IT'S LIKELY: Bronny James is 18 and short (about 6'1/2" barefoot) so his size+skills won't make him a real nba player

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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#101 » by lakerz12 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:45 pm

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nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


Steph Curry.


Klay Thompson also. 2 guys on the same team :)

Edit: Oh, we're only talking about "all time legend players"? Well yeah, of course. The odds of anyone being better than an all time legend is by default almost impossible.

The odds of their child being better than them is even smaller.

It's not because the offspring are unmotivated so much as it is because the statistical chance of anyone being a top 50 all time NBA player are astronomically small.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#102 » by Bank Shot » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:54 pm

So he's probably going to end up around 6'6" in shoes? That's tough. Not many players have had success in the league at that height.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#103 » by Danny11 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:00 pm

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nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


Steph Curry.


Klay Thompson also. 2 guys on the same team :)

Edit: Oh, we're only talking about "all time legend players"? Well yeah, of course. The odds of anyone being better than an all time legend is by default almost impossible.

The odds of their child being better than them is even smaller.

It's not because the offspring are unmotivated so much as it is because the statistical chance of anyone being a top 50 all time NBA player are astronomically small.

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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#104 » by AussieCeltic » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:00 pm

I had my biggest growth spurt at 17 and then a small one at 20-21. There is every chance he can end up around 6’6-6’7 given his genes.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#105 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:01 pm

Anyone who has followed high school recruiting has known Bronny has not been viewed as an elite prospect. I think 247 has him somewhere around 30 in his class, take away his name recognition and he is probably roughly around 50th or so in his class.

So ya he’s a really good prospect in the overall view of everything. But he’s never been some sure fire OAD lottery pick kind of prospect.

He could still have a growth spurt and this can all change. But ya as of right now he’s still kind of just viewed as a really good college prospect but not a sure fire lotto pick kind of guy.

And before anyone says being ranked 30th in his class is him being an elite prospect. Im talking about in terms of NBA draft potential. No one is talking about guys like Charles Bediako or Trey Kaufman as elite prospects. Both guys are ranked somewhere between 30th and 50th in most recruiting rankings for this upcoming class.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#106 » by zimpy27 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:02 pm

Yeah he was never going to be a lottery pick but he could be late first round. Most likely a second-round pick a team takes a chance on. I see a Josh Hart type player.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#107 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:18 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Yeah he was never going to be a lottery pick but he could be late first round. Most likely a second-round pick a team takes a chance on. I see a Josh Hart type player.


And to be completely honest, wouldnt be shocking if he goes undrafted. Go to any past recruiting class and look at the players ranked 30th-50th. Id say somewhere around only 1/3 of those guys even sniff the NBA. It also doesnt mean he cant become a really good NBA player either. There are plenty of guys ranked around there or later that became really good NBA players. But ya he isn't some sure fire NBA guy, definitely not a sure fire lotto guy.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#108 » by DCasey91 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:27 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Yeah he was never going to be a lottery pick but he could be late first round. Most likely a second-round pick a team takes a chance on. I see a Josh Hart type player.


That’s who I see funnily enough. Good spot

People here talk down and are highly critical of elite sports players in general myself included.

But make no mistake actually playing sport at the highest level the chances are astronomically small and gets a lot harder at every step up.

High school to College then College to NBA are so far apart it’s not funny.

I will say one thing though the in between legitimate development circuits/programs domestically are very much behind in comparing to other worldwide sports.

My own personal belief I hope the NBA’s domestic circuit becomes exactly the model as it is in the Majors (A, AA, AAA), makes for a way better quality product overall.

Front offices does share some of the blame for giving up on 20 yr olds way way too earlier, it’s morally suspect. But that’s more or less the outcome of the quick cyclical nature of young inexperienced talent in the NBA. They are just not ready.

It should have been done by now. G league should be looked upon as the forerunner for upping the overall development of fringe/nba potential players. Longer timeframes, example a kid that’s highly touted at 19 might be too raw. Instead of being stuck on the bench for 3-4 years and stagnating

The secondary league is full of players in his age bracket. That’s a high level stomping ground for all that’s not ready but talented to play real meaningful ball vsing each other.

