If Push Came to Shove... (Irving Trade)

[harlem_ball]

Unbelievable

Report him. I've already done so. He's a heat fan who has come on here to troll and now he's spreading antivax crap. He needs to be banned

Suprising he hasnt been banned. Rich needs to dust off the banhammer

Are you trolling or seriously mentally disabled? I'm vaccinated and have no issues with vaccinations. I'm merely trying to wrap my head with Kyrie's thought process as everyone else is. Attacking me because you're sad your hero is not going to play will do nothing for you. I'm sure anybody with intelligence will read this thread and know I am not trolling. I'm leaving because you guys are jerks and frankly, I don't like you.

[Prokorov]

I'm not saying this to make light of what's going on with him, but that video that he liked that Rolling Stone wrote about is absolute nuttery. Aliens, calling covid a "scamdemic", all kinds of crazy stuff.

I don't think Kyrie is a bad person, but after seeing a few mins of that craziness before I turned it off, he definitely has some serious mental health issues, far worse than I was led to believe, if he really does subscribe to this stuff.

Forget basketball, he needs to see someone and get treatment if his beliefs are even close to what was on that video. Conspiracy theory circles and disinformation pushed by bad faith actors purposely prey on people who suffer from anxiety, depression, etc. It is very easy to fall into this stuff if your mental health leads you towards constant paranoia and the feeling that someone is always trying to hurt you.

The fact that he's willing to throw away everything, including his livelihood over this is being taken way too lightly. Dude needs help.

He liked the video. he didnt write, direct, produce and film it.

"throw away everything" lol! he isnt throwing away anything. at most a season of basketball. his livlihood? he has a net worth of over 100 million and makes more off the court then on it.

i think the people in this thread are the ones who need mental help. and the same people who said he should "off himself" for missing a game for his childs birth.

Nah. You're just in denial. Someone just doesn't randomly like stuff for no reason. IF. Key word. IF he does subscribe to that stuff in that video, Kyrie is mentally ill. I'm not gonna sugar coat it.

Don't insult other people because you continue to infantilize Kyrie like he is a special child that can do no wrong. It is clear by his behavior that something isn't right.

It is ignorance. you dont know why he liked it... maybe he just likes conspiracy theories. Maybe part but not all of it he liked about it. maybe he worships satin in his basement. the idea that we are going to contributed him to being all in on that stuff based on a "like" is absurd. Again, i go back to the book and KDs podcast... he actually says in one of them "the media be tripping if you like something. like who cares... not everything i like is some monumental statement."

There is no infantizing of kyrie... as i said last time, which one is treating kyrie like a child:

1) telling him what he has to do and calling him [insert: bad person/teammate/ahole/crazy/etc] if he doesnt do what you tell him because he knows better

2) Letting him make his own decisions and judging him by what he says. not what the media who is not direct quoting him says?

I'm more then happy to reconsider that im babying him... but from my chair, the dude is pretty honest, apologizes when he feels he is wrong, is a great teammate who past and present teammates love, and who has had every single absence as a net excused, most for universally good reasons (i.e. the birth of his child). The no mask thing is the only thing i see thats really wrong, and i critized him for that as well as irresponsible and not acceptable.

And I never said Kyrie should kill himself. What the hell dude??? I empathize with him because I know what anxiety and depression does to people, I'm not saying this stuff to make light of him. I am legit concerned that he is suffering from mental health issues.

I didnt say you, i said "people in that thread". go back to the thread before it came out he had a kid. it was pretty gross what people were saying about him. ESPECIALLY when they thought it was about protesting social justice. You arm chair diagnosing him with depression is both ignorant and baseless. You have absolutely on idea about the dude. being weird dosnt make you depressed. And alot of celebrities who killed them selves who were depressed came off as super normal and happy. It isnt something you just diagnose watching from afar.

But sure, if you think having 100 million dollars or whatever means he's fine, sure. Continue to believe that. But all of this is a cry for help.

