Top 5 Deepest and Shallowest Teams in the League

[BugginOut]

Miami has a terrible bench. I don’t think any of their bench players would get any burn on any other playoff teams in the East except Herro. Also Oladipo is going to be hurt all season. They are really relying on Lowry, Butler and Bam to be healthy to competent

Herro, Oladipo, morris, tucker, dedmon
is not a terrible bench on paper. Oladipo is a wild card. Front court depth needs some work though.

Tucker is starting, Markieff Morris was terrible for the Lakers and Oladipo is out until the playoffs. They are relying on givinng Max Strus, Kz Okpala and Gabe Vincent major minutes. That’s a recipe for disaster

[Bornstellar]

Also lol @ the Knicks being 12 deep the only notable players on their bench are Rose and Quickley...

Threads like this remind me of how homerish posters can sound when talking about their own teams.

The Knicks are notably deep, the Mavs are notably shallow, the Spurs are notably irrelevant.

Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something? Bring something to the discussion or gtfo

[Crives]

Why does everyone think the Lakers are deep? Are you not watching their depth get blown out by phx and previously Brooklyn? Lakers are one of shallowest teams in the league.

[ShootersShoot]

Miami has a terrible bench. I don’t think any of their bench players would get any burn on any other playoff teams in the East except Herro. Also Oladipo is going to be hurt all season. They are really relying on Lowry, Butler and Bam to be healthy to competent

Herro, Oladipo, morris, tucker, dedmon
is not a terrible bench on paper. Oladipo is a wild card. Front court depth needs some work though.

Tucker is starting, Markieff Morris was terrible for the Lakers and Oladipo is out until the playoffs. They are relying on givinng Max Strus, Kz Okpala and Gabe Vincent major minutes. That’s a recipe for disaster

Oh wow, didnt realize Dipo was out that long

[_qubik]

Where's Utah, for deepest teams?

I can't see Denver being in deepest team given their loss of talent and injuries over the past 2 seasons.

Why care about Utah ? Every season same story, it doesnt even matter anymore, they will be great on yhe regular season and go home in the second round.

Denver have the personel, but I agree, they have injury issues, but it helps the case, because even without their second best player they were still a very tough team to beat

[RHODEY]

Also lol @ the Knicks being 12 deep the only notable players on their bench are Rose and Quickley...

Threads like this remind me of how homerish posters can sound when talking about their own teams.

The Knicks are notably deep, the Mavs are notably shallow, the Spurs are notably irrelevant.

Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something? Bring something to the discussion or gtfo

Lol apparently it did otherwise you wouldn't have forgotten that you don't run this board.

[giberish]

Memphis, Atlanta, NYK and Toronto looks solidly deep. An advantage of having a lot of lower paid youth.

The Lakers look very shallow baring some major fountain of youth action. GS has a lot of if in their rotation as well (more different types of if then the Lakers). Chicago seems a bit thin for a team trying to win-now without an elite guy.

The Nets depth is great by the standards of teams with two top-5 guys on the roster, but is overall about average. Denver and Mil used to have great depth but have gotten thinner as their cores have gotten older and more expensive. Phoenix has very good perimeter depth but questionable at best inside.

[JujitsuFlip]

Deepest Teams:
5. Miami Heat - 3 stars plus a ton of proven vets and young guys. If Oladipo can show any semblance of his old self then this team is 12 deep with really solid players.

I seen a few people touch on it but I have Miami's depth being a massive issue for them. Not sure where you got they're 12 deep, they're 6 to 8 deep, that's it.

Lowry/Vincent (63 career games)
Robinson/Herro/Strus (43 career games)
Butler/Okpala (44 career games)
Tucker/Morris/Haslem (41 years old)
Bam/Dedmon/Yurtseven (0 career games)

Oladipo is out for several months with a blown quad muscle again. Herro is literally the only reliable backup for the 1, 2, and 3 position.

[Scalabrine]

Shallowest Teams:
5. Golden State Warriors - Their top end talent is there but with Klays injury it seems like they are gonna be counting on Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody to all play big minutes. Juan Toscano Anderson is also in that mix as well. I still am unclear who the backup point guard is and guys like Iggy, Otto Porter, and Bjelica all have seen pretty sharp declines over the past season or two.

