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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#421 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 1, 2021 6:54 pm

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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#422 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:04 pm

Ben Simmons is a **** clown, this is hilarious.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#423 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:10 pm

OK, now the circus is getting entertaining.

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Post#424 » by emunney » Fri Oct 1, 2021 7:14 pm

Something around Simmons+ for Beal just seems so right to me.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#425 » by WRau1 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 8:02 pm

Nah, he'll end up in MIN or HOU. MIN is the better fit and they actually have a few pieces that make sense for that PHI roster.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#426 » by randy84 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:38 pm

emunney wrote:Something around Simmons+ for Beal just seems so right to me.

For who?
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#427 » by randy84 » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:41 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
raferfenix wrote:How much loyalty could Harden really have to the Nets?

I don’t see him having any qualms about bailing if this season doesn’t meet his expectations for whatever reason.


I'd guess it's more about loyalty to KD than to the Nets. Granted, Harden was traded from OKC but I'm sure KD was against that move, big time. All accounts were/are these guys are good friends. And if you want a title the best guys to pair with are Giannis and KD, LBJ but that has a very limited shelf life right now. Go some place else and now he has to go up against those guys.


Hilarious to look back at that trade and realize that OKC lost Harden over $4.5 million.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#428 » by emunney » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:55 pm

randy84 wrote:
emunney wrote:Something around Simmons+ for Beal just seems so right to me.

For who?


Both teams.
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Post#429 » by FlagsFlyForever » Fri Oct 1, 2021 9:59 pm

WRau1 wrote:Nah, he'll end up in MIN or HOU. MIN is the better fit and they actually have a few pieces that make sense for that PHI roster.

Simmons has no value to a team like MIN if he refuses to report being the young socialite he is.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#430 » by WRau1 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 1:15 am

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WRau1 wrote:Nah, he'll end up in MIN or HOU. MIN is the better fit and they actually have a few pieces that make sense for that PHI roster.

Simmons has no value to a team like MIN if he refuses to report being the young socialite he is.


Why wouldn't he report to MIN?
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#431 » by RESPERT » Sat Oct 2, 2021 3:09 am

I'm oddly entertained by the Wizards' long, random list of bigs

Rui
Gafford
Bertans
Kuzma
Harrel
Bryant
Gill
Todd

reminds me of the hammond era teams where we were all fooled into thinking there must be one more move coming to balance the roster
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#432 » by raferfenix » Sat Oct 2, 2021 4:05 am

:lol:

But at this juncture, it appears no trade conversations between the Sixers and rival teams are in advanced stages.

“We are in training camp with our full roster,” said one assistant general manager of a team that held negotiations with the Sixers this offseason. “Only Philly is concerned about a trade right now.”


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2948947-sources-new-developments-emerge-in-ben-simmons-philadelphia-76ers-standoff
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#433 » by raferfenix » Sat Oct 2, 2021 4:11 am

WRau1 wrote:Nah, he'll end up in MIN or HOU. MIN is the better fit and they actually have a few pieces that make sense for that PHI roster.


Wolves also just canned their POBO.

If any team were willing to shake it up so late in the offseason it would be them.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#434 » by drew881 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 4:12 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Was listening to Lowepost last night. No rumor, just discussion of concepts.

Given where GSW is with Wiggins and Philly is with SImmons, it does seem like a Simmons for Wiggins/Wiseman/Kuminga deal could make sense for both clubs. It isn't perfect for Philly, but it is at least value. And GSW really does need to think out of the box, if their goal is get back to the Finals.


I think you'd need a 3rd team where you could move Wiseman and Kuminga for a good but not great player. Because I think Philly would have essentially no use for Wiseman and very little use for Kuminga. Something like:

Philly gets: Wiggins and Buddy Hield
Warriors get: Simmons
Kings get: Wiseman and Kuminga


Is Simmons vaccinated? That would be icing on the cake if he couldn’t go to his preferred CA destinations for not getting the vaccine.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#435 » by emunney » Sat Oct 2, 2021 4:46 am

I don't think it's unwise for a other teams to be tentative about a guy who melted down and then pointed his finger at everybody else on the way out the door. Good time to act if you really want him, but seems like nobody wants him more than Philly right now.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#436 » by Jez2983 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 5:06 am

emunney wrote:I don't think it's unwise for a other teams to be tentative about a guy who melted down and then pointed his finger at everybody else on the way out the door. Good time to act if you really want him, but seems like nobody wants him more than Philly right now.


McCollum and filler looks pretty good right now.

I know he doesnt do it as a play maker, but freeing up Simmons salary slot gives them future options.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#437 » by tedbrogen » Sat Oct 2, 2021 5:38 am

emunney wrote:I don't think it's unwise for a other teams to be tentative about a guy who melted down and then pointed his finger at everybody else on the way out the door. Good time to act if you really want him, but seems like nobody wants him more than Philly right now.


Nobody wants Simmons as much as Philly wants back for him in their odd effort to save face.

The thing everyone is missing in all this is it has to be remedied by 12/25 so Philly can go after another Xmas Day Champs banner.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#438 » by Milbucks96 » Sat Oct 2, 2021 6:54 am

emunney wrote:I don't think it's unwise for a other teams to be tentative about a guy who melted down and then pointed his finger at everybody else on the way out the door. Good time to act if you really want him, but seems like nobody wants him more than Philly right now.

Timberwolves and their fans seem to want him really bad, I feel Indiana would love to get him for Brogdon and filler. The way I see it is everybody is trying to lowball the **** outta Philly because they feel like Philly has no leverage, but Philly is using the only leverage they have left which is 4(!!!) years left on his deal. Philly is probably trying to get him to come in and go through the motions while the wolves, trailblazers(CJ not Dame) and pacers start off slow and get what they want before the deadline.
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#439 » by DrWood » Sat Oct 2, 2021 7:54 am

RESPERT wrote:I'm oddly entertained by the Wizards' long, random list of bigs

Rui
Gafford
Bertans
Kuzma
Harrel
Bryant
Gill
Todd

reminds me of the hammond era teams where we were all fooled into thinking there must be one more move coming to balance the roster

The difference is you usually want the long guys as defenders, and Gafford might be the only + defender, and will he play a lot?
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Re: ATL - Camps Open 9/28 

Post#440 » by DrWood » Sat Oct 2, 2021 7:56 am

Milbucks96 wrote:
emunney wrote:I don't think it's unwise for a other teams to be tentative about a guy who melted down and then pointed his finger at everybody else on the way out the door. Good time to act if you really want him, but seems like nobody wants him more than Philly right now.

Timberwolves and their fans seem to want him really bad, I feel Indiana would love to get him for Brogdon and filler. The way I see it is everybody is trying to lowball the **** outta Philly because they feel like Philly has no leverage, but Philly is using the only leverage they have left which is 4(!!!) years left on his deal. Philly is probably trying to get him to come in and go through the motions while the wolves, trailblazers(CJ not Dame) and pacers start off slow and get what they want before the deadline.

the problem for most teams is making the $ match, without adding bad contracts that Philly wouldn't want.

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