100 million was speaking to his financial livilyhood. "cry for help?" which part. and please, dont give me media spin or narrative. give me like the real stuff he has done or said. I think its pretty stupid not to get the vaccine, but he is far from alone and this isnt communisim where you can govern peoples bodies... and if anyone is gonna be paranoid and black native american has alot of reasons to not be so trusting of the US.

You said similar things when he missed time last year, then did a 180 when you found out he missed time for his kid. I think you fall into the same trap as many with Kyrie. you fill in the blanks, which there are alot of since he keeps it private, without any basis for it instead of just waiting for the actual informaiton.

case in point, everyone talking about the team or teamates being over it. but when they talk, its the opposite.

[Prokorov]

Marks:

While social media is all abuzz about Kyrie Irving missing games and practices for the Brooklyn Nets, the team seems nonplussed by the situation. Nets players are unmoved by Irving's vaccination status.

Nets General Manager Sean Marks said, “It’s definitely out in the Twitterverse more than it is in our locker room, without a doubt. All I can tell you is what he’s told everybody: It’s a private matter, and he needs to talk to the right people and figure out in his close circle what he wants to do.”

Durant:

[On if he will urge Kyrie to get the Vaccine]No, I don’t go out giving advice. This is his decision; that’s his choice. We all respected it, the team respects it. This is way bigger than hoops. So I don’t feel comfortable talking to him about stuff like this. But I’m just here to support him and to come in here and do my job as one of the leaders on the team, and when things get figured out... I’ve got trust and that it’ll get figured out,” Durant said.

Harden:

It's not disappointing at all. It's not disappointing. Ky believes in what he believes in. His family is behind him, we're behind him. That's all that it is

Joe Harris:

“With Ky’s situation, obviously, we support him. Whatever decisions that are made, that’s for him personally. But we support him as a team either way. … He’s still a part of the Brooklyn Nets. He’s still a part of this family, and none of that has changed.”

I'm really not sure what else people want... the team supports him, his teammates support him. the stars on this team support him. its his choice. he isnt out talking nonsense like beal is. he is keeping it quiet, going through whatever process in the background. its not going to happen overnight. He isnt going to speak on it (nor does he owe that to you - just like he didnt owe it to you to tell you he missed games last time because his kid was born).

Wanting it to end soon isnt going to change the reality that this process moves slowly. there will likely be exhausted appears, injuctions, trying loopholes, etc before a vaccine is even considered. people assume its vaccine or not... but right now it aint even at that point... its exhausting options to not get vaccinated and still play. he has every right ot those appeals, and everyone who matters supports him.

There is nothing wrong with the team supporting him in public.

In public. Keep that in mind. They aren't going to throw him under the bus. Nor should they.

NBA players throw teammates under the bus all the time. it is extremely common, especially in situations when the player is away from the team. They arent throwing him under the bus, because... they actually like and support him. There is a ton more evidence of that then the idea they are just pretending to support him but deep down they dont. Again, not just on this, but well before the mandate. I hate to sound like a broken record, but read his teamates tweets the past year, read the book on the nets season, and most of all, listen to KD's etc podcasts (even without insight on kyrie, any netfan should listen). KD/Harden/Kyrie have known each other for a long time. Kyrie taking this kind of stand isnt some surprise. and they dont like the dude inspite of that, but because of that. All these dudes are all about empowerment.

However, one thing I keep seeing is you saying he is going through appeals. We have seen no evidence of that. Andrew Wiggins appealed and he was denied immediately. Nothing has been put out there that says that Kyrie is even appealing the matter. He would lose either way, because there is zero reason why the state of NY should allow him to enter Barclays or the practice facility if he doesn't comply with a public health mandate.

I didn't say he is getting an appeal. i said he could be getting an appeal. we don't know, but you dont start the process as someone who doesnt want to take the vaccine with a black and white decision and hard line in the sand on "get vaxxed or dont". You explore avenues where you can not get the vaccine and still play.

Wiggins situation is a different state. different laws/mandates. He to my knowledge is not the same religion and he is not a native american. I'd assume Kyrie's case is much different. (it may still be a quick denial) but its still many different variables between the 2. Maybe they didnt appeal yet. maybe they are waiting on NY challenges and court cases on the mandate to play out to see what avenues that opens before appealing. the legal process typically is a slow one.

