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harlem_ball wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:harlem_ball wrote:
Do the Nets really need that much production from the 2 guard spot?
Yes. We want blow people out by 30 points a night
Boring.
ecuhus1981 wrote:harlem_ball wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Yes. We want blow people out by 30 points a night
Boring.
Yup, just like like no one watched the Dream Team.
Who are you again?
HardenGoat wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:HardenGoat wrote:Myocarditis is an inflammatory condition of the heart and can occur when a virus causes a sudden demand on the immune system. Unvaccinated people are the most at risk. Aldridge does not have an organic heart problem (heart muscle, valves, etc), he has an electrical conduction feedback loop disorder which he most likely elected for eblation treatment to correct (he probably has avoided this for years choosing medication to control). I have seen young patients succumb to virus induced myocarditis and become vegetables living in long term care facilities as a result. Kyrie himself would be most at risk although Aldridge would still be a higher risk than the rest of the players. Having him unvaccinated is a risk to everyone and it's sad he is trying to set an example that is opposite what is best for society regardless of race.
Thanks for the breakdown and pointing out the distinction between LMA's condition.
Also, that's absolutely terrifying. Question: Is this the reason why COVID patients who are deathly ill end up having to go on ECMO machines or nah?
The reason unvaccinated people are more at risk of adverse effects is due to the initial lack of an immune response to what is a new (novel) virus. The virus replicates quickly and unchecked. When the immune system finally does respond it does so at a level that causes systemic inflammation (realize inflammation is part of the normal response and it is beneficial when in a local area). Systemic inflammation can overwhelm vital organs which in turn become inflammed - lungs, heart, kidneys, etc. Breathing support and oxygenation help the lung condition. What the vaccine does is it helps the immune system to respond predictably and at a more controlled level. This lessens the chance a person has a systemic response. This is what is overwhelming our hospitals and ICU's. The arguments against the vaccine that use binary data miss what is really happening here (ie. Doesn't prevent disease therefore I won't take it, or I'am healthy I don't need it, or natural immunity is better etc) . It's true healthier and younger people with normal immune systems are less at risk to die or be hospitalized but they are taking a chance, we are seeing people hospitalized and damaged by this virus that were previously very healthy and fit. The common denominator is they are unvaccinated. Getting everyone vaccinated is critical to controlling this pandemic and easing the burden on our health care system. I'll leave it at that. I can go into depth on why diabetics are such a high risk and how age affects our immune response (including children) but that doesn't change the guidelines we have in place.
Prokorov wrote:ajones9219 wrote:Paradise wrote:So, when Kyrie does take the vaccine or anyone else in life….are you all going to take back the ignorant, vile and childish insults thrown at them on a consistent basis?
Or
Will some of you admit, you are internet thugs and couldn’t even hold a candle to that same level of ridicule and pressure in your own life?
Is it bullying to ask that a player making millions of dollars give the bare minimum and get a shot to be available for his team?
A racist Boston fan obviously wouldnt care about telling a black man what to do with his body and calling it the "minimum"
i know it sucks not to be able to control every black person. maybe go back to the boston forum and cry with other racists regarding that
MrDollarBills wrote:
and Kyrie just set our season on fire. I hope you're happy Prok.
MrDollarBills wrote:It's crazy how someone who has had multiple surgeries that involved anesthesia, something that we didn't fully know how it worked until LAST YEAR if my memory serves me correctly, is sitting here thinking the that someone wants to poison him with a harmless vaccine. Or plant a microchip in him in a satanic plot. Jesus Christ.
So he trusts doctors to put him under, fix his knees and shoulders, but getting a harmless inoculation that is out of your system in hours is where he draws the line.
I like Kyrie man, but he's a f*cking deluded moron who thinks he's smarter than he really is. Every single thing that Cleveland and Boston fans said about him has come to fruition.
MrDollarBills wrote:It's crazy how someone who has had multiple surgeries that involved anesthesia, something that we didn't fully know how it worked until LAST YEAR if my memory serves me correctly, is sitting here thinking the that someone wants to poison him with a harmless vaccine. Or plant a microchip in him in a satanic plot. Jesus Christ.
So he trusts doctors to put him under, fix his knees and shoulders, but getting a harmless inoculation that is out of your system in hours is where he draws the line.
I like Kyrie man, but he's a f*cking deluded moron who thinks he's smarter than he really is. Every single thing that Cleveland and Boston fans said about him has come to fruition.
ajones9219 wrote:Prokorov wrote:ajones9219 wrote:Is it bullying to ask that a player making millions of dollars give the bare minimum and get a shot to be available for his team?
A racist Boston fan obviously wouldnt care about telling a black man what to do with his body and calling it the "minimum"
i know it sucks not to be able to control every black person. maybe go back to the boston forum and cry with other racists regarding that
Lol it's advantageous to my team for Kyrie not to get the vaccine. I still believe he should get it as I believe everyone should get it and I think he's quitting on his team and it WILL sour his relationship with KD no matter what you believe. What I don't have tolerance for is your baseless accusation of racism. That's vile and you should be ashamed.
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
haosmoove wrote:Let's not jump off the cliff yet. Let's wait and see how this plays out before panicking. There are a lot of pressure (financially, peers, fans, etc) on him getting a vaccine, he may eventually cave.
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:It's crazy how someone who has had multiple surgeries that involved anesthesia, something that we didn't fully know how it worked until LAST YEAR if my memory serves me correctly, is sitting here thinking the that someone wants to poison him with a harmless vaccine. Or plant a microchip in him in a satanic plot. Jesus Christ.
So he trusts doctors to put him under, fix his knees and shoulders, but getting a harmless inoculation that is out of your system in hours is where he draws the line.
I like Kyrie man, but he's a f*cking deluded moron who thinks he's smarter than he really is. Every single thing that Cleveland and Boston fans said about him has come to fruition.
GQ Hot Dog wrote:ajones9219 wrote:Prokorov wrote:
A racist Boston fan obviously wouldnt care about telling a black man what to do with his body and calling it the "minimum"
i know it sucks not to be able to control every black person. maybe go back to the boston forum and cry with other racists regarding that
Lol it's advantageous to my team for Kyrie not to get the vaccine. I still believe he should get it as I believe everyone should get it and I think he's quitting on his team and it WILL sour his relationship with KD no matter what you believe. What I don't have tolerance for is your baseless accusation of racism. That's vile and you should be ashamed.
Just chiming in to agree that it is shameful for Prokorov to be throwing around unfounded accusations of racism.
He keeps saying things like "telling a black man what to do..." You respect a "black man" more than any other person? You're an embarrassment to humanity.
ecuhus1981 wrote:I'll say one thing in regards to the board conversation: I 100% agree with Prok's defense of Kyrie from a racial, generational trauma standpoint.
I'm an African American, I'm vaccinated and I strongly support the vaccine. I also strongly support the family of Henrietta Lacks, who if you don't know, you should look up sometime. The issue of public safety versus bodily autonomy is going to affect everyone differently, and some folks from our community are going to have an outsized, fear based reaction. I grant them grace, even when they are my favorite NBA player.
THAT SAID, I still believe that an Irving trade may be in our best interest, and honestly his as well. I don't say that out of anger or bitterness, I still respect Kyrie as a person as much as I ever did. It's just that our priorities don't seem to match, and and I'm no longer certain that that will change.
I totally respect Kyrie's choice if he wants to sit out the year with no pay. HIS BODY HIS CHOICE. As for the Nets, they will have to do whatever they seem fit. Take out the emotion from the equation and it's really a no-brainer for both parties.