You're a little backwards here. When healthy the starters will be Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Draymond/Looney and the double digit regular minutes off the bench guys will be Poole/Iguodala/Porter/Bjelica with JTA and Lee possibly in that mix as well. Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody will all be fighting for minutes and if they win them great but none of them will be depended upon out the gate.

I dont think I have it backwards at all. Klay isn't gonna play the first half of the year and when he does he's a big unknown. Iguodala, Porter and Bjelica haven't had a good season in 2-3 years. Poole should make a jump and I think he's a dark horse MIP but that's still only 5-6 deep if you don't think the youngsters are gonna get minutes.

The difference between us is you think that bench is good, and I think it's overrated. Maybe they have a resurgance but I dont think they will.

[CobraCommander]

Deepest Teams:

1. Brooklyn Nets - Team has a ton of versatility and flexibility built around 2 Top 10 players and 1 Top 30. As of now, it's looking like Irving isn't gonna play, yet they still look like the best team in the East. They have a ton of proven vets that they can rely on at different roles and they should be able to rest guys or deal with injuries and still be fine.

2. Washington Wizards - They have a ton of depth but lack elite talent outside of Beal. But they are going 3 deep at most positions filled with trusted rotation players and Rui, Avdija, and Kispert are all young guys ready for minutes.

3. New York Knicks -
Robinson/Noel/Gibson
Randle/Toppin/Knox
Barrett/Burks/Grimes
Fournier/Rose/Bacon
Walker/Quickley/McBride

Thats 12 deep with players that could start on teams. A mix of veterans and young guys that play two way basketball and should be able to take an injury or two and still keep rolling, especially with Thibs sometimes preferring to play a short rotation if he can.

4. Denver Nuggets - We saw how impressive they were even after Murray went down and they didn't miss much of a beat. Surely they need Murray back to be legit contenders, but they should still be a top tier team in the West even without their 2nd best player and starting point guard. That speaks a ton to their depth.

5. Miami Heat - 3 stars plus a ton of proven vets and young guys. If Oladipo can show any semblance of his old self then this team is 12 deep with really solid players.

This...done...great job...lock the thread

[amcoolio]

Charlotte

Guards: Ball/Rozier/Bouknight/Ish

Wings:Hayward/Bridges/Washington/Oubre/McDaniels

Bigs: Plumlee/Kai Jones/Carey Jr

I'd argue that this a great setup for LaMelo, way better than what Dallas has around Luka

[Scalabrine]

Deepest Teams:

1. Brooklyn Nets - Team has a ton of versatility and flexibility built around 2 Top 10 players and 1 Top 30. As of now, it's looking like Irving isn't gonna play, yet they still look like the best team in the East. They have a ton of proven vets that they can rely on at different roles and they should be able to rest guys or deal with injuries and still be fine.

2. Washington Wizards - They have a ton of depth but lack elite talent outside of Beal. But they are going 3 deep at most positions filled with trusted rotation players and Rui, Avdija, and Kispert are all young guys ready for minutes.

3. New York Knicks -
Robinson/Noel/Gibson
Randle/Toppin/Knox
Barrett/Burks/Grimes
Fournier/Rose/Bacon
Walker/Quickley/McBride

Thats 12 deep with players that could start on teams. A mix of veterans and young guys that play two way basketball and should be able to take an injury or two and still keep rolling, especially with Thibs sometimes preferring to play a short rotation if he can.

4. Denver Nuggets - We saw how impressive they were even after Murray went down and they didn't miss much of a beat. Surely they need Murray back to be legit contenders, but they should still be a top tier team in the West even without their 2nd best player and starting point guard. That speaks a ton to their depth.

5. Miami Heat - 3 stars plus a ton of proven vets and young guys. If Oladipo can show any semblance of his old self then this team is 12 deep with really solid players.

no they don't

Our 3rd string C and 2nd string guard were both starting in the playoffs last year. Our 3rd string SG started 50 games. Maybe Toppin and Quickley wouldn't start but they are definitely deserving high minute rotation players at this point.

[Coeur]

Nugs being way under sold here. Being without Murray first half of season will prove why. Monte Morris will be more than fine as a starting pg for extended time and with Bones hyland prob filling 6th man role so well may make morris go from 1st string ro possibly 3rd upon Jamal Murray return.