The urgency from the team/players and speedy timelines for appeals/challenges/courts simply is not there. I assume if kyrie already appealed and lost either with the NBA or state we would know since thats public record.

From where i sit, im just looking at what we know and not making all kinds of assumption based on nothing or the opposite of what his team is actually saying. Team/teammates have been extremely clear and non-crypting about universal support for him, his decision, and want him here.

most of the court cases over the mandate are over its exclusion of religious exemptions. from what i read, there will be injunctions with nurses in that case until the mandate is re-written. fi it is, and includes religious exemptions, Kyrie could appeal for a religious exemption to the state (wiggins appeal was to the NBA).

Again, we dont know where Kyrie is in this process. But I dont see any reasons why he shouldnt be allowed to excersize his freedom not to get the shot, is from all account following safety protocols for the non-vaccinated, and should be afforded every consitituional and legal right to appeals.

[Prokorov]

Honestly, Kyrie is most likely not going to play this season.

Players that don't practice do not play under Marks' regime. We have seen that. They aren't going to throw them out there when they don't have access to him, can't monitor his physical conditioning, and him not being able to practice means he's not integrating himself into the sets and plays being run.

Can you point to examples of "players who dont practice dont play under marks"? I don't recall hearing about that. Additionally, both Kyrie and KD refused to wear the monitoring devices the team requires players to wear for the advanced biometrics and analsys. (its in the book) and that didnt stop them from playing.

I'm like, 1000% positive they would let kyrie play regardless of practice status, if there was no injury involved. Now, i can see him not playing for other reasons, like the team just prefers he sorts it all out with the state/vaccine or whatever first... like "all in or all out, when your back we want you to be fully back" but practice?

I'm fine with it. I hope Kyrie gets the help he needs eventually, but we have a good team with two great players leading the way. It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on. If Kyrie really believes that someone wants to microchip him on the behalf of an alien conspiracy plot to take the souls of Black people, basketball should be the least of his concerns.

Kyrie said nothing about microchips. maybe you are confusing him with beal? "it was fun while it lasted". dude its preseason. not the playoffs. The team the players uniong and kyrie are not going to bend to the fans timeline. Thankfully we have smart, player first people in charge who are not going to throw around demands when there are 100 better ways to handle it..

[Prokorov]

Report him. I've already done so. He's a heat fan who has come on here to troll and now he's spreading antivax crap. He needs to be banned

Suprising he hasnt been banned. Rich needs to dust off the banhammer

Are you trolling or seriously mentally disabled? I'm vaccinated and have no issues with vaccinations. I'm merely trying to wrap my head with Kyrie's thought process as everyone else is. Attacking me because you're sad your hero is not going to play will do nothing for you. I'm sure anybody with intelligence will read this thread and know I am not trolling. I'm leaving because you guys are jerks and frankly, I don't like you.

[harlem_ball]

Suprising he hasnt been banned. Rich needs to dust off the banhammer

Are you trolling or seriously mentally disabled? I'm vaccinated and have no issues with vaccinations. I'm merely trying to wrap my head with Kyrie's thought process as everyone else is. Attacking me because you're sad your hero is not going to play will do nothing for you. I'm sure anybody with intelligence will read this thread and know I am not trolling. I'm leaving because you guys are jerks and frankly, I don't like you.

[MGrand15]

The only report that talked about any sort of appeal was Kyrie pushing for a "moral" exemption and not a religious exemption. Any sort of religious exemption does not apply here. I've heard of some employers approving these exemptions to essentially avoid the trouble of arguing with someone being irrational. Kyrie has 15 million followers on social media, a huge reach with the youth across the world, and has gotten attention from a ton of major politicians. They're not going to make an exception for him when the whole world is watching - especially when this has nothing to do with religion.

At this point, I'm only staying slightly positive because Kyrie hasn't said ANYTHING publicly. If he got vaccinated tomorrow and just told reporters "I still want to keep it private" - I wouldn't be surprised.

