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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1361 » by infinite11285 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:15 pm

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Don’t post any more tweets from unverified sources. You’ve littered this thread with information lacking in context, can easily be misinterpreted, originates from disreputable sources, requires a tinfoil hat to comprehend, or is flat-out false.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1362 » by ItsDanger » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:16 pm

That Harvard study might be relevant to mild/moderate and even serious side effects to a degree. Not likely only 1% of deaths reported to VAERS. Easy way to verify is to investigate a sample of hospitals to review how strictly they have adhered to regulations.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1363 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:16 pm

nikster wrote:
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michaelm wrote:This may seem obvious to a conspiracy theorist, but is not so to me.


Read on Twitter

Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Idk how many there are. The point is that there have been studies stating that VAERS is seriously underreported.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1364 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:17 pm

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nikster wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.


The study he posted was from Harvard .
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1365 » by nikster » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:17 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
nikster wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.

And who better to turn to for advice on a medicine and pandemics then a professor of ethics
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Post#1366 » by xdrta+ » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:18 pm

michaelm wrote:68 pages now where continued requests for evidence other than conspiracy theories have gone unmet.


Hard to produce evidence when there is none.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1367 » by nikster » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:19 pm

ZB9 wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
nikster wrote:Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.


The study he posted was from Harvard .

the relevance and extrapolations are his own. Find someone from harvard who thinks there was 15 000 vaccine deaths in the US, let alone a potential 1.5 million.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1368 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:24 pm

K-DOT wrote:
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nikster wrote:Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.

Using a study from over 10 years ago

Which, in the very screenshot he used, says one of the reasons for the low reporting numbers is low awareness of what VAERS is

I swear to god, these people don't actually read anything they link.


yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1369 » by nikster » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:30 pm

ZB9 wrote:
nikster wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Just to get this straight, you think there is a potential of 1.5 million vaccine induced deaths in the US alone and that this is somehow gone unnoticed? And this phenomenon hasn't been captured anywhere in the world?


Idk how many there are. The point is that there have been studies stating that VAERS is seriously underreported.

We've detected and identified a blood clot risk with Astra Zeneca that appears to be about 1 in 200 000. a potential 15 000 vaccine deaths in the US would put the risk at about 1 in 26 000. It is impossible for that to have gone undetected world wide so far
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1370 » by DOT » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:32 pm

ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.

Using a study from over 10 years ago

Which, in the very screenshot he used, says one of the reasons for the low reporting numbers is low awareness of what VAERS is

I swear to god, these people don't actually read anything they link.


yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.

So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1371 » by michaelm » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:41 pm

ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Hey if Professor Michael Northcott said it on Twitter, then who are we to argue? After all, he's a professor.

Using a study from over 10 years ago

Which, in the very screenshot he used, says one of the reasons for the low reporting numbers is low awareness of what VAERS is

I swear to god, these people don't actually read anything they link.


yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.

As has been said, the USA is not the only country in the world, nor the only country with a VAERS system.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1372 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:50 pm

K-DOT wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Using a study from over 10 years ago

Which, in the very screenshot he used, says one of the reasons for the low reporting numbers is low awareness of what VAERS is

I swear to god, these people don't actually read anything they link.


yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.

So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.


We have been discussing VAERS reporting. That's the most recent study ive found about it. If you have a more recent one id love to see it.

A new study definitely needs to be done about VAERS reporting. If it's gone from 1 percent to 40 percent or to 60 percent or to 99 percent that would be good to know.

I love how yall pick and choose what to label "misinformation".
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1373 » by michaelm » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:56 pm

ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.

So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.


We have been discussing VAERS reporting. That's the most recent study ive found about it. If you have a more recent one id love to see it.

A new study definitely needs to be done about VAERS reporting. If it's gone from 1 percent to 40 percent or to 60 percent or to 99 percent that would be good to know.

I love how yall pick and choose what to label "misinformation".

Yes it is rather obvious that you form your conclusions before you seek evidence for them.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1374 » by NyKnicks1714 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:00 pm

infinite11285 wrote:
ZB9 wrote:.