Majors do it so should the NBA.
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Post#109 » by CS707 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:30 pm

Kinda creepy following a kid since 9 years old but even if basketball doesn’t work out something tells me he’s going to be alright.
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Post#110 » by Soulyss » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:33 pm

I remember in high school, we had this kid who was 5'6 maybe 5'7... and I remember meeting his family at some after school event (he was a Jr. I was a Sr.) and seeing all of them 6'5+... walking trees...

For a while I thought his momma was slumming...

I graduated and saw him the following spring when I went to my friends H.S. graduation... he was at least 6'4.

That said... my initial point stands... Lebron's grandkids won't need the NBA, let alone his children. I hope they all get well educated at good schools and help manage their dad's empire.
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#111 » by Danny1616 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:41 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


I think you mean that no son has ever surpassed their father in the NBA that was a legit hall of famer.

Kobe's father was a scrub in the NBA.

Dell Curry was a solid role player/6th man.

Klay Thompson is better than his father who was a very good NBA player.

Al Horford better this his father who was an NBA scrub.
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Post#112 » by Anti Chalmers » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:47 pm

Bronny just turn 17 lol. I think he'll be at least 6'5 or 6'6. I would be surprised if he stop at 6'2 or 6'3, as his mom seems pretty tall too.
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Post#113 » by The_Hater » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:49 pm

James was most recently ranked the 41st American HS player in his draft class, so he is a solid NCAA prospect but always a long shot to have an NBA career.
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Post#114 » by CS707 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:58 pm

He’s always got the NBA offseason to grow three full inches and put on 25lbs of solid muscle anyway.
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Post#116 » by PlatinumState » Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:01 pm

Regardless of his height I still dont think he'll make an impact in the nba. If he ever makes a roster that is
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Post#117 » by SharpyShuffle » Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:09 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Yeah he was never going to be a lottery pick but he could be late first round. Most likely a second-round pick a team takes a chance on. I see a Josh Hart type player.


And to be completely honest, wouldnt be shocking if he goes undrafted. Go to any past recruiting class and look at the players ranked 30th-50th. Id say somewhere around only 1/3 of those guys even sniff the NBA. It also doesnt mean he cant become a really good NBA player either. There are plenty of guys ranked around there or later that became really good NBA players. But ya he isn't some sure fire NBA guy, definitely not a sure fire lotto guy.
Yes, but let's be honest, the important thing is that Bronny is ranked highly enough that a team can draft him in the second round without it being obvious that they're only doing it to try to land LeBron. So long as he's good enough that teams can have plausible deniability and can say with a straight face that they think he's got the potential to make it on their team, he's 100% getting drafted.

Late second rounders have very low value - basically every team in the league will toss one away if it gives them even a 10% chance to land LeBron on a vet min deal. When LeBron first started talking about playing with his son, I think most people imagined he'd be down to a 10mins per game, vet leader role by then. But with the way he's aging, he might still be a top10 player. Landing him on the cheap is worth a lotto pick, let alone some trash second rounder
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Post#119 » by Gibson22 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:21 pm

Recap:
1)He's not good enough to make it to the nba at his height. I'm not saying that if you are 6'3 you can't make it to the nba
2)I understand that some people do grow a lot after 17, but the average is 3/4 of an inch, and he's been at this height for 2 years.
3)We all know that he will be fine regardless
4)Players are scouted from the youngest age
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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#120 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Oct 7, 2021 11:29 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.

Eh. Drive is nice, but look at the size and athletic difference between MJ, LeBron, Arvydas and their sons. You have to hit the genetic lottery to sniff that athleticism. Them hitting the lottery once and passing that genetic material on somewhat is the reason these guys have any NBA potential at all.

I would bet if LeBron had 1000 kids with Savannah, there would be a lot more NBA players than if Gloria James and LeBron’s dad had 1000 kids, just from a size/athleticism standpoint.
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