At the same time, I wouldn't be shocked or bothered at all if he just retired. Bill Simmons hates Kyrie but he said something like 'it feels like Kyrie's whole career has been building to this moment.' I wouldn't be surprised that - even though 95% of players are vaccinated, all NBA employees are vaccinated, 185+ million Americans have been vaccinated - Kyrie might feel like this is all a conspiracy. He might feel like this is a career and life defining moment for him to "take a stand". After all the nonsense that's clouded the good things he's done in the past 10 years, it would be a fitting way to wrap it up. Right on the edge of playing with his friends, in his home town, with the most talent around him, with an organization and staff that supports him 100% - he turns his back on it for the dumbest thing ever.

[Prokorov]

The only report that talked about any sort of appeal was Kyrie pushing for a "moral" exemption and not a religious exemption. Any sort of religious exemption does not apply here. I've heard of some employers approving these exemptions to essentially avoid the trouble of arguing with someone being irrational. Kyrie has 15 million followers on social media, a huge reach with the youth across the world, and has gotten attention from a ton of major politicians. They're not going to make an exception for him when the whole world is watching - especially when this has nothing to do with religion.

We dont know if it does or doesnt... even if it doesnt, he can still file a religious appeal (assuming the mandate is edited to allow them, which according to reports on the nurses cases, is somewhat probable). This is much bigger then Kyrie and his 15 million followers. you have millions of city workers petitioning, challenging, and suing the state on the mandate. whatever changes/is held up will come from that, not Kyrie... but it does effect his options for appeals/loopholes.

At this point, I'm only staying slightly positive because Kyrie hasn't said ANYTHING publicly. If he got vaccinated tomorrow and just told reporters "I still want to keep it private" - I wouldn't be surprised.

Agree. alot of assumptions being made. both on kyrie and on what the team/players feel about it

At the same time, I wouldn't be shocked or bothered at all if he just retired. Bill Simmons hates Kyrie but he said something like 'it feels like Kyrie's whole career has been building to this moment.' I wouldn't be surprised that - even though 95% of players are vaccinated, all NBA employees are vaccinated, 185+ million Americans have been vaccinated - Kyrie might feel like this is all a conspiracy. He might feel like this is a career and life defining moment for him to "take a stand". After all the nonsense that's clouded the good things he's done in the past 10 years, it would be a fitting way to wrap it up. Right on the edge of playing with his friends, in his home town, with the most talent around him, with an organization and staff that supports him 100% - he turns his back on it for the dumbest thing ever.

I doubt he would retire. maybe 1 year hiatus - mutually agreed with the team, but i doubt he would just be done. I can see him retiring with more in the tank, but i think he has more seasons playing near home in him. As far as "taking a stand" Kyrie isnt the in your face protestor/preacher/advocate type of take a stand guy. he is more of a silent, im going to do what i feel is right and let you talk about it type.. maybe some cryptic message no one udnerstands... but he isnt going to be at the front of anyones protest or podium. he uses his financial assets more then his voice on these kinds of things, and even then we usually dont find out about most of them.

Im cautiously optomistic he plays at some point... and im really much less panicy because i dont think its anywhere near a breaking point on a decision as media/fans make it out to be. i think its probably a 4-8 weeks before kyrie's options narrow to "take the vaccine or decide not to play"... where as the media makes it seem more like its 4-8 days for that decision

[Claud]

Serious question:

How much is he even worth considering he might actually retire/be out of the league?

Would be lucky to get much of anything for him. I think it's best to keep him and hope he comes around to his senses.

[MrDollarBills]

I have zero issues if Kyrie takes a year away from basketball. At the end of the day, I just hope he will be alright.

[Whiskey Slick]

Serious question:

How much is he even worth considering he might actually retire/be out of the league?

Would be lucky to get much of anything for him. I think it's best to keep him and hope he comes around to his senses.

If the Nets thought they could get even 25% of Kyrie's value, strictly from a talent POV, he'd already be traded.

Unfortunately there are no Owners or GM's who are even more clinically insane than Kyrie.