PJ Dozier and Nnaji are both Studs and you have something in both Bolbol and Vlatko Cancar. How much time that 4 gets is questionable though when you have a group of rotation worthy Vets like Thrill Barton, jeff and Jamychycal Green. Facu and rivers in addition.

Oh yeh. A top of Jokic, Jamal, and 2 forwards like MpJ and AG?

That's the deepestteam in the league.

[beantownski]

Deepest Teams:

1. Brooklyn Nets - Team has a ton of versatility and flexibility built around 2 Top 10 players and 1 Top 30. As of now, it's looking like Irving isn't gonna play, yet they still look like the best team in the East. They have a ton of proven vets that they can rely on at different roles and they should be able to rest guys or deal with injuries and still be fine.

2. Washington Wizards - They have a ton of depth but lack elite talent outside of Beal. But they are going 3 deep at most positions filled with trusted rotation players and Rui, Avdija, and Kispert are all young guys ready for minutes.

3. New York Knicks -
Robinson/Noel/Gibson
Randle/Toppin/Knox
Barrett/Burks/Grimes
Fournier/Rose/Bacon
Walker/Quickley/McBride

Thats 12 deep with players that could start on teams. A mix of veterans and young guys that play two way basketball and should be able to take an injury or two and still keep rolling, especially with Thibs sometimes preferring to play a short rotation if he can.

4. Denver Nuggets - We saw how impressive they were even after Murray went down and they didn't miss much of a beat. Surely they need Murray back to be legit contenders, but they should still be a top tier team in the West even without their 2nd best player and starting point guard. That speaks a ton to their depth.

5. Miami Heat - 3 stars plus a ton of proven vets and young guys. If Oladipo can show any semblance of his old self then this team is 12 deep with really solid players.

no they don't

Our 3rd string C and 2nd string guard were both starting in the playoffs last year. Our 3rd string SG started 50 games. Maybe Toppin and Quickley wouldn't start but they are definitely deserving high minute rotation players at this point.

Guys starting because the real starter is injured doesn't make them starting material.

[Impuniti]

Shallowest Teams:
5. Golden State Warriors - Their top end talent is there but with Klays injury it seems like they are gonna be counting on Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody to all play big minutes. Juan Toscano Anderson is also in that mix as well. I still am unclear who the backup point guard is and guys like Iggy, Otto Porter, and Bjelica all have seen pretty sharp declines over the past season or two.

You're a little backwards here. When healthy the starters will be Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Draymond/Looney and the double digit regular minutes off the bench guys will be Poole/Iguodala/Porter/Bjelica with JTA and Lee possibly in that mix as well. Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody will all be fighting for minutes and if they win them great but none of them will be depended upon out the gate.

I dont think I have it backwards at all. Klay isn't gonna play the first half of the year and when he does he's a big unknown. Iguodala, Porter and Bjelica haven't had a good season in 2-3 years. Poole should make a jump and I think he's a dark horse MIP but that's still only 5-6 deep if you don't think the youngsters are gonna get minutes.

The difference between us is you think that bench is good, and I think it's overrated. Maybe they have a resurgance but I dont think they will.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The bench is significantly better than last season. Thinking Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman are going to all play big minutes as well. That unrealistic scenario happens if Kuminga and Moody are both essentially fighting for ROTY, and Wiseman improves significantly from last season.

[The-Power]

5. Golden State Warriors - Their top end talent is there but with Klays injury it seems like they are gonna be counting on Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody to all play big minutes. Juan Toscano Anderson is also in that mix as well. I still am unclear who the backup point guard is and guys like Iggy, Otto Porter, and Bjelica all have seen pretty sharp declines over the past season or two.

None of the Rookies are likely to even be in the rotation to start the season and Wiseman's minutes will depend on his progression but they certainly won't be ‘big’ off the bench. The back-up PG is Poole who will run point when Curry sits.

I understand the issue of health completely but a healthy Warriors team is definitely not one of the teams with no depth. The FO did a good job of bringing in veteran players who should fit well into our system (Iguodala, Porter, Bjelica), and the role players we have back this year are proven fits already who we can rely on them for solid minutes (Looney, JTA, Lee).

