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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#641 » by FinnTheHuman » Fri Oct 8, 2021 10:50 am

Lmao you guys can't be serious. LeVert and Brogdon is an insanely good offer for Philly. I doubt Indiana is offering both, but if they are, there's no way we're beating that offer. It's better than a DLo + Beasley offer for sure. Sour grapes all over the place here.
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Post#642 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Fri Oct 8, 2021 11:31 am

Is it even an offer or a suggestion from a beat writer? Isn’t that like me saying KAT and Beasley is enough to land Simmons?
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Post#643 » by FinnTheHuman » Fri Oct 8, 2021 12:25 pm

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:Is it even an offer or a suggestion from a beat writer? Isn’t that like me saying KAT and Beasley is enough to land Simmons?


Idk if it's a suggestion or a rumor or w/e, but I doubt it's an offer Indiana is willing to make unless Philly is sending something good back with Simmons. Indiana should be asking for Maxey or Thybulle attached to that, so if they're actually willing to trade Levert and Brogdon, the holdup might be that Philly doesn't want to give up Maxey or Thybulle on top of Simmons.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#644 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Oct 8, 2021 12:35 pm

Still cant believe this **** is still going on
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#645 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 8, 2021 3:20 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:Sounds like the deals is Levert and Brogdon for Simmons.


Would be shocked if Morey took this deal now. Would kill any chance of acquiring even an all star (forget getting a superstar). While solid guys, limited upside and really really injury prone.

That said, if this happened, have to go all in on acquiring Sabonis. He doesn’t fit with Simmons at all. And while the defensive fit wouldn’t be idea here, he’d cure the rebounding issues and the offense would be elite.

Agree completely…I’m a big fan of Sabonis. I’ll be vilified for saying this but I’d offer the same package for him as I would for Simmons.


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Post#646 » by jpatrick » Fri Oct 8, 2021 3:36 pm

From Shams report today, I’d be surprised if Simmons didn’t report by opening day. The question becomes whether he will try hard or be toxic (Butler/Harden).
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Post#647 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Oct 8, 2021 3:41 pm

jpatrick wrote:From Shams report today, I’d be surprised if Simmons didn’t report by opening day. The question becomes whether he will try hard or be toxic (Butler/Harden).


I kind of hope it happens. The Philly media and fanbase will be relentless and ruthless. The entertainment value would be through the roof watching that **** show from afar.
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Post#648 » by gandlogo » Fri Oct 8, 2021 4:15 pm

Philly fans busting out the "Let's go, Brandon!" chant for good ole BS. :lol:

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Post#652 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 8, 2021 7:25 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.

IF IF IF
I always take rumored offers with a grain of salt. Maybe they wanted Maxey and Thybulle included. However, I agree that if the offer is straight up LeVert and Brogdon Philly should accept.
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Post#653 » by jpatrick » Fri Oct 8, 2021 9:31 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.

IF IF IF
I always take rumored offers with a grain of salt. Maybe they wanted Maxey and Thybulle included. However, I agree that if the offer is straight up LeVert and Brogdon Philly should accept.


Levert and Brogdon might be two of the only players more injury prone than Embiid in the NBA. Levert in particular has had a rough go and is currently out with a “minor” stress fracture of his back.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#654 » by fattymcgee » Fri Oct 8, 2021 9:34 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.

IF IF IF
I always take rumored offers with a grain of salt. Maybe they wanted Maxey and Thybulle included. However, I agree that if the offer is straight up LeVert and Brogdon Philly should accept.


I don't think they both were offered. The day this "rumor" came out there were two other rumors. One was saying Philly was inquiring about Brogdon and the other rumor said Philly was inquiring about LeVert. I think someone misunderstood and combined the two rumors.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#655 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 8, 2021 9:40 pm

jpatrick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.

IF IF IF
I always take rumored offers with a grain of salt. Maybe they wanted Maxey and Thybulle included. However, I agree that if the offer is straight up LeVert and Brogdon Philly should accept.