That's what it would take to receive something of value for Kyrie at this point. If Kyrie was a house and he was his own tenant, he didn't just trash the house on his way out, he burnt it to the ground so nobody else could buy it.

[LOUiS-D]

I agree with vaccine mandates and passports when a population can't get its **** together and sniff 80% full vaccination. I resent (if true) Kai's threat to retire if traded. I agree that this is a distraction when it's basically a bases loaded, homerun hitter at the plate situation. I agree that there's a degree of disloyalty on Kai's part to not do everything he can to be out there and compete.

If he's all about the research can we get a team of the smartest mf'ers in the world and the misanthropic dipshits from 4chan (who come up with this bs that makes it's way through social media faster than the delta strain) and put them in a room with Kai for a cage match debate. Can we take him on a tour of a manufacturing plant where the vaccines are produced and let him hand pick the shot that goes in his arm. Can there be some research that he can put his hands on that doesn't sound like it was original scribed on a bathroom wall in feces.

All that said. I'm here for away game, no play in LA, Kyrie. I can't defend it, but I choose to stan.

[MrDollarBills]

I agree with vaccine mandates and passports when a population can't get its **** together and sniff 80% full vaccination. I resent (if true) Kai's threat to retire if traded. I agree that this is a distraction when it's basically a bases loaded, homerun hitter at the plate situation. I agree that there's a degree of disloyalty on Kai's part to not do everything he can to be out there and compete.

If he's all about the research can we get a team of the smartest mf'ers in the world and the misanthropic dipshits from 4chan (who come up with this bs that makes it's way through social media faster than the delta strain) and put them in a room with Kai for a cage match debate. Can we take him on a tour of a manufacturing plant where the vaccines are produced and let him hand pick the shot that goes in his arm. Can there be some research that he can put his hands on that doesn't sound like it was original scribed on a bathroom wall in feces.

All that said. I'm here for away game, no play in LA, Kyrie. I can't defend it, but I choose to stan.

Kyrie isn't doing any research none of these guys who say that are. Sitting on YouTube with a joint in your mouth watching some grifter ranting about aliens isn't research.

Kyrie isn't going to listen to anything that doesn't appeal to his confirmation bias.

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KD seemed very tired of answering questions about Kyrie last night. This is a distraction. Instead of talking about the season and the excitement over Cam, he and the rest of the guys will continually have to talk about this.

We start off with two games on the road, and then 4 straight home games that Kyrie will miss. Can't wait for that circus.

[ecuhus1981]

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You are right, MDB. Irving's absence was, is an will continue to be the Dementor of what should be a joyous season. We should be glowing about Cam's late-game heroics. Instead, we're all in limbo due to one player's vaccine status.

Also, I'm not sure Kyrie is unvaccinated. This whole thing has felt more like union stewardship than anything else to me. He wants to make sure the few players that genuinely are dragging their feet don't feel voiceless against the league. As the NBPA vice president, I'm sure he feels a sense of responsibility, perhaps he's decided to fall on the sword where other members wouldn't. If so, we're in for a long haul, until players have court-ruled protections around playing.

That doesn't make it better, it might even make it more infuriating for some. But it's my hunch.

[MrDollarBills]

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You are right, MDB. Irving's absence was, is an will continue to be the Dementor of what should be a joyous season. We should be glowing about Cam's late-game heroics. Instead, we're all in limbo due to one player's vaccine status.

Also, I'm not sure Kyrie is unvaccinated. This whole thing has felt more like union stewardship than anything else to me. He wants to make sure the few players that genuinely are dragging their feet don't feel voiceless against the league. As the NBPA vice president, I'm sure he feels a sense of responsibility, perhaps he's decided to fall on the sword where other members wouldn't. If so, we're in for a long haul, until players have court-ruled protections around playing.

That doesn't make it better, it might even make it more infuriating for some. But it's my hunch.

I'm 100% certain that he's not vaccinated.

I don't think that the guy is playing 3D chess here. He's paranoid, deluded, and has fallen victim to conspiracy antivax propaganda that has actually gotten thousands of unvaccinated people killed. He is willing to blow everything up because of it. I've gone from frustration to feeling sorry for him because I think he's suffering and is not getting treatment for whatever mental health issues that are driving him off of a cliff.