Don’t post any more tweets from unverified sources. You’ve littered this thread with information lacking in context, can be easily misinterpreted, originates from disreputable sources, requires a tinfoil hat to comprehend, or is flat-out false.


Sincere question: why is he allowed to continue posting in this thread? His sole contribution has been spreading verifiably false information, and all the tweets he's posted with fake or extremely misleading numbers and statements are still up for everyone to see. Hundreds of people are viewing this thread; this is how dangerous misinformation spreads.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1375 » by DOT » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:03 pm

ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
yea it would be awesome if a neutral health board/commision did a new VAERS study on covid vaccine adverse effects and VAERS reporting.

That is what should happen.

So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.


We have been discussing VAERS reporting. That's the most recent study ive found about it. If you have a more recent one id love to see it.

A new study definitely needs to be done about VAERS reporting. If it's gone from 1 percent to 40 percent or to 60 percent or to 99 percent that would be good to know.

I love how yall pick and choose what to label "misinformation".

That's not how burden of proof works

You made the claim, you have to back it up with evidence

Evidence that is clearly outdated and/or irrelevant, like a study done over a decade ago is both outdated and irrelevant

And the way you're backtracking shows it was intentional, that you knew it wasn't accurate, yet you posted it anyways. Which makes it misinformation.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1376 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:04 pm

michaelm wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.


We have been discussing VAERS reporting. That's the most recent study ive found about it. If you have a more recent one id love to see it.

A new study definitely needs to be done about VAERS reporting. If it's gone from 1 percent to 40 percent or to 60 percent or to 99 percent that would be good to know.

I love how yall pick and choose what to label "misinformation".

Yes it is rather obvious that you form your conclusions before you seek evidence for them.


I seem to be the only one here posting sources and evidence lol
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1377 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:05 pm

K-DOT wrote:
ZB9 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:So, why did you post that study if you knew it wasn't accurate?

Did you not know, or were you intentionally posting misinformation?

Because nowhere did you say "this isn't accurate, but a study done over a decade ago said this, we should look into this," you just posted it as evidence covid is being underreported, when it was an unrelated study done over a decade ago.


We have been discussing VAERS reporting. That's the most recent study ive found about it. If you have a more recent one id love to see it.

A new study definitely needs to be done about VAERS reporting. If it's gone from 1 percent to 40 percent or to 60 percent or to 99 percent that would be good to know.

I love how yall pick and choose what to label "misinformation".

That's not how burden of proof works

You made the claim, you have to back it up with evidence

Evidence that is clearly outdated and/or irrelevant, like a study done over a decade ago is both outdated and irrelevant

And the way you're backtracking shows it was intentional, that you knew it wasn't accurate, yet you posted it anyways. Which makes it misinformation.


What claim did i make?

This was my post:
"Well there is incentive to over report covid deaths

It's possible but there isnt really incentive to over report to VAERS. It's probably the opposite when it comes to VAERS. There is incentive not to report to VAERS (even though they are supposed to)."
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1378 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:14 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
ZB9 wrote:.


Don’t post any more tweets from unverified sources. You’ve littered this thread with information lacking in context, can be easily misinterpreted, originates from disreputable sources, requires a tinfoil hat to comprehend, or is flat-out false.


Sincere question: why is he allowed to continue posting in this thread? His sole contribution has been spreading verifiably false information, and all the tweets he's posted with fake or extremely misleading numbers and statements are still up for everyone to see. Hundreds of people are viewing this thread; this is how dangerous misinformation spreads.


Prove my point about trying to censor views that you dont like lol
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1379 » by ZB9 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:35 pm

Anyway, i have been posting too much, bored at work. Im out, am not going to post much in here any more. This is too serious and polarizing of a topic. Sorry if i offended anyone.

Back to fun sports diversion for me.
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Re: NBA protocols/Covid/Vaccine - Discussion thread 

Post#1380 » by NyKnicks1714 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 6:40 pm

ZB9 wrote:Anyway, i have been posting too much, bored at work. Im out, am not going to post much in here any more. This is too serious and polarizing of a topic. Sorry if i offended anyone.

Back to fun sports diversion for me.


You didn't offend anyone, you just did nothing but post false information.

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