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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#581 » by moonpie » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:34 pm

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Post#582 » by shrink » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:44 pm

zimpy27 wrote:I don't think Minnesota can get Simmons without giving up either DLo or Ant.

Dang, who should we choose? :wink:
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#583 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:46 pm

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Can the 76ers do this? They can fine him for not reporting, but if they breach his contract by not paying him could that make him a free agent?


You have your right to ask ridiculous questions.

I see what you're doing. Ha ha so funny.
There is NOTHING ridiculous about the question. His contract calls for 25% of it to be paid today. They have the right to fine him for not reporting on time, but I question if they have the right to withhold his pay.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#584 » by zimpy27 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:48 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:I don't think Minnesota can get Simmons without giving up either DLo or Ant.

Dang, who should we choose? :wink:


Exactly.. I guess a third alternative is to throw every pick you have at a 3rd team
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#585 » by Domejandro » Fri Oct 1, 2021 10:10 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:I don't think Minnesota can get Simmons without giving up either DLo or Ant.

Dang, who should we choose? :wink:


Exactly.. I guess a third alternative is to throw every pick you have at a 3rd team

For what it is worth, I think this is the only realistic scenario, given what Philadelphia likely wants.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#586 » by Calinks » Fri Oct 1, 2021 11:19 pm

If the wolves get off to a hot enough start, they make play themselves out of the Ben Simmons market as he would only hurt our chances at a title. XD
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#587 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sat Oct 2, 2021 12:14 am

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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#588 » by shangrila » Sat Oct 2, 2021 12:21 am

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Well, my $1,000 ER bill for my 3 year olds sudden battle with croup doesn’t seem so bad

Hope your kids doing better.

On a side note, medical bills are almost as painful as whatever you're being treated for. At least in my experience.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#589 » by Slim Tubby » Sat Oct 2, 2021 12:57 am

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Can the 76ers do this? They can fine him for not reporting, but if they breach his contract by not paying him could that make him a free agent?


You have your right to ask ridiculous questions.

Not necessary. The team reserves the right to fine him but withholding his salary to ensure receiving the fines might very well have some legal ramifications.


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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#590 » by thinktank » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:09 am

KGdaBom wrote:
thinktank wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Can the 76ers do this? They can fine him for not reporting, but if they breach his contract by not paying him could that make him a free agent?


You have your right to ask ridiculous questions.

I see what you're doing. Ha ha so funny.
There is NOTHING ridiculous about the question. His contract calls for 25% of it to be paid today. They have the right to fine him for not reporting on time, but I question if they have the right to withhold his pay.


His contract doesn’t call for 25% of his salary to be paid today
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#591 » by SO_MONEY » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:13 am

thinktank wrote:
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You have your right to ask ridiculous questions.

I see what you're doing. Ha ha so funny.
There is NOTHING ridiculous about the question. His contract calls for 25% of it to be paid today. They have the right to fine him for not reporting on time, but I question if they have the right to withhold his pay.


His contract doesn’t call for 25% of his salary to be paid today


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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#592 » by Domejandro » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:28 am

I actually know how the contract works, so I'll offer an explanation.

Ben Simmon's is due for his payment, but his payment is based on games played (the current payment structure was a negotiated advance). If Ben Simmons plays games (or is traded and plays games), he will be receiving that money.

Simple as that. The salary is simply being held by Philadelphia for not reporting, but will likely end up going to Ben Simmons anyways.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#593 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:41 am

Domejandro wrote:I actually know how the contract works, so I'll offer an explanation.

Ben Simmon's is due for his payment, but his payment is based on games played (the current payment structure was a negotiated advance). If Ben Simmons plays games (or is traded and plays games), he will be receiving that money.

Simple as that. The salary is simply being held by Philadelphia for not reporting, but will likely end up going to Ben Simmons anyways.

Everything I have read said he was supposed to get 25% of his annual salary today. Now if the 76ers have a right to withhold that salary due to him not reporting I did not know. That is why I asked my very reasonable question.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#594 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:42 am

So far my prediction of this going into the season is holding up, lots of people thought he would be moved before camp. I still think this will go on for some time.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#595 » by Domejandro » Sat Oct 2, 2021 2:05 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Domejandro wrote:I actually know how the contract works, so I'll offer an explanation.

Ben Simmon's is due for his payment, but his payment is based on games played (the current payment structure was a negotiated advance). If Ben Simmons plays games (or is traded and plays games), he will be receiving that money.

Simple as that. The salary is simply being held by Philadelphia for not reporting, but will likely end up going to Ben Simmons anyways.

Everything I have read said he was supposed to get 25% of his annual salary today. Now if the 76ers have a right to withhold that salary due to him not reporting I did not know. That is why I asked my very reasonable question.

I actually thought it was a fine question, for what it is worth. It's a bit muddy, but functionally Philadelphia has a right to withhold pay and Ben Simmons + his agent could file a claim at any time (they will not unless it is set in stone that he is playing though, given that they would just be fined that money back, anyways).
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#596 » by fattymcgee » Sat Oct 2, 2021 2:46 am

Calinks wrote:So far my prediction of this going into the season is holding up, lots of people thought he would be moved before camp. I still think this will go on for some time.


Don't toot your own horn yet, there's still more than two weeks to go.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#597 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:25 am

shangrila wrote:
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Well, my $1,000 ER bill for my 3 year olds sudden battle with croup doesn’t seem so bad

Hope your kids doing better.

On a side note, medical bills are almost as painful as whatever you're being treated for. At least in my experience.

Yep he’s good now, Scary night tho. And of course it was at 11PM when he started his bark cough…so ya, ER time. One expensive cold
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#598 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:27 am

Calinks wrote:So far my prediction of this going into the season is holding up, lots of people thought he would be moved before camp. I still think this will go on for some time.

Looking like it. Let Philly have a 37M empty bench seat.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#599 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:54 am

fattymcgee wrote:
Calinks wrote:So far my prediction of this going into the season is holding up, lots of people thought he would be moved before camp. I still think this will go on for some time.


Don't toot your own horn yet, there's still more than two weeks to go.

Haha true, I just want to make sure its out there that I think this is going the distance. (at least until after the season starts) :lol:
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#600 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 2, 2021 6:04 am

You guys think there will be a honeymoon period when Simmonds does get traded to his new team? Like he will go off and put up amazing numbers just to shove it in the medias/Sixers/fans faces? MAybe he's spent this whole off-season just going crazy on his game so he can "prove everyone wrong" or something.
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