I am not kidding when I say I hope he will be alright. I don't think the guy is well.

[ecuhus1981]

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You are right, MDB. Irving's absence was, is an will continue to be the Dementor of what should be a joyous season. We should be glowing about Cam's late-game heroics. Instead, we're all in limbo due to one player's vaccine status.

Also, I'm not sure Kyrie is unvaccinated. This whole thing has felt more like union stewardship than anything else to me. He wants to make sure the few players that genuinely are dragging their feet don't feel voiceless against the league. As the NBPA vice president, I'm sure he feels a sense of responsibility, perhaps he's decided to fall on the sword where other members wouldn't. If so, we're in for a long haul, until players have court-ruled protections around playing.

That doesn't make it better, it might even make it more infuriating for some. But it's my hunch.

I'm 100% certain that he's not vaccinated.

I don't think that the guy is playing 3D chess here. He's paranoid, deluded, and has fallen victim to conspiracy antivax propaganda that has actually gotten thousands of unvaccinated people killed. He is willing to blow everything up because of it. I've gone from frustration to feeling sorry for him because I think he's suffering and is not getting treatment for whatever mental health issues that are driving him off of a cliff.

I am not kidding when I say I hope he will be alright. I don't think the guy is well.

I feel this. KAI is drawn to conspiracy theories like a moth to a flame. He may well be unwell.

My hunch is more based on his offseason activities. He attended multiple events that require vaccination. It's possible that he skated through restrictions every time due to his celebrity (if so, shame on them). But I think that's less likely.

He's just not willing to show the NBA his proof. Which is bratty. And maybe a teeeeeensy bit noble, if he's protecting a few fellow NBA players who are genuinely at risk of adverse side effects from a vaccine. Like Andrew Wiggins, who reports a prior reaction to a vaccine led to his hesitancy about this one.

Or maybe they just don't like the fact that their private health information is public property. There are too many variables to ascertain.

[bullsaficianado]

All this drama over a covid-19 shot. This is ridiculous. It's just a vaccine and just like the flu shot it doesn't guarantee you won't get the flu or covid-19. he should know vaccines just lighten the load if you get sick.

Man up and get the shot Kyrie.

[Prokorov]

All this drama over a covid-19 shot. This is ridiculous. It's just a vaccine and just like the flu shot it doesn't guarantee you won't get the flu or covid-19. he should know vaccines just lighten the load if you get sick.

Man up and get the shot Kyrie.

it is his body and his choice. He is aware of the limitations/consequences as so far accepts those. people call him selfish. but really what is selfish is demanding what someone else puts in their body so that a basketball team can play better.

is it dumb? yeah. but its the old "i dont agree with you, but ill fight to death that you have the right to say it"

[Prokorov]

I agree with vaccine mandates and passports when a population can't get its **** together and sniff 80% full vaccination. I resent (if true) Kai's threat to retire if traded. I agree that this is a distraction when it's basically a bases loaded, homerun hitter at the plate situation. I agree that there's a degree of disloyalty on Kai's part to not do everything he can to be out there and compete.

If he's all about the research can we get a team of the smartest mf'ers in the world and the misanthropic dipshits from 4chan (who come up with this bs that makes it's way through social media faster than the delta strain) and put them in a room with Kai for a cage match debate. Can we take him on a tour of a manufacturing plant where the vaccines are produced and let him hand pick the shot that goes in his arm. Can there be some research that he can put his hands on that doesn't sound like it was original scribed on a bathroom wall in feces.

All that said. I'm here for away game, no play in LA, Kyrie. I can't defend it, but I choose to stan.

Kyrie isn't doing any research none of these guys who say that are. Sitting on YouTube with a joint in your mouth watching some grifter ranting about aliens isn't research.

Kyrie isn't going to listen to anything that doesn't appeal to his confirmation bias.

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KD seemed very tired of answering questions about Kyrie last night. This is a distraction. Instead of talking about the season and the excitement over Cam, he and the rest of the guys will continually have to talk about this.

