Bears talk 2.0; Fields era begins for real for real

[dice]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

mack has been great all along, always pressuring at a high rate. sacks are very variable. quinn is definitely stepping up this season though

as for carr's eyes, was it just me or was he wearing eyeliner?

[VolumePoster]

Bears are playing fields without really playing him. Not a single shot downfield today for Mooney or Robinson. He’s not a game manager type.

[fleet]

Bears are playing fields without really playing him. Not a single shot downfield today for Mooney or Robinson. He’s not a game manager type.

They drop him back probably 20 times as a gameplan. And this game it seemed like more of the shotgun stuff that has limited effectiveness. When they did let him drop back to pass with more of a play action look, it tended to work a lot better imo. I don’t know why they didn’t do that more like against Detroit. Have a feeling Nagy must be harassing Lazor. For some Nagy reason they actually ran some 5 man protect as well that predictably failed and should be banned. For the most part they ran out of the extra blocker sets, and Justin handed the ball off dropping back.

[fleet]

kudos to Nagy for making the adjustments to get this team to where they're at right now

Translation: glad he has diminished his influence on the offense. Kudos for getting out of the way. And not so sure it was his idea either.

[FecesOfDeath]

When you don't have a high gravity running threat like Montgomery on the field, there tends to be a few less throwing lanes for the QB to find easily.

[fleet]

When you don't have a high gravity running threat like Montgomery on the field, there tends to be a few less throwing lanes for the QB to find easily.

IMO, they had established the running game threat, but didn’t really try to capitalize on it with play action out of …I don’t know what, caution? They should havre tried. When they did it seemed to work

[Susan]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

If you're playing with the lead, and have a defense that can get after the QB like ours can, long sustained drives are hard to beat.

Shorten the game up, don't make any turnovers, make the other team drive it far down the field and run the hell out of the ball is a tried and true method to .500+ football.

Don't know if it's possible but stealing 1/2 of the next two games would be huge. Our passrush really flustered Brady last year but they're a different team now and the Packers are still the Packers and Rodgers has owned us for really his entire career. It would be something though if they pulled it off.

[dice]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

If you're playing with the lead, and have a defense that can get after the QB like ours can, long sustained drives are hard to beat.

Shorten the game up, don't make any turnovers, make the other team drive it far down the field and run the hell out of the ball is a tried and true method to .500+ football.

Don't know if it's possible but stealing 1/2 of the next two games would be huge. Our passrush really flustered Brady last year but they're a different team now and the Packers are still the Packers and Rodgers has owned us for really his entire career. It would be something though if they pulled it off.

i'd say that beating the packers is much more likely due to being a home game and the packers being inconsistent so far, but home field advantage hasn't been a thing this season

[nomorezorro]

i think my favorite compulsion is when play-call tea-leaf readers are like "yeah, offense is humming, good thing nagy gave up playcalling duties!" and then when there are a few ineffective plays in a row they go "idk i think nagy might have started calling plays again in the second half..."

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That drive smelled like Nagy.

This is not the same style offense we saw last week.

They aren’t scoring again. Nagy is going into a shell

Lazor seems fully back control now.

Have a feeling Nagy must be harassing Lazor. For some Nagy reason they actually ran some 5 man protect as well that predictably failed and should be banned. For the most part they ran out of the extra blocker sets, and Justin handed the ball off dropping back.

lol

[Susan]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

mack has been great all along, always pressuring at a high rate. sacks are very variable. quinn is definitely stepping up this season though

as for carr's eyes, was it just me or was he wearing eyeliner?

Quinn had dropfoot last year.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/foot-drop-causes-symptoms-treatments

Foot drop, sometimes called "drop foot," is the inability to lift the front part of the foot. This causes the toes to drag along the ground while walking.

Most commonly, foot drop is caused by an injury to the peroneal nerve. The peroneal nerve is a branch of the sciatic nerve that wraps from the back of the knee to the front of the shin. Because it sits very close to the surface, it may be damaged easily.

