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2021-22 Preseason 

Post#1 » by Harper4Ferry? » Wed Oct 6, 2021 4:12 pm

Anyone watch game one? We lost by 36 points to the bulls
Other games


Wed, Oct 6
@Atlanta
7:30 PM

Fri, Oct 8
vs Indiana
7:00 PM

Sun, Oct 10
vs Chicago
Chicago
7:00 PM

Fri, Oct 15
@Indiana
7:00 PM

I may go to Friday's game.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#2 » by JonFromVA » Wed Oct 6, 2021 4:23 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:Anyone watch game one? We lost by 36 points to the bulls


I watched and it wasn't pretty. No signs of progress so far, even Mobley looked like he did in Summer league.

A concern for me is that Jarrett Allen has looked more like a typical 7-footer than a defensive force / rim-protector, but way too early to judge. The contrast to Mobley (who continues to look amazing on D) makes it pretty obvious that he's not back to where he was when he joined the Cavs.

edit: added this:

It was amazing that 6'4" Javonte Green was dominating our 7-footers.

If this was a LeBron-team, I'd call it rust and player's saving it for games that matter; but I don't get it with this squad. All these guys have been working out from before training camp started, they have all the youth in the world ... they should be pre-season All-Stars but they just don't seem to know what they're doing. They're trying to share the ball and move the ball, but the execution is way off. JBB tried some lineups which should have had better floor spacing and they couldn't seem to take advantage.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#3 » by Neonblazer » Wed Oct 6, 2021 5:02 pm

Rough to watch. Alot of standing around both defense and offense. Alot missed layups. Turnovers. Rubio and Love were the bright spots. Markkanen was involved alot of early offense but looked like he had the jitters. Maybe something to do with playing against the Bulls or in a new team.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#4 » by FranchisePlayer » Wed Oct 6, 2021 6:47 pm

It can only get better after this.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

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Post#5 » by JonFromVA » Wed Oct 6, 2021 9:48 pm

FranchisePlayer wrote:It can only get better after this.


*knock on wood*
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#6 » by HMFFL » Thu Oct 7, 2021 12:10 am

Mfiondu not receiving any playing time?

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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#7 » by jbk1234 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 12:45 am

Is the preseason on FSO?

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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#8 » by JonFromVA » Thu Oct 7, 2021 1:20 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Is the preseason on FSO?


Don't know... Ive been seeing the Bulls and Hawks announcers on nba league pass channels. Preseason should be free to stream as well as the first week unless blackout rules are in affect.
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Post#9 » by FranchisePlayer » Thu Oct 7, 2021 6:10 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
FranchisePlayer wrote:It can only get better after this.


*knock on wood*


Hey, we won!
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

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Post#10 » by JonFromVA » Thu Oct 7, 2021 6:24 pm

Maybe it's just been too long since I've seen a Cavalier consistently defend at a high level, but Mobley has me wondering if he could get DPOY votes as a rook.
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Post#11 » by Harper4Ferry? » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:05 pm

HMFFL wrote:Mfiondu not receiving any playing time?

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rotations were suspect in that game, for sure.
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Post#12 » by Harper4Ferry? » Thu Oct 7, 2021 10:07 pm

Also, Austin Carr back at announcing. I guess the worst team in the league deserves the worst broadcaster.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#13 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:23 am

:evil: Looks like we can’t play defense again and Sexland is still a disaster. Could be another long season.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#14 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:52 am

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Post#15 » by Neonblazer » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:53 am

Not sure if Sexton-Garland-Okoro-Mobley-Allen makes sense even from developing stand point. They are playing so poorly together.
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Post#16 » by JonFromVA » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:10 pm

Neonblazer wrote:Not sure if Sexton-Garland-Okoro-Mobley-Allen makes sense even from developing stand point. They are playing so poorly together.


Mostly Sexton, Garland, and Okoro have just been awful. Pretty sad for our past 3 picks, but fortunately these games don't count.

The spacing is really bad, but that doesn't excuse everything they've done wrong.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#17 » by JonFromVA » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:21 pm

At least Windler and Wade looked good in their turn to show what they can do.
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Post#18 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:35 pm

Agreed on Wade and Windler. I also think Love as a old man backup floor stretching center could have a bit of promise. Not worth 30 million, but worth something.

If Philly and Indy do a Simmons deal involving lavert and brogdan, we should try to strip Brogdan out of that deal if we can. He’d solve a lot of our defensive/backcourt issues
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Post#19 » by JonFromVA » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:36 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:Agreed on Wade and Windler. I also think Love as a old man backup floor stretching center could have a bit of promise. Not worth 30 million, but worth something.

If Philly and Indy do a Simmons deal involving lavert and brogdan, we should try to strip Brogdan out of that deal if we can. He’d solve a lot of our defensive/backcourt issues


Garland and Sexton just look a bit lost what to do with our new toys - seemingly all they've learned in two years is how to take turns and do some simple actions off their drives. Revving up their intensity once the games start counting will help, but it shouldn't be so hard in pre-season.

Hopefully things start clicking because somehow our attempts to teach these guys to run an offense needs to somehow take hold.

I'm comforted by the fact that we've seen LeBron look completely out of sorts with his teammates for stretches, but Garland and Sexton don't have that kind of talent let alone track record.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#20 » by Harper4Ferry? » Sat Oct 9, 2021 10:10 pm

I thought maybe they were running Love in the second unit because they didn’t want to see him get booed out of the stadium. But he was getting the loudest crowd pops all night which just blows my mind.

You can’t run a my turn, your turn offense unless you’re Brooklyn. We seem to have that as our system in place now. Our schedule is so hard the first 20 games that I’m almost hoping for a 3-17 start that triggers a full start over in the front office and HC.

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