Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[spikeslovechild]

According to Stein; the Sixers asked for Portland's entire draft future with CJ, have no interest in Kyrie, and are also out on anything the Pacers have to offer. He also wrote the Sixers are still targeting a star such as Damian Lillard.

Morey is crazy.

Portland picks are not worth much and CJ doesn't interest me at all.

So I don't blame him for asking that from the Blazers. Irving may retire rather than play he's untradable right now. The only thing I disagree with is dismissing Indiana out of hand Levert and Brogdon plus a pick is a strong offer if it's true

[zimpy27]

Brogdon
Lavert
Danny Green
Tobias
Biid

^that’s a potent starting 5. An MVP caliber and THREE 20ppg players

You also have Maxey and Seth off the bench. And an allstar big in Drummond (am i kidding or serious?)

We just trade Milton for Justin Holiday or some 3&D wing.

You have Thybulle and Korkmaz too

[spikeslovechild]

Brogdon
Lavert
Danny Green
Tobias
Biid

^that’s a potent starting 5. An MVP caliber and THREE 20ppg players

You also have Maxey and Seth off the bench. And an allstar big in Drummond (am i kidding or serious?)

We just trade Milton for Justin Holiday or some 3&D wing.

You have Thybulle and Korkmaz too

You also have the assets and salary to make the move for an allstar should they come available.

I don't mind this trade at all. There is risk yes but the upside is there to make the team better

[XtremeDunkz]

If the Levert, Brogdan, pick offer is legit, I'd take it. I'd try to get a swap in there as well. But this is one of the few deals that I like.

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[XtremeDunkz]

No interest in helping Ben win a ring so no chance I move him to Brooklyn.

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[DCasey91]

If the Levert, Brogdan, pick offer is legit, I'd take it. I'd try to get a swap in there as well. But this is one of the few deals that I like.

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Ask for like a 2024 swap (might be risky) or something like that.

I do want to end up with an inside top ten pick this year.

[spikeslovechild]

If the Levert, Brogdan, pick offer is legit, I'd take it. I'd try to get a swap in there as well. But this is one of the few deals that I like.

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Yep I think that leaves us with a bunch of assets to make a future move as well.

I don't get why that wouldn't interest Morey but who knows how much is floating around is actually true

[DCasey91]

If the Levert, Brogdan, pick offer is legit, I'd take it. I'd try to get a swap in there as well. But this is one of the few deals that I like.

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Yep I think that leaves us with a bunch of assets to make a future move as well.

I don't get why that wouldn't interest Morey but who knows how much is floating around is actually true

Because the chances of the trio being fit isn’t great, and the chance of having a high ceiling team isn’t either.

The trade is logical on value but it’s not without valid risk.

Morey likes to go all in on one instead of a deal like this (could be his downfall).

If the Pels are tight shut on Ingram that’s fine, but I would put out all the sweeteners for him (3 way with Wolves/Blazers everything likes up extremely well for all parties involved).

[kuclas]

Indiana is not going anywhere with Sabonis and Simmons and turner duarte (rookie) holiday and TJ Warren (injury not healed). I don’t see why they trade for Simmons. Unless it’s to excite fans.

Their current roster if with levert/brodgon assuming they healthy can win them between 44-48 games in the east. Maybe 50 if the chips fall

With Simmons and no levert or brodgon. You are looking at similar 44-48 wins in the east.

[Sportfan73]

If the Levert, Brogdan, pick offer is legit, I'd take it. I'd try to get a swap in there as well. But this is one of the few deals that I like.

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Yep I think that leaves us with a bunch of assets to make a future move as well.

I don't get why that wouldn't interest Morey but who knows how much is floating around is actually true

Because the chances of the trio being fit isn’t great, and the chance of having a high ceiling team isn’t either.

The trade is logical on value but it’s not without valid risk.

Morey likes to go all in on one instead of a deal like this (could be his downfall).

If the Pels are tight shut on Ingram that’s fine, but I would put out all the sweeteners for him (3 way with Wolves/Blazers everything likes up extremely well for all parties involved).

Can’t see them trading Ingram for less win now pieces after the media already trying to get Zion out of there and his comments about he’s not missing the playoffs again.

[DCasey91]

Yep I think that leaves us with a bunch of assets to make a future move as well.

I don't get why that wouldn't interest Morey but who knows how much is floating around is actually true

Because the chances of the trio being fit isn’t great, and the chance of having a high ceiling team isn’t either.

The trade is logical on value but it’s not without valid risk.

Morey likes to go all in on one instead of a deal like this (could be his downfall).

If the Pels are tight shut on Ingram that’s fine, but I would put out all the sweeteners for him (3 way with Wolves/Blazers everything likes up extremely well for all parties involved).

Can’t see them trading Ingram for less win now pieces after the media already trying to get Zion out of there and his comments about he’s not missing the playoffs again.

CJ + Roco and a 1st or multiple swaps. Point Zion, one extra ballhandler/shooter/scorer with more space, two wings (Roco, Hart, Murphy can raffle it) and move Val for Turner. Pels shouldn’t play chicken go all in with him.

Ben goes to the Blazers, once again win win they get defense finally

We get Ingram

All three teams win and I can’t see it any other way.

Lead guard Flynn/Pritchard low usage off ball shooter/passer.

No we are cooking Embiid/Ingram/Pritchard has a nice ring to it.

[the_process]

Brogdon and Levert are always hurt.

And this is a franchise that already has Embiid.

O/U on number of games (including playoffs) that all 3 of Embiid, Brogdon, and Levert are healthy - 37.5.

And I'm hitting the under hard.

