Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[sixers4real]

Morey's idea, and the onlynone that makes sense, is to wait until a star request a trade. We are not going to get much value otherwise, because teams that want to get Simmons probably want to also get better, i.e. they need to win the trade, so they are not going to offer much. No team is going to offer much willingly.

Agree.

That’s why the alternative deal is about getting appreciating assets so time can be on our side, and when those kind of opportunities come, we’d be ready.

1.) young players with upside
2.) picks
3.) players who’d look better on our team

This. At this point I think we have a better chance at getting a star when they request if we’ve already completed a Simmons trade sooner rather than later and nailed this criteria

Do you consider Halliburton or Edwards a star player? Because I would gladly take one of them without them requesting a trade

[Sportfan73]

Agree.

That’s why the alternative deal is about getting appreciating assets so time can be on our side, and when those kind of opportunities come, we’d be ready.

1.) young players with upside
2.) picks
3.) players who’d look better on our team

This. At this point I think we have a better chance at getting a star when they request if we’ve already completed a Simmons trade sooner rather than later and nailed this criteria

Do you consider Halliburton or Edwards a star player? Because I would gladly take one of them without them requesting a trade

Value wise they are close yeah. I would love either one. I don’t know what it is but fox just seems more likely to me with Sac now that they have decent thinking people there

[Sportfan73]

Haliburton is like getting a young high potential Brogdon to me I would be all for it. The potential fit with Maxey is great. The flexibility to add players that fit with him would be great as well

[DCasey91]

Real Sixer fans vs Ben fans from down unda. I feel for the Sixers fans here.

I get why they like him, given they apparently share his tendency to say and do dumb things and get upset when people point out how delusional he is.

Ehhh, can’t speak for the Aussies on this board, but as someone who’s lived in Australia since I was 15, I don’t think that’s the case at all. Most Aussie nba fans I know don’t really **** with him. It’s true that Aussie’s love sport and love their athletes, but they tend to gravitate towards the “battlers”. The overachievers. Guys like Patty Mills and Joe Ingles who are basically national treasures here, yet the perception of Simmons here is that he’s a coddled brat who can’t handle criticism.

Not even top 5:

Andrew GOAT Gaze
Patty Fiba Mills
Average Joe Ingles
Luc Bongley... I mean Longley
Matisse Hes really an Aussie Thybulle
Andrew taught Green defense Bogut

Ben is barely Barnes tier lol

[mzfk69]

If Im trading with the Spurs, I want Primo, Keldon, Vassell, Thad and picks.

I’d then let Murray and Ben, self destruct the Spurs squad to get me pick. I’d let Keldon and Vassell fill the hole at my SF depth and let Thad be back-up for Tobi. I’d also let my guards (milton, maxey, seth, kork) have more greenlight on offense.

Im not taking Murray because he doesnt fit our team
Im not taking White because he’s overlapping with some of my guards. Im not paying their high price tag for guys i dont need.

Im taking Primo because he’s an appreciating asset. He possibly can be the best player in this deal.

Im taking Vassell and Keldon because not only are they appreciating asset but what they provide can move needle with the big hole i have at SF. Spurs should also be more willing to trade them because of Ben’s arrival to their team.

I’ll only take Murray if I can ship him for Cam Thomas. Or Jordan Poole and a pick or Quickly and a pick. If Pacers is looking at this season as a lost year, then I’d trade Murray for Brogdon while enjoying the picks from the Spurs.

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[76ciology]

If Im trading with the Spurs, I want Primo, Keldon, Vassell, Thad and picks.

I’d then let Murray and Ben, self destruct the Spurs squad to get me pick. I’d let Keldon and Vassell fill the hole at my SF depth and let Thad be back-up for Tobi. I’d also let my guards (milton, maxey, seth, kork) have more greenlight on offense.

Im not taking Murray because he doesnt fit our team
Im not taking White because he’s overlapping with some of my guards. Im not paying their high price tag for guys i dont need.

Im taking Primo because he’s an appreciating asset. He possibly can be the best player in this deal.

Im taking Vassell and Keldon because not only are they appreciating asset but what they provide can move needle with the big hole i have at SF. Spurs should also be more willing to trade them because of Ben’s arrival to their team.

I’ll only take Murray if I can ship him for Cam Thomas. Or Jordan Poole and a pick or Quickly and a pick. If Pacers is looking at this season as a lost year, then I’d trade Murray for Brogdon while enjoying the picks from the Spurs.