Levert and Brogdon might be two of the only players more injury prone than Embiid in the NBA. Levert in particular has had a rough go and is currently out with a “minor” stress fracture of his back.

Levert is injury prone, but Steph Curry was injury prone until he wasn't. I didn't know about Brogdon. All I know is he is really good.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#656 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Oct 8, 2021 10:15 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:IF IF IF
I always take rumored offers with a grain of salt. Maybe they wanted Maxey and Thybulle included. However, I agree that if the offer is straight up LeVert and Brogdon Philly should accept.


Levert and Brogdon might be two of the only players more injury prone than Embiid in the NBA. Levert in particular has had a rough go and is currently out with a “minor” stress fracture of his back.

Levert is injury prone, but Steph Curry was injury prone until he wasn't. I didn't know about Brogdon. All I know is he is really good.


LeVert has not had a healthy season since his Freshman year of college in 2012.

2013-14: Stress fracture in his foot. Out 3 months.
2014-15: Reinjured the foot. Lost for the season after 18 games.
2015-16: Different "lower leg injury". Lost for the season after 15 games.
2016-17: Rookie year. Missed his first 20 games rehabbing.
2017-18: Missed 10 games with knee and groin injuries. This is the closest he's ever been to healthy.
2018-19: Severe right leg injury (subtalar dislocation of the right foot.) Missed 42 games.
2019-20: Thumb injury cost him 27 games.
2020-21: Kidney and knee problems cost him 26 games.
1 week ago: Diagnosed with a stress fracture in his back.

His body is held together by prayers and duct tape. And he's just not that good. He's a guy that can do a bit of everything, but nothing exceptionally.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#657 » by younggunsmn » Fri Oct 8, 2021 11:25 pm

This could actually get much worse for Philly if SImmons reports, knowing the rep of Philly fans.
I'd be careful about hoping he reports if I were Morey.
He might have a mental breakdown or just go full Mark Madsen and chuck a bunch of ugly 3's.

Some ridiculously lopsided offers leaked in the media.
Brogdon and Lavert are nice average supporting players who are always injured, not needle movers.
It will probably come down to what kind of draft pick package Morey is willing to settle for attached to whatever stopgap salary filler is the best short term fit. I don't see a lot of teams willing to help him out in a 3-teamer with the ridiculous offers he's reportedly throwing out there.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#658 » by Krapinsky » Sat Oct 9, 2021 1:53 am

IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.


I actually think So Money’s conspiracy has some legs to it. He said from the start that Indiana is helping Morey by setting the value for Simmons with these ‘rejected’ trade offers.
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#659 » by jpatrick » Sat Oct 9, 2021 2:55 am

Krapinsky wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.


I actually think So Money’s conspiracy has some legs to it. He said from the start that Indiana is helping Morey by setting the value for Simmons with these ‘rejected’ trade offers.


Why would Indy help Philly though? Both Eastern teams. Is there a connection between Morey and their GM?
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Re: Ben Simmons Thread #2 (“Don’t make me contact Howard” Edition) 

Post#660 » by Krapinsky » Sat Oct 9, 2021 3:10 am

jpatrick wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264327/76ers-Unmoved-By-Indianas-Ability-To-Offer-Malcolm-Brogdon-Caris-LeVert-For-Ben-Simmons

Morey is crazy not to take levert and brogdon.


I actually think So Money’s conspiracy has some legs to it. He said from the start that Indiana is helping Morey by setting the value for Simmons with these ‘rejected’ trade offers.


I don’t begin to understand it — just saying Philadelphia turning down Levert AND Brogdon doesn’t smell right.

Why would Indy help Philly though? Both Eastern teams. Is there a connection between Morey and their GM?


I don’t begin to understand it — just saying Philadelphia turning down Levert AND Brogdon doesn’t smell right.
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