PG: The Scottie Barnes Experience

[Madhouse]

Flynn might just be a bust (as much of a bust as you can get from the 29th pick). Banton might be ready enough to take his pg minutes and if not, Svi easily could (with Dragic playing back up pg)

Think it's too early for Flynn. He has shown some flashes already.

[Madhouse]

I don't see our team getting significantly better until we get a real #1 option and then Siakam can go back to his strength of being the #2/3.

My guess is we will end up with ~30 something wins.

Edit: I meant thirty-something.

Don't think Siakam will be there if that happens. I think Masai wants to build up his trade value along with Fred and others and then trade those for a disgruntled #1 option similar to Kawhi.

I am not sure exactly how many games the Raptors will win but I think it's a transition year of letting young players like OG, Scottie and Precious develop and build up trade values.

I wouldn't be surprised if we make the playoffs though.

[gp2015]

I don't see our team getting significantly better until we get a real #1 option and then Siakam can go back to his strength of being the #2/3.

My guess is we will end up with ~30 something wins.

Edit: I meant thirty-something.

Don't think Siakam will be there if that happens. I think Masai wants to build up his trade value along with Fred and others and then trade those for a disgruntled #1 option similar to Kawhi.

I am not sure exactly how many games the Raptors will win but I think it's a transition year of letting young players like OG, Scottie and Precious develop and build up trade values.

I wouldn't be surprised if we make the playoffs though.

I would be okay with that. I'm not attached to either Pascal or FVV. They would both avaiable for the right deal if it were up to me.

Although,if we were able to miraculously get a true #1, I would be curious if Pascal can return to his Finals form.

[Tor_Raps]

We out rebounded them 57-40 today. What do we even need a centre for? If we can out gang rebound opponents and contest shots at the rim with our length, every team with a big will have a hard time matching up with us.

Drummond kind of had his way with us though.

You realize if its not pre-season we would just pick and roll him off the court right?

You realize it would be Embiid in there and he would put up 40/15 in his sleep right? Lol

[Johnny Bball]

Drummond kind of had his way with us though.

You realize if its not pre-season we would just pick and roll him off the court right?

You realize it would be Embiid in there and he would put up 40/15 in his sleep right? Lol

I'm sorry... I was unaware his name was Andre Embiid. Or that we were disucssing a near MVP.

[TheRealDeal]

I agree with everyone saying he should continue to showboat and bring energy and be himself, but taunt AFTER the basket! I just think antics like these could lead to silly missed baskets or slipups. I agree that kind of swag and stuff gets into the opponent's head, but when the time is right.

I know what you mean but anyone can showboat after a made bucket. Doing it in the middle of a play is more impactful and memorable bc you’re risking making a fool out of yourself

Like Trae doing a shimmy before draining an open 3, Harden doing some crazy dribbling before dropping a step back 3, MJ sticking his tongue out & switching hands in mid air or taking a FT with his eyes closed and Curry running away after throwing up a shot bc he knows it’s in

Those are classic moments that take cojones

[NBA Sheady]

I agree with everyone saying he should continue to showboat and bring energy and be himself, but taunt AFTER the basket! I just think antics like these could lead to silly missed baskets or slipups. I agree that kind of swag and stuff gets into the opponent's head, but when the time is right.

Bingo!

This is what I'm not liking about it.

[Tor_Raps]

You realize if its not pre-season we would just pick and roll him off the court right?

You realize it would be Embiid in there and he would put up 40/15 in his sleep right? Lol

I'm sorry... I was unaware his name was Andre Embiid. Or that we were disucssing a near MVP.

I thought we were going off the original comment of us not needing a center lol.

[niQ]

Absolutely loved the line up of Barnes, Banton, Svi, Yuta, and Champagnie.

[Vorticity]

I mean that look back made sense. We hot the ball and was not going full speed a guy could easily be coming full truck to chase down block if Scottie goes up without looking. He looks back to see just how much energy he needs to exert or if he should pump fake to draw a foul/finish with contact

"It was a vet move"

[ATLTimekeeper]

Hot takes:

-Precious too small to play C and doesn't make good decisions to take away space. Really exciting offensive skillset, though.
-Barnes did what we expect him to do. About as "as advertised" as it gets.
-OG bullied Thybulle. Gave him a big 'FU for taking my all-defense votes.'
-Fred and Dragic, took the veteran's way to pre-season.
-Champagnie, looked like he wanted someone's job.
-Yuta, also looked like he wanted someone's job.
-Banton, flashes but some stupid risks.
-David Johnson, flashes but looked like he struggled with his balance.
-Flynn, handle wasn't doing him any favours.
-Gillespie, worried that he might have the McCaw effect on Nurse.
-Bonga, one nice drive and then seemed really out to lunch after that,
-Dekker, scored right away, but seems pretty weak.
-Mykailiuk, pretty much a perfect night. Played well enough to the point where he started doing things he shouldn't do.
-Alvin, more insight than Jack and Leo's last decade combined. I was skeptical at first, but he came out firing.