Indy has no logical trade piece unless Sabonis is going to a 3rd team for a guard, and that guard is coming to Philly for Simmons.

[spikeslovechild]

Brogdon and Levert are always hurt.

And this is a franchise that already has Embiid.

O/U on number of games (including playoffs) that all 3 of Embiid, Brogdon, and Levert are healthy - 37.5.

And I'm hitting the under hard.

Indy has no logical trade piece unless Sabonis is going to a 3rd team for a guard, and that guard is coming to Philly for Simmons.

If Levert and Brogdon were fully healthy you wouldn't get them in a trade for Simmons lets just be clear on that Levert when he thought he was healthy was the key piece in the Harden deal. Granted it was an awful trade but if you could easily package him later for an allstar that fits better if he proves himself to be healthy.

That is sort of the risk reward to the deal. Also I am less concerned about Brogdon health he had nagging injuries at the end that kept him out of some key games but nothing to the extent of Levert.

[zimpy27]

Maxey, Brogdon, Green, Harris, Embiid
Curry, Thybulle, LeVert, Niang, Drummond
Springer, Joe, Milton, Korkmaz, Reed

I think that's a good fit and there are fewer weaknesses in this than any Philly team I've seen. Less star power but less weakness to take advantage of in a playoff series.

[Lovetron Joe]

Maxey, Brogdon, Green, Harris, Embiid
Curry, Thybulle, LeVert, Niang, Drummond
Springer, Joe, Milton, Korkmaz, Reed

I think that's a good fit and there are fewer weaknesses in this than any Philly team I've seen. Less star power but less weakness to take advantage of in a playoff series.

Pass on Indy and Minnesota players and picks. Shoot for the stars.

[Tomjas]

Brogdon and Levert are always hurt.

And this is a franchise that already has Embiid.

O/U on number of games (including playoffs) that all 3 of Embiid, Brogdon, and Levert are healthy - 37.5.

And I'm hitting the under hard.

Indy has no logical trade piece unless Sabonis is going to a 3rd team for a guard, and that guard is coming to Philly for Simmons.

If Levert and Brogdon were fully healthy you wouldn't get them in a trade for Simmons lets just be clear on that Levert when he thought he was healthy was the key piece in the Harden deal. Granted it was an awful trade but if you could easily package him later for an allstar that fits better if he proves himself to be healthy.

That is sort of the risk reward to the deal. Also I am less concerned about Brogdon health he had nagging injuries at the end that kept him out of some key games but nothing to the extent of Levert.

LeVert was far from being the centrepiece of the Harden deal

He was just a piece who was sitting on the Nets bench at the time

[Stanford]

LeVert was far from being the centrepiece of the Harden deal

Solid point considering he wasn't even traded to Houston.

[spikeslovechild]

Brogdon and Levert are always hurt.

And this is a franchise that already has Embiid.

O/U on number of games (including playoffs) that all 3 of Embiid, Brogdon, and Levert are healthy - 37.5.

And I'm hitting the under hard.

Indy has no logical trade piece unless Sabonis is going to a 3rd team for a guard, and that guard is coming to Philly for Simmons.

If Levert and Brogdon were fully healthy you wouldn't get them in a trade for Simmons lets just be clear on that Levert when he thought he was healthy was the key piece in the Harden deal. Granted it was an awful trade but if you could easily package him later for an allstar that fits better if he proves himself to be healthy.

That is sort of the risk reward to the deal. Also I am less concerned about Brogdon health he had nagging injuries at the end that kept him out of some key games but nothing to the extent of Levert.

LeVert was far from being the centrepiece of the Harden deal

He was just a piece who was sitting on the Nets bench at the time

He was the best player the Nets traded. Yes they added a ton of picks but everyone knew most of those picks won't be worth much and the swaps won't be even be considered useful until 2025 and 2027.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

That's a lot to ask from Portland! I don't know....CJ and a couple future firsts should honestly do it. I don't know though. I'm not a GM.
I'm a huge Caris LeVert fan! He's shown the ability to be de facto point guard on a team, I'm just a big fan all around. He's very talented, but also often injured. If Brogdon and LeVert have or were to be offered for Ben Simmons and another player, I would jump all over it. At some point you have to take a risk and just roll with the consequences.

We're going to struggle this year if we stay put as is and Ben sits out. That is unless Shake, Thybulle, Maxey, Kork, and Joe all take big steps towards improving their games. As of right now, we have NO point guard to speak of. Jaden Springer is G League bound and I personally don't think he'll be very good. Maxey can score more than he can initiate. Shake is also a scorer. We have nobody that can run an offense, and it's going to show right away. If Simmons is going to sit it out and we aren't going to trade him, then we need to make a move for a veteran point guard that can at least make an entry pass into Embiid. Ish Smith, TJ, Aaron Holiday, Monte Morris, somebody! It's going to get ugly without a true point guard on this roster. At this point Tim Frazier, Yogi Ferrell, Mike James, Jeff Teague, Matthew Dellavedova all look like upgrades over anyone we currently have available! That's concerning! Anyone that thinks Shake or Maxey can hold it down is a fool. Tobias Harris can't either. It's going to be a problem. Ben Simmons is a point guard in a power forwards body. The offense is a lot better IN THE REGULAR SEASON when he's running it. For whatever reason, he withers and dies in the playoffs but that's neither here nor there right now. Right now we need a point guard. Hindsight is 20/20 but we should have drafted Shariffe Cooper instead. That's going to come back to bite us.

[Stanford]

He was the best player in the deal.

In a deal that was entirely about draft capital. If Houston cared about the best player, they would have taken Morey's offer. They cared so much about Caris Levert that they didn't even take him in the deal.