:11 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:My money is on Brogdon or CJ. That just seems like the direction they go to me


Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it


nope morey already said no. it has to be brogdon and turner for me. turner and sabonis would be even better while morey adds ben and picks.

Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly
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Post#1175 » by zimpy27 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:23 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it


nope morey already said no. it has to be brogdon and turner for me. turner and sabonis would be even better while morey adds ben and picks.

Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly


I've been thinking something like that and posted a few but Sabonis alone is probably worth similar value to Ben. The Sabonis return would need to be split as a piece for Indy and a piece for Philly.

A simpler Indy trade could also just be Simmons+Curry for Brogdon+LeVert+Sumner
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Post#1176 » by Sportfan73 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:27 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
nope morey already said no. it has to be brogdon and turner for me. turner and sabonis would be even better while morey adds ben and picks.

Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly


I've been thinking something like that and posted a few but Sabonis alone is probably worth similar value to Ben. The Sabonis return would need to be split as a piece for Indy and a piece for Philly.

A simpler Indy trade could also just be Simmons for Brogdon+LeVert.

I could also see Simmons+Curry for Brogdon+LeVert+JHoliday

I just don’t think giving up Brogdon and LeVert makes sense for Indiana. I would do it for Philly in a heart beat
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Post#1177 » by zimpy27 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:34 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly


I've been thinking something like that and posted a few but Sabonis alone is probably worth similar value to Ben. The Sabonis return would need to be split as a piece for Indy and a piece for Philly.

A simpler Indy trade could also just be Simmons for Brogdon+LeVert.

I could also see Simmons+Curry for Brogdon+LeVert+JHoliday

I just don’t think giving up Brogdon and LeVert makes sense for Indiana. I would do it for Philly in a heart beat


I had a variation where they give up Sabonis+LeVert+Lamb to get Simmons+Curry+Achiuwa
Philly would get CJ+LeVert for Simmons+Curry

It felt like a more ideal team for Rick Carlisle in Indy and it's probably a perfect package for Philly
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Post#1178 » by Mike lorenzo » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:42 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
Brogdon plus Duarte, would be very good for the Sixers, if they can get it


nope morey already said no. it has to be brogdon and turner for me. turner and sabonis would be even better while morey adds ben and picks.

Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly

Pacers
In: Simons / Kyle / Jazz22 / Clarke
Out: Sabonis / Brogdon / Lamb

Turner / Goga
Kyle / Clarke/IJ
Warren / Holiday
Duarte / Levert
Simons / Mcconell


76ers
In: Brogdon / Brooks
Out: Simons

Embiid / Dru
Harris / Korkmaz
Brooks / Green
Thybulle / Curry
Brogdon / Maxey


Grizzlies
In: Sabonis / Lamb
Out: Brooks / Kyle / Jazz22 / Clarke

Sabonis / Adams
JJJ / Tillman
Ziaire / Lamb
Bane / Melton
Ja/Tyus
1+1=11
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Post#1179 » by Tomjas » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:56 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:Ben and Curry for Brogdon and then sabonis to a third team and the return to Philly


I've been thinking something like that and posted a few but Sabonis alone is probably worth similar value to Ben. The Sabonis return would need to be split as a piece for Indy and a piece for Philly.

A simpler Indy trade could also just be Simmons for Brogdon+LeVert.

I could also see Simmons+Curry for Brogdon+LeVert+JHoliday

I just don’t think giving up Brogdon and LeVert makes sense for Indiana. I would do it for Philly in a heart beat


Pacers finished 9th in the East and both are injury prone

It’s a no brainer

Then move Sabonis for more assets
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Post#1180 » by gambitx777 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:53 am

Fox and buddy and a future first and some seconds.
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Ben, green, maxey, thybulle.

Maybe even route green to a third team to get the 76ers another asset or an expiring to sac.

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