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babyjax13 wrote:Laimbeer wrote:Is there a Detroit deal to be made? Cade is a no, and Hayes doesn't help the Sixers. Is anything around Grant and Olynyk close?
I think Grant + Olynyk would be a reasonable offer, probably add a well-protected 1st, say 2024 1st (1-14, 1-10, 1-8, 2nd).
jbk1234 wrote:That would be foolish. The season is starting. They need to lineup the follow up trade now and just make it a three team trade.babyjax13 wrote:Tomjas wrote:
Sixers need a primary ball handler
Do a follow up trade. What they need to do is extract as much value as they can from a trade. I'm not sure this trade would be it, but I do think it'd be a competitive offer.
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JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
Godaddycurse wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Laimbeer wrote:Is there a Detroit deal to be made? Cade is a no, and Hayes doesn't help the Sixers. Is anything around Grant and Olynyk close?
I think Grant + Olynyk would be a reasonable offer, probably add a well-protected 1st, say 2024 1st (1-14, 1-10, 1-8, 2nd).
They would have to unprotect their pick to Houston which would be REALLY risky
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
A third choice might be a trade with a different team that isn't sending them back front court players when they've already got a ton of money tied up there and have pretty clear needs in the back court.babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:That would be foolish. The season is starting. They need to lineup the follow up trade now and just make it a three team trade.babyjax13 wrote:
Do a follow up trade. What they need to do is extract as much value as they can from a trade. I'm not sure this trade would be it, but I do think it'd be a competitive offer.
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If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:That would be foolish. The season is starting. They need to lineup the follow up trade now and just make it a three team trade.babyjax13 wrote:
Do a follow up trade. What they need to do is extract as much value as they can from a trade. I'm not sure this trade would be it, but I do think it'd be a competitive offer.
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If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
jbk1234 wrote:A third choice might be a trade with a different team that isn't sending them back front court players when they've already got a ton of money tied up there and have pretty clear needs in the back court.babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:That would be foolish. The season is starting. They need to lineup the follow up trade now and just make it a three team trade.
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If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
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JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
Tomjas wrote:babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:That would be foolish. The season is starting. They need to lineup the follow up trade now and just make it a three team trade.
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If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
It’s not what Morey is after and that’s why no trade has happened
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
babyjax13 wrote:Tomjas wrote:babyjax13 wrote:
If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
It’s not what Morey is after and that’s why no trade has happened
Or no one is going to offer what Morey wants, and so he's either going to have to move Simmons for what is reasonably available, or continue playing chicken.
babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:A third choice might be a trade with a different team that isn't sending them back front court players when they've already got a ton of money tied up there and have pretty clear needs in the back court.babyjax13 wrote:
If the choice is no Ben Simmons, or some help instead of Ben Simmons, I think you take the help even if you have to do a bit of reshuffling afterward.
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If they trade Simmons I think they'll want a starting caliber small forward, too. Unless Thybulle's offense improves I think his 20-24mpg role is best, and Green is getting up there in age.
Ballerhogger wrote:babyjax13 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:A third choice might be a trade with a different team that isn't sending them back front court players when they've already got a ton of money tied up there and have pretty clear needs in the back court.
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If they trade Simmons I think they'll want a starting caliber small forward, too. Unless Thybulle's offense improves I think his 20-24mpg role is best, and Green is getting up there in age.
green was -24 today 0 -0--0 10m... i mean its pre season game but its concerning some what. Thy was no show as well 10 min 0-3 from the field.
Tomjas wrote:Ballerhogger wrote:babyjax13 wrote:
If they trade Simmons I think they'll want a starting caliber small forward, too. Unless Thybulle's offense improves I think his 20-24mpg role is best, and Green is getting up there in age.
green was -24 today 0 -0--0 10m... i mean its pre season game but its concerning some what. Thy was no show as well 10 min 0-3 from the field.
No primary ball handler will do that
blackham9258 wrote:Jazz Trade:
Bojan Bogdonovic & Jordan Clarkson
For
Ben Simmons & Tyrese Maxey
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
The Cavs aren't trading three unprotected picks and two sets of swap rights. They've been a 20 win team three seasons in a row and Simmons isn't prime LBJ.Godaddycurse wrote:Anyone did this version before?
Cleveland out: Love, 2022 1st, 2024 1st, 2026 1st, 2023/2025 swaps
Cleveland in: Simmons
Houston out: Wall, one of their late 1st or 3x seconds?
Houston in: Love, 2x philly min fillers
Philly out: Simmons, 2 fillers
Philly in: Wall, CLE 2022/2024/2026 1sts, 2023/2025 swaps, late 1st or 2nds from HOU
Why for Cleveland: keep their current core at the expense of picks to make playoffs and possibly more?
Why for Houston: save money
Why for Philly: get a fill in PG with bunch of potentially juicy picks
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Cavs need Boughknight here or cut them out. We're not starting Cedi.GoBobs wrote:Hornets: Hayward and pelicans 1st for Simmons
Cavs: Sexton for Pelicans 1st, Philly 1st
Sixers: Simmons, 1st for Hayward, Sexton
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