[Scalabrine]

5. Golden State Warriors - Their top end talent is there but with Klays injury it seems like they are gonna be counting on Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody to all play big minutes. Juan Toscano Anderson is also in that mix as well. I still am unclear who the backup point guard is and guys like Iggy, Otto Porter, and Bjelica all have seen pretty sharp declines over the past season or two.

None of the Rookies are likely to even be in the rotation to start the season and Wiseman's minutes will depend on his progression but they certainly won't be ‘big’ off the bench. The back-up PG is Poole who will run point when Curry sits.

I understand the issue of health completely but a healthy Warriors team is definitely not one of the teams with no depth. The FO did a good job of bringing in veteran players who should fit well into our system (Iguodala, Porter, Bjelica), and the role players we have back this year are proven fits already who we can rely on them for solid minutes (Looney, JTA, Lee).

Not denying they did a good job with what they had to work with but still don't think 4 guys on minimum contracts can be considered good depth and the other two you mentioned (Poole and Looney) are probably gonna be starters, no? Like I said to another poster, if this team isn't relying on their 3 youngster to step up and be capable of playing rotation minutes, then that's a shallow team. Porter, Iggy, Bjelica arent getting by off name more than actual skill at this point.

[Scalabrine]

You're a little backwards here. When healthy the starters will be Curry/Klay/Wiggins/Draymond/Looney and the double digit regular minutes off the bench guys will be Poole/Iguodala/Porter/Bjelica with JTA and Lee possibly in that mix as well. Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody will all be fighting for minutes and if they win them great but none of them will be depended upon out the gate.

I dont think I have it backwards at all. Klay isn't gonna play the first half of the year and when he does he's a big unknown. Iguodala, Porter and Bjelica haven't had a good season in 2-3 years. Poole should make a jump and I think he's a dark horse MIP but that's still only 5-6 deep if you don't think the youngsters are gonna get minutes.

The difference between us is you think that bench is good, and I think it's overrated. Maybe they have a resurgance but I dont think they will.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The bench is significantly better than last season. Thinking Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman are going to all play big minutes as well. That unrealistic scenario happens if Kuminga and Moody are both essentially fighting for ROTY, and Wiseman improves significantly from last season.

drastically improved from last year? sure. But last years bench was really really bad. Otto Porter has played in 56, 14, 28 games the past 3 seasons. Iggy is bound to miss 20ish games aswell and his effectiveness is really starting to show as he's entering his age 38 season. I think Bjelica should be good for them as a situational player but he can be picked on defensively and his conditioning was a major concern in Miami.

All I'm saying is that those rookies (im counting Wiseman as a rookie) are gonna have to earn some minutes. It's delusional to think 4 guys on minimum deals plus Poole and Looney as your 4-9 guys is actually gonna be good depth. Worst in the league? Maybe not. But certainly not good.

[Scalabrine]

no they don't

Our 3rd string C and 2nd string guard were both starting in the playoffs last year. Our 3rd string SG started 50 games. Maybe Toppin and Quickley wouldn't start but they are definitely deserving high minute rotation players at this point.

Guys starting because the real starter is injured doesn't make them starting material.

Speaking of depth...Care to put any depth in your post instead of uninformed 1 liners with no substance?

[Texas Chuck]

Our 3rd string C and 2nd string guard were both starting in the playoffs last year. Our 3rd string SG started 50 games. Maybe Toppin and Quickley wouldn't start but they are definitely deserving high minute rotation players at this point.

Guys starting because the real starter is injured doesn't make them starting material.

Speaking of depth...Care to put any depth in your post instead of uninformed 1 liners with no substance?

Speaking of depth, want to explain how a player who started for a good Knicks team last year and who is scheduled to come off Dallas' bench isn't a positive towards their depth?

I asked earlier and you either somehow missed it which seems surprising considering you are responding to a bunch of posts or maybe you just don't have a good answer?

But guys who clearly played behind him last year are being sold as "starters on other teams" but he's not even noted as a good depth piece. Do players lose all their powers when they leave the Knicks?

Maybe he's lumped in with those respectable guys who should be bench players which would be fine I suppose but then I look at clearly worse players on the Knicks being sold as starters across the league so that can't possibly be it. Confusing.