Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Sixerscan]

The pertinent section of the CBA got posted a few pages ago and you ignored it.
With all your knowledge of the CBA, why dont you post the sections youre referring to and explain yourself?
Maybe that will help clear things up?

See the top of the page, loser.

Article 6, if you are curious.

Wow that 'loser' really hits me like a poison dagger to the heart. How will I ever recover?
Im asking an honest question.

Sorry for calling you a loser but you said I "ignored" the relavant CBA provision when I literally quoted a post citing it at the top of the page you accused me of that (57).

[Sixerscan]

Logic has gone out the window at this point

There’s very little point in him turning up as everyone knows he’s being traded so best to run with guys who will be there without the distraction his presence would create

If they fine him for not turning up, a **** storm will ensue creating more distraction

I don’t know that Morey is too worried about the distraction. For all the talk of the distraction, the guys are in camp practicing. Doc gave some crappy interviews. The players gave some quick thoughts on it at media day. If Ben isn’t in the building, the team will get ready for the season, and Doc will just say everyday that he is hopeful that Ben shows up. They might almost be relieved at this point that they don’t have to play with a guy who doesn’t want to be there. They tried to reach out but Ben wasn’t interested.

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

Ownership cares if they pay someone $33 million to play basketball and they openly say they're healthy and they're not going to play basketball. There are reports from Simmons' camp acknowledging that fines/reductions are coming, not sure why you are making this so difficult rather than just admitting you were wrong about saying the Sixers had no means of recouping the money he's otherwise owed under the contract, or just moving on. You openly admitted as much yesterday you just tried to hide behind it going to charity.

[Mik317]

yes the CP3 trade (one that kinda got the team the closest to the finals since Hakeem but do you) is Morey's claim to fame.

I don't know what the guy did to you but come on. The Harden trade, the rise of analytics and if you want to be negative, the China comments are all more closer to his claim to fame.

I think he is a bit overrated or maybe washed but lets not get crazy here lol.

idk why you are so gung ho about just forcing any trade just because....if anything if Morey did that that would be worse than prolonging the clown show. IMO any deal he can take right now...will still be on the table in a month or so...with even more after teams get off to poor starts and FA's are able to be traded again.

[Tomjas]

I don’t know that Morey is too worried about the distraction. For all the talk of the distraction, the guys are in camp practicing. Doc gave some crappy interviews. The players gave some quick thoughts on it at media day. If Ben isn’t in the building, the team will get ready for the season, and Doc will just say everyday that he is hopeful that Ben shows up. They might almost be relieved at this point that they don’t have to play with a guy who doesn’t want to be there. They tried to reach out but Ben wasn’t interested.

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

Ownership cares if they pay someone $33 million to play basketball and they openly say they're healthy and they're not going to play basketball. There are reports from Simmons' camp acknowledging that fines/reductions are coming, not sure why you are making this so difficult rather than just admitting you were wrong about saying the Sixers had no means of recouping the money he's otherwise owed under the contract, or just moving on. You openly admitted as much yesterday you just tried to hide behind it going to charity.

Wtf are you talking about?

Player’s fines are paid to the NBA & Players Association who hand them on to charities

Club doesn’t receive a dime

This is unprecedented so things can change

[Zumramania]

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

You do realize that our previous GM's were BC and Brand?

Morey does look like a guy who learns from his past mistakes + this is a very difficult situation for any GM. I don't think we'd be better off with some other guy.

[Tomjas]

yes the CP3 trade (one that kinda got the team the closest to the finals since Hakeem but do you) is Morey's claim to fame.

I don't know what the guy did to you but come on. The Harden trade, the rise of analytics and if you want to be negative, the China comments are all more closer to his claim to fame.

I think he is a bit overrated or maybe washed but lets not get crazy here lol.

idk why you are so gung ho about just forcing any trade just because....if anything if Morey did that that would be worse than prolonging the clown show. IMO any deal he can take right now...will still be on the table in a month or so...with even more after teams get off to poor starts and FA's are able to be traded again.

The Rockets went into a tail spin after the Paul trade

What are you talking about?

[Stanford]

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

OH, it's so clear now. You're not a serious person! Mystery solved.

[Sixerscan]

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

Ownership cares if they pay someone $33 million to play basketball and they openly say they're healthy and they're not going to play basketball. There are reports from Simmons' camp acknowledging that fines/reductions are coming, not sure why you are making this so difficult rather than just admitting you were wrong about saying the Sixers had no means of recouping the money he's otherwise owed under the contract, or just moving on. You openly admitted as much yesterday you just tried to hide behind it going to charity.

Wtf are you talking about?

Player’s fines are paid to the NBA & Players Association who hand them on to charities

Club doesn’t receive a dime

This is unprecedented so things can change

(a) as people have told you several times, the cba says they can just reduce his salary which means they can keep the money and (b) who honestly cares whether the team gets it or charity when it comes to this point. He doesn't get to keep the money if he's not going to show up and the team decides to act within their rights of the CBA.

[Tomjas]

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

You do realize that our previous GM's were BC and Brand?