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Ok. Not gonna beg hard for a mere 3&D player just give us another pick then

[mzfk69]

If Im trading with the Spurs, I want Primo, Keldon, Vassell, Thad and picks.

I’d then let Murray and Ben, self destruct the Spurs squad to get me pick. I’d let Keldon and Vassell fill the hole at my SF depth and let Thad be back-up for Tobi. I’d also let my guards (milton, maxey, seth, kork) have more greenlight on offense.

Im not taking Murray because he doesnt fit our team
Im not taking White because he’s overlapping with some of my guards. Im not paying their high price tag for guys i dont need.

Im taking Primo because he’s an appreciating asset. He possibly can be the best player in this deal.

Im taking Vassell and Keldon because not only are they appreciating asset but what they provide can move needle with the big hole i have at SF. Spurs should also be more willing to trade them because of Ben’s arrival to their team.

I’ll only take Murray if I can ship him for Cam Thomas. Or Jordan Poole and a pick or Quickly and a pick. If Pacers is looking at this season as a lost year, then I’d trade Murray for Brogdon while enjoying the picks from the Spurs.

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Ok. Not gonna beg hard for a mere 3&D player just give us another pick then

That would be a robbery on our part, so you'd better keep Ben.

[sixers4real]

I don’t get the Spurs as a potential trade partner, like at all.
Murray’s and White’s shooting numbers most probably does not impress Morey. Their other young kids won’t help us win now, and Spurs won’t give unprotected picks and swaps.

Makes absolutely no sense to me.

[76ciology]

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Ok. Not gonna beg hard for a mere 3&D player just give us another pick then

That would be a robbery on our part, so you'd better keep Ben.

Hahaha how is it a robbery, none of the guys you are giving will ever be allstars. And Ben is not just an allstar but also an All NBA player. Sure he can go renegade but he’s still under contract.

If we want Keldon Johnson or Vassell, we can just draft one with a mid to low first round pick. Probably get us ever a better player than Murray or White.

[76ciology]

Think about it.

If Dejounte Murray is so good, then why do the Spurs prefer to trade him over a young 3&D prospect in Keldon Johnson?

If those players Spurs are looking to trade are so valuable, then why is there no league wide interest and no trade talks about these guys? While you have a handful of teams calling us on Ben.

[mzfk69]

Ok. Not gonna beg hard for a mere 3&D player just give us another pick then

That would be a robbery on our part, so you'd better keep Ben.

Hahaha how is it a robbery, none of the guys you are giving will ever be allstars. And Ben is not just an allstar but also an All NBA player. Sure he can go renegade but he’s still under contract.

If we want Keldon Johnson or Vassell, we can just draft one with a mid to low first round pick. Probably get us ever a better player than Murray or White.

1) You just misunderstood my message and missed who would become a robber in such a trade.
2) Yes, you have already chosen a similar player, but in the summer he played in the finals for the Suns, and the one you got in return is now sitting without a contract.
3) Ben got into the All-NBA because Kyrie and Steph missed almost the entire season. But even if we assume that this is not the case and Simmons is a superstar, then just keep this dominator to yourself.
4) Predictions about the players' upside without watching games is a serious level of discussion. Respect.

[Tomjas]

If Im trading with the Spurs, I want Primo, Keldon, Vassell, Thad and picks.

I’d then let Murray and Ben, self destruct the Spurs squad to get me pick. I’d let Keldon and Vassell fill the hole at my SF depth and let Thad be back-up for Tobi. I’d also let my guards (milton, maxey, seth, kork) have more greenlight on offense.

Im not taking Murray because he doesnt fit our team
Im not taking White because he’s overlapping with some of my guards. Im not paying their high price tag for guys i dont need.

Im taking Primo because he’s an appreciating asset. He possibly can be the best player in this deal.

Im taking Vassell and Keldon because not only are they appreciating asset but what they provide can move needle with the big hole i have at SF. Spurs should also be more willing to trade them because of Ben’s arrival to their team.

I’ll only take Murray if I can ship him for Cam Thomas. Or Jordan Poole and a pick or Quickly and a pick. If Pacers is looking at this season as a lost year, then I’d trade Murray for Brogdon while enjoying the picks from the Spurs.

