Are the Warriors contenders?

The411 · Post #21 » by **The411** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 9:20 am

I brought this up in the Lakers thread. I think the Warriors have the highest ceiling in the West, but that comes with the injury caveat of course.

A lot will hinge on how Wiseman goes this year. If he's improved to say 15 and 8 and shows decent court awareness the Warriors will be difficult to beat.

If healthy, I would want no part of GS come playoff time.

GregOden · Post #22 » by **GregOden** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 9:32 am

Peregrine01 wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:Contenders? lol... They're not even a lock for the playoffs...

They finished 15-5 last year to land in the 7th seed while fielding a 7-man rotation include Curry, Green, Looney, Poole and three other guys who probably wouldn't find a roster spot anywhere else. This year, they added Otto Porter Jr, Bjelica and Klay. Plus Poole has made a HUGE leap.

This was a team that ranked top 5 in defense last year and was probably top 10 in offense in the last 20 games with Curry going bananas. This offense looks ridiculously better so far.

Health is the biggest thing for the Warriors because they have no depth. The Clippers can make the playoffs and even advance in the playoffs without Kawhi, hell it's not even that crazy to think they could make the WCF again. The Warriors certainly could be in the mix if everything goes right, but if Steph misses any time this team cant even make the playoffs without him.

Statlanta · Post #23 » by **Statlanta** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:15 pm

Steph and Klay injury prone and Draymond is declining. No way are they contenders. They have no way to improve the roster with their tax bill

SharpyShuffle · Post #24 » by **SharpyShuffle** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:26 pm

The Warriors need basically everything to go right to be contenders. Klay comes back as he was. Dray doesn't decline. Steph doesn't get hurt or exhausted from the burden of carrying them. Wiseman improves into a serviceable player (which is a *big* improvement). The rookies can actually contribute. Poole's ostensible improvement is real and he gets even better. Kerr figures out how to coach *this* roster, not try to square-pegs-round-holes them into trying to play like his old GSW teams. Their vets are less washed than they seem

They have the potential to be contenders, but only in the same way teams like the Mavs or Heat do if everything comes together perfectly for them.

Onus · Post #25 » by **Onus** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:51 pm

Weather advisory: there will be rain when playing the warriors

Curmudgeon · Post #26 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 1:08 pm

Depends on how Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody perform.

Swish1906 · Post #27 » by **Swish1906** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 3:57 pm

Klay on the court doesnt mean "Klay is back".

Klay is going to have a rough season

fianchetto · Post #28 » by **fianchetto** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:31 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:It's early but damn do they look good so far. Way more shooting this year compared to last, way more depth and more high IQ players. They're undersized but they're playing the biggest team in the league tonight (the Lakers) and more than holding their own in the paint. Really incredible what happens when you get competent shooters on a team.

This has, and always will be, fools gold. Yet every year we look at preseason as some sort of indicator. Everyone's just getting their toes wet. Just cause a player's on the floor doesn't mean they're performing up to their capacity. Consequently, every player that plays well in preseason could just be a product of that.

I'm fascinated by how their season will shake out. They'll need Klay to be Klay.

TheRealKaboom · Post #29 » by **TheRealKaboom** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:41 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Depends on how Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody perform.

The Warriors' season depends on those three and not Curry/Klay/Green?

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app

MrGoat · Post #30 » by **MrGoat** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:49 pm

Depends entirely on Klay. If he's back to form they are legit dark horses

Lunartic · Post #31 » by **Lunartic** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 5:54 pm

All I want for Christmas is a Warriors/Lakers WCF matchup

I want to see Curry duel Lebron once more before they retire

mpoo_sin · Post #32 » by **mpoo_sin** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 6:31 pm

fianchetto wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:It's early but damn do they look good so far. Way more shooting this year compared to last, way more depth and more high IQ players. They're undersized but they're playing the biggest team in the league tonight (the Lakers) and more than holding their own in the paint. Really incredible what happens when you get competent shooters on a team.

This has, and always will be, fools gold. Yet every year we look at preseason as some sort of indicator. Everyone's just getting their toes wet. Just cause a player's on the floor doesn't mean they're performing up to their capacity. Consequently, every player that plays well in preseason could just be a product of that.

I'm fascinated by how their season will shake out. They'll need Klay to be Klay.

Well, here is a good indicator for you: no team that went winless in the preseason has ever won the championship.

fianchetto · Post #33 » by **fianchetto** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 6:42 pm

mpoo_sin wrote:
fianchetto wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:It's early but damn do they look good so far. Way more shooting this year compared to last, way more depth and more high IQ players. They're undersized but they're playing the biggest team in the league tonight (the Lakers) and more than holding their own in the paint. Really incredible what happens when you get competent shooters on a team.

This has, and always will be, fools gold. Yet every year we look at preseason as some sort of indicator. Everyone's just getting their toes wet. Just cause a player's on the floor doesn't mean they're performing up to their capacity. Consequently, every player that plays well in preseason could just be a product of that.

I'm fascinated by how their season will shake out. They'll need Klay to be Klay.

Well, here is a good indicator for you: no team that went winless in the preseason has ever won the championship.

And what does this say to you? You're using extremely limited inductive reasoning if you think that means that there's a good correlation between preseason performance and RS performance. There are SO many other patterns to observe and this one is obvious but fairly meaningless.

Johnny Tomala · Post #34 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 6:58 pm

No way. They will not win a title in 2021-22. They are done as contenders.

Post #35 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:14 pm

With so many people saying they’re contenders, I hope that means Curry will be held to the same standard as other superstars if they fail to make a deep playoff run.

dhsilv2 · Post #36 » by **dhsilv2** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:19 pm

No team that starts Wiggins has a chance in hell...

dhsilv2 · Post #37 » by **dhsilv2** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:19 pm

The411 wrote:I brought this up in the Lakers thread. I think the Warriors have the highest ceiling in the West, but that comes with the injury caveat of course.

A lot will hinge on how Wiseman goes this year. If he's improved to say 15 and 8 and shows decent court awareness the Warriors will be difficult to beat.

If healthy, I would want no part of GS come playoff time.

He was the worst player in the nba last year...

righterwriter · Post #38 » by **righterwriter** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 7:37 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
The411 wrote:I brought this up in the Lakers thread. I think the Warriors have the highest ceiling in the West, but that comes with the injury caveat of course.

A lot will hinge on how Wiseman goes this year. If he's improved to say 15 and 8 and shows decent court awareness the Warriors will be difficult to beat.

If healthy, I would want no part of GS come playoff time.

He was the worst player in the nba last year...

lmao...

11/6 in 20mpg on good percentages for a 19 year old basically out of high school in a pandemic season and without SL or training camp.

If you can't see the talent, that's on you.

Watch on YouTube

_qubik · Post #39 » by **_qubik** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 8:04 pm

No they arent, Curry isnt carryinh Klay and Draymond, unless they play close to their 2015 form, even that might not be enough, and I think its too much to expect Klay to be this good out of the gate. They might advance the first round, and thats it for me. GSW and Curry title days are over

WarriorGM · Post #40 » by **WarriorGM** » Sat Oct 9, 2021 8:15 pm

dockingsched wrote:With so many people saying they’re contenders, I hope that means Curry will be held to the same standard as other superstars if they fail to make a deep playoff run.

Yeah I agree. If he was held to the same standard, there would be no doubt he is the greatest player since 2015 and the greatest player of the era.

KD can get Harden and Irving.
LeBron can have AD and Dwight.
Curry will make do with Jordan Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

I'll still go with Curry.