Morey does look like a guy who learns from his past mistakes + this is a very difficult situation for any GM. I don't think we'd be better off with some other guy.

What?

He destroyed the Rockets and has been trying to trade Ben for a year

Learning????

Just lol

[Sixerscan]

yes the CP3 trade (one that kinda got the team the closest to the finals since Hakeem but do you) is Morey's claim to fame.

He's pretending the CP3/Westbrook trade that everyone acknowledges was a Fertitta/Harden joint was all Morey because he's in his feelings for being wrong about this whole fine/reduction thing.

[Tomjas]

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

OH, it's so clear now. You're not a serious person! Mystery solved.

Our major moves were to sign Drummond and alienate Simmons

#1 seed to 5-play in

Fkn great

[Rastas]

Why would Morey care?

He’s earning $10 million a year for 5 years with his main claim to fame being completely **** up the Chris Paul trade

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

You do realize that our previous GM's were BC and Brand?

Morey does look like a guy who learns from his past mistakes + this is a very difficult situation for any GM. I don't think we'd be better off with some other guy.

What?

He destroyed the Rockets and has been trying to trade Ben for a year

Learning????

Just lol

He actually looked like a total Bobble Head to Doc's chit chat at the Presser.
Hardly a word out of his quivering mouth.
Good Luck guys.

[Stanford]

He’s a hack that’s lucky to have a job

OH, it's so clear now. You're not a serious person! Mystery solved.

Our major moves were to sign Drummond and alienate Simmons

#1 seed to 5-play in

Fkn great

Your makeup is showing

[Tomjas]

Ownership cares if they pay someone $33 million to play basketball and they openly say they're healthy and they're not going to play basketball. There are reports from Simmons' camp acknowledging that fines/reductions are coming, not sure why you are making this so difficult rather than just admitting you were wrong about saying the Sixers had no means of recouping the money he's otherwise owed under the contract, or just moving on. You openly admitted as much yesterday you just tried to hide behind it going to charity.

Wtf are you talking about?

Player’s fines are paid to the NBA & Players Association who hand them on to charities

Club doesn’t receive a dime

This is unprecedented so things can change

(a) as people have told you several times, the cba says they can just reduce his salary which means they can keep the money and (b) who honestly cares whether the team gets it or charity when it comes to this point. He doesn't get to keep the money if he's not going to show up and the team decides to act within their rights of the CBA.

Great

Enjoy Walmart backcourt while $30 million in salary wastes away

[RedSalsa]

Trust me. He has never read the CBA. He’s trolling now, because his horrible understanding of contractual language blew up in his face.

This

You have no idea

lol

U got boxed dude just move on kid

[thenbaman]

The sixers will be just as good or better than last year with maxey running the show.

[Tomjas]

The sixers will be just as good or better than last year with maxey running the show.

lol he’s not a proven starter yet

[Mik317]

like you are whining that Morey doesn't just trade Ben for whatever because we are a 5 seed...when if he does trade him for whatever...we'd be ....a 5 seed.

I don't see the upside beyond being able to talk about anything else.
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We are stuck. Partially because Morey got too big for his britches lol but also because of the previous regime's running through everything in the name of immediate progress and Ben getting in his feels because we dained to attempt to trade him for James **** Harden and for the first time told him his **** stanks. It sucks but it is what it is. I highly doubt we let him sit all year and I highly doubt he would sit all year. Right now this is all posturing and apart of the business. It will end with both sides coming off their previous requests and making something work...probably a trade. But there is no rush in rushing things as of this very moment.

I am sure they feel otherwise but the bottom line is that this team will not win a championship this year. Ben trade, Ben return, or not. So making a rash move is pointless IMO. Throwing Maxey (and I guess Shake) to the wolves and seeing what a Ben-less team looks like in the short term is for the best with everything we currently have at our disposal. If it works out, then great...if not...then fine.
It doesn't really change the calculus of this season IMO. Or at the very least not the first month or so. Again banking on teams fumbling out the gate (although we could easily be that team lol) and for FAs to be tradable again is the best course of action IMO... hell the main teams in the running for Ben right now (Minny, Cavs and I guess SA or Sactown) all will still probably be in the running in that time too.

So I don't get your angst over this really. Nor do I understand your beef with Morey. He hasn't done anything to really get this level of rage imo. The Ben trade is the first real test and until it happens......I'm not going to kill the guy over waiting it out yet.

[Negrodamus]

We shouldn't be surprised that Ben Simmons fans want to see Ben Simmons play immediately, regardless of how detrimental it is to his value or the Sixers contention now and in the future.

[Rastas]

We shouldn't be surprised that Ben Simmons fans want to see Ben Simmons play immediately, regardless of how detrimental it is to his value or the Sixers contention now and in the future.

Not me - I'm happy for Ben to get some away time to work on things like - FT's and Right Handed Shooting, any niggling injury's and especially to Detox all the Toxicity he's been dealing with.

My guess is he has a date in mind on when he may be prepared to return if Morey won't Trade him.
Just don't expect to much actual Playing if he does show up.