Great

Simmons/Murray/White would put 40+ on our munchkins

Do you know that they are BIG and much better at every aspect of the game

Simmons v Maxey is an absurd mismatch

Same with Murray against Seth

That’s 2 HUGE all nba defenders against bench players

[Kobblehead]

I don't want Keldon Johnson. Also, how can he be 3&D if he doesn't shoot or generate any steals or blocks?

[MVP1992]

Not even top 5:

Andrew GOAT Gaze
Patty Fiba Mills
Average Joe Ingles
Luc Bongley... I mean Longley
Matisse Hes really an Aussie Thybulle
Andrew taught Green defense Bogut

Ben is barely Barnes tier lol

Kyrie Irving was born in Australia. But no-one here really knows it.

[spikeslovechild]

Agree.

That’s why the alternative deal is about getting appreciating assets so time can be on our side, and when those kind of opportunities come, we’d be ready.

1.) young players with upside
2.) picks
3.) players who’d look better on our team

This. At this point I think we have a better chance at getting a star when they request if we’ve already completed a Simmons trade sooner rather than later and nailed this criteria

Do you consider Halliburton or Edwards a star player? Because I would gladly take one of them without them requesting a trade

I don't consider Haliburton equal to Edwards as prospects. I'd take Edwards in a second. Halliburton I'd probably want more I mean at the very worst Morey turned down Brogdon plus a first which I honestly would prefer.

Furthermore due to Haliburton salary we can't trade for him without taking someone else close to making max money back. Who is that player? I mean it probably has to be Hield or Barnes.

[Kobblehead]

I don't consider Haliburton equal to Edwards as prospects. I'd take Edwards in a second. Halliburton I'd probably want more I mean at the very worst Morey turned down Brogdon plus a first which I honestly would prefer.

Furthermore due to Haliburton salary we can't trade for him without taking someone else close to making max money back. Who is that player? I mean it probably has to be Hield or Barnes.

Agreed. Haliburton is an awesome, winning piece than can dribble, shoot, pass, and defend. But, I'm not sure if he's a guy that can carry an offense as a #1 option. There's no question Anthony Edwards can.

Haliburton is basically Lonzo Ball with slightly better dribble drive. Edwards is a legit superstar in the making.

[sixers4real]

I don't consider Haliburton equal to Edwards as prospects. I'd take Edwards in a second. Halliburton I'd probably want more I mean at the very worst Morey turned down Brogdon plus a first which I honestly would prefer.

Furthermore due to Haliburton salary we can't trade for him without taking someone else close to making max money back. Who is that player? I mean it probably has to be Hield or Barnes.

Agreed. Haliburton is an awesome, winning piece than can dribble, shoot, pass, and defend. But, I'm not sure if he's a guy that can carry an offense as a #1 option. There's no question Anthony Edwards can.

Maxey - Halliburton/Edwards - Thybulle intrigues me a lot in 2-3 years.

So yeah, I’d gladly take either one of them for Simmons.

[Madd Squabbles]

I am expecting somewhere like 4-6 seed as it’s a pretty thin lineup until Simmons is replaced

Really don’t want to watch Drummond play

Gotta say those who think all of the sudden in mid December teams will come ready to trade their borderline all star or all star level players are just not getting it. The more into the season the more we probably get picks

Some team will have their Butler in Minnesota moment. If the Pels start 2-9 they'll get desperate, as will the Kings or Bulls etc. Morey just has to hold fort until that moment of weakness for a franchise hits and then be ready to negotiate the swap deal of his life.

Pels will get desperate to do what? Trade Ingram for a player that is not as good as Ingram, not a good fit, refuses to shoot, has mental issues and wants to be the focal point of the team? Take off the Sixers glasses for a moment and think like you are the GM for the Pels. knowing what you know about Simmons would YOU trade Ingram for him?

[Sixerscan]

Real Sixer fans vs Ben fans from down unda. I feel for the Sixers fans here.

I get why they like him, given they apparently share his tendency to say and do dumb things and get upset when people point out how delusional he is.

Ehhh, can’t speak for the Aussies on this board, but as someone who’s lived in Australia since I was 15, I don’t think that’s the case at all. Most Aussie nba fans I know don’t really **** with him. It’s true that Aussie’s love sport and love their athletes, but they tend to gravitate towards the “battlers”. The overachievers. Guys like Patty Mills and Joe Ingles who are basically national treasures here, yet the perception of Simmons here is that he’s a coddled brat who can’t handle criticism.

To be clear i was talking about the few people on here still blindly defending him, not people from Australia.

[Stanford]

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