Philly's chances

-Glad we didn't settle for Maxey. He's a dime a dozen head down scorer. I'm sure he'll be fine, but Precious looks like he has several ways to become a big-time player for us.
-Reed was a disaster in a good way (for Philly). Really slowed down our offense, but he also was just reckless out there with his body. Refs need to protect players when someone's causing that many collisions.
-Seth Curry has really turned into a nice player. After Embiid he's probably their 2nd MVP, not in terms of skill but in terms of being someone they can't afford to lose to injury.
-Drummond remains one of the dumbest players in the league.
-Isaiah Joe was launching bombs. He's going to be in the league for a while.

[Johnny Bball]

You realize it would be Embiid in there and he would put up 40/15 in his sleep right? Lol

I'm sorry... I was unaware his name was Andre Embiid. Or that we were disucssing a near MVP.

I thought we were going off the original comment of us not needing a center lol.

I'm happy putting Precious up against him (AD) and scoring with ease in the PNR or in transition. Didn't see the first comment about not needing or having a C I guess. I consider PA a C.

[Vorticity]

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[OakleyDokely]

Some rookie performances from last night:

SUGGS: 21 MIN, 9 PTS (3-11), 4 REB, 3 AST, 2 BLK

WAGNER: 22 MIN, 16 PTS (5-9), 2 REB, 1 STL

MURPHY III: 30 MIN, 21 PTS (6-10), 6 REB

BOUKNIGHT: 21 MIN, 20 PTS (7-12), 4 REB, 2 AST,

GIDDEY: 29 MIN, 18 PTS (8-12), 7 REB, 3 AST

PRIMO: 18 MIN, 17 PTS (7-8), 1 AST, 1 BLK

KUMINGA: 11 MIN, 5 PTS (2-6), 2 REB, 1 STL

MOODY: 9 MIN, 0 PTS (0-1), 2 REB, 2 AST

MITCHELL: 24 MIN, 7 PTS (3-8), 3 AST, 2 STL

[raptor jesus]

I think it's become overly trendy to compare guys to PJ Tucker, but Champagnie really does remind me of him. Big man in college who plays bigger than his height in the NBA, has vise grips for hands. If his jumper is real, he'll stick in the league for a while. If he can also develop a handle, he'll be really good.

[Tor_Raps]

I'm sorry... I was unaware his name was Andre Embiid. Or that we were disucssing a near MVP.

I thought we were going off the original comment of us not needing a center lol.

I'm happy putting Precious up against him (AD) and scoring with ease in the PNR or in transition. Didn't see the first comment about not needing or having a C I guess. I consider PA a C.

Ya both him and Birch are centers but they will both really struggle with strong centers. They really lack the strength to body players around the paint and defend the post.

I understand both will provide great agility/speed to help offset that in the regular season. I think we should go after a 3rd center who can provide that look when we need it.

[bape_lovers]

no 3rd string center can go toe to toe defensively with the likes of Embiid or Jokic tbh, Freedie if gets signned will be there just to foul them

I thought we were going off the original comment of us not needing a center lol.

I'm happy putting Precious up against him (AD) and scoring with ease in the PNR or in transition. Didn't see the first comment about not needing or having a C I guess. I consider PA a C.

Ya both him and Birch are centers but they will both really struggle with strong centers. They really lack the strength to body players around the paint and defend the post.

I understand both will provide great agility/speed to help offset that in the regular season. I think we should go after a 3rd center who can provide that look when we need it.

[Mikistan]

Im not a fan of Gille as a prospect - i think he is a step slow most of the time and looks like he is bumping into/falling down a lot

That being said, Gille (with Boucher) are like the only two shot-blockers at the C position we have on the team - yes a lot of the 6'9'' guys can get blocks, but Gille i think surprises a lot of players with his ability to block shots and we dont have a lot of that to funnel guys into the block for our defense

[Johnny Bball]

I thought we were going off the original comment of us not needing a center lol.

I'm happy putting Precious up against him (AD) and scoring with ease in the PNR or in transition. Didn't see the first comment about not needing or having a C I guess. I consider PA a C.

Ya both him and Birch are centers but they will both really struggle with strong centers. They really lack the strength to body players around the paint and defend the post.

I understand both will provide great agility/speed to help offset that in the regular season. I think we should go after a 3rd center who can provide that look when we need it.

That's OG imo.

[OakleyDokely]

How the hell did Thybulle make an all defensive team and OG didn't?