We start off with two games on the road, and then 4 straight home games that Kyrie will miss. Can't wait for that circus.

I'm sure he is tired of it... he was tired of it last time when he said "...maybe im naive" which was him getting chippy after being asked the same question for the 6th time. KD knows the drill, reporters will just ask him a million times until they get the right sound bite they can twist into a dramatic headline. he loathes the media, he destroys them all the time on the ETCs.

That said, i dont buy that it is a distraction or that it hinders the team from that standpoint. i said this last year as well. This is the "big 3" brooklyn nets era. not hickory high school. day 1 there was national media and intenraitonal media and non-sports media following the team every day. asking all kinds of nonsesne questions and trying to create TV drama whenever they could. its not like it was all quiet and just local stuff and then this happened and now there is attention.

there was drama, false accusations, and assumptions, and questions on kyrie all last year too. that didnt stop us from stomping everyone in our path. Kyrie injury is what hurt us... not some "distractions"

IF it isnt a kyrie quesiton for KD its something else... thye will always find the drama. last year it was draymond fake beef even though they are super tight. then it was him going on a date with lana rhodes or some backpage nonsense...

these guys NEVER have a time when its just basketball from the media. its too big a headline to get a juicy soundbite and twist it for clicks

[MrDollarBills]

I agree with vaccine mandates and passports when a population can't get its **** together and sniff 80% full vaccination. I resent (if true) Kai's threat to retire if traded. I agree that this is a distraction when it's basically a bases loaded, homerun hitter at the plate situation. I agree that there's a degree of disloyalty on Kai's part to not do everything he can to be out there and compete.

If he's all about the research can we get a team of the smartest mf'ers in the world and the misanthropic dipshits from 4chan (who come up with this bs that makes it's way through social media faster than the delta strain) and put them in a room with Kai for a cage match debate. Can we take him on a tour of a manufacturing plant where the vaccines are produced and let him hand pick the shot that goes in his arm. Can there be some research that he can put his hands on that doesn't sound like it was original scribed on a bathroom wall in feces.

All that said. I'm here for away game, no play in LA, Kyrie. I can't defend it, but I choose to stan.

Kyrie isn't doing any research none of these guys who say that are. Sitting on YouTube with a joint in your mouth watching some grifter ranting about aliens isn't research.

Kyrie isn't going to listen to anything that doesn't appeal to his confirmation bias.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

KD seemed very tired of answering questions about Kyrie last night. This is a distraction. Instead of talking about the season and the excitement over Cam, he and the rest of the guys will continually have to talk about this.

We start off with two games on the road, and then 4 straight home games that Kyrie will miss. Can't wait for that circus.

I'm sure he is tired of it... he was tired of it last time when he said "...maybe im naive" which was him getting chippy after being asked the same question for the 6th time. KD knows the drill, reporters will just ask him a million times until they get the right sound bite they can twist into a dramatic headline. he loathes the media, he destroys them all the time on the ETCs.

That said, i dont buy that it is a distraction or that it hinders the team from that standpoint. i said this last year as well. This is the "big 3" brooklyn nets era. not hickory high school. day 1 there was national media and intenraitonal media and non-sports media following the team every day. asking all kinds of nonsesne questions and trying to create TV drama whenever they could. its not like it was all quiet and just local stuff and then this happened and now there is attention.

there was drama, false accusations, and assumptions, and questions on kyrie all last year too. that didnt stop us from stomping everyone in our path. Kyrie injury is what hurt us... not some "distractions"

IF it isnt a kyrie quesiton for KD its something else... thye will always find the drama. last year it was draymond fake beef even though they are super tight. then it was him going on a date with lana rhodes or some backpage nonsense...

these guys NEVER have a time when its just basketball from the media. its too big a headline to get a juicy soundbite and twist it for clicks

I forgot about the whole Lana Rhoades thing. KD had allegedly brought a back up date with him when he met up with her and Lana said she ended up getting bored and left. Out of all the stories I've heard about these guys, that has to be the funniest. Most guys would have been simping because Lana is smoking hot, but not KD.