An injury to the peroneal nerve may also be associated with pain or numbness along the shin or the top of the foot.

He came into this season as a must cut but if you can get this type of production out of him, he's on pace for 12-15 sacks and I imagine he's high up there in pressures as well.

[nomorezorro]

(stubs my toe) looks like nagy can't leave well enough alone and is insisting on running the offense himself again. unreal
(finds $20 in an old pair of pants) good to see lazor is reasserting his control of playcalling duties

[fleet]

i think my favorite compulsion is when play-call tea-leaf readers are like "yeah, offense is humming, good thing nagy gave up playcalling duties!" and then when there are a few ineffective plays in a row they go "idk i think nagy might have started calling plays again in the second half..."

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That drive smelled like Nagy.

This is not the same style offense we saw last week.

They aren’t scoring again. Nagy is going into a shell

Lazor seems fully back control now.

Have a feeling Nagy must be harassing Lazor. For some Nagy reason they actually ran some 5 man protect as well that predictably failed and should be banned. For the most part they ran out of the extra blocker sets, and Justin handed the ball off dropping back.

lol

It was ugly early dude. It stayed kind of weird, but Lazor seemed to get control of the game back later from his master

[Susan]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

If you're playing with the lead, and have a defense that can get after the QB like ours can, long sustained drives are hard to beat.

Shorten the game up, don't make any turnovers, make the other team drive it far down the field and run the hell out of the ball is a tried and true method to .500+ football.

Don't know if it's possible but stealing 1/2 of the next two games would be huge. Our passrush really flustered Brady last year but they're a different team now and the Packers are still the Packers and Rodgers has owned us for really his entire career. It would be something though if they pulled it off.

i'd say that beating the packers is much more likely due to being a home game and the packers being inconsistent so far, but home field advantage hasn't been a thing this season

They have a really good forum here so I like to check out how they feel about their team from time to time. They really should have lost today - they really just know how to steal games just as much as the Vikings and Lions know how to blow em.

San Fran kinda sucks and they barely beat them, they played Cincy in Cincy just as close as the Vikings did and I'm not impressed with anybody beating the Steelers. The Pack probably have another gear but today's W for the Bears was kind of shocking to me. I'm never going to go into Packers week confident especially after Aaron's Willis Reed move he pulled in 2018 but there could be something fun brewing here with these guys.

[fleet]

Mack and Quinn ate having a resurgence together. A pass rush and a middle linebacker for the Bears is proven. Of it continues that means they have a chance to be above .500. But the Raiders dropped a couple passes. Secondary breakdowns still happened. But probably they are tightening up. Still liking that Bush is consistently making plays when called on. By the way, yes, Carr does take his eyes down sometimes when he feels crowded.

Fields is becoming a caretaker quarterback with upside. I think he is a responsible QB. I joked that he is Jimmy Mac, but more like Mike Tomczak. He was definitely looking to get the ball out quicker when pass rushers were coming too. That I hadn’t seen before.

mack has been great all along, always pressuring at a high rate. sacks are very variable. quinn is definitely stepping up this season though

as for carr's eyes, was it just me or was he wearing eyeliner?

Quinn had dropfoot last year.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/foot-drop-causes-symptoms-treatments

Foot drop, sometimes called "drop foot," is the inability to lift the front part of the foot. This causes the toes to drag along the ground while walking.

Most commonly, foot drop is caused by an injury to the peroneal nerve. The peroneal nerve is a branch of the sciatic nerve that wraps from the back of the knee to the front of the shin. Because it sits very close to the surface, it may be damaged easily.

An injury to the peroneal nerve may also be associated with pain or numbness along the shin or the top of the foot.

He came into this season as a must cut but if you can get this type of production out of him, he's on pace for 12-15 sacks and I imagine he's high up there in pressures as well.

FYI, i have dropfoot from a badly broken leg, and it seems permanent. However it is only a problem barefoot. Wearing shoes running it is pretty much fine. I think he was more just taking a year off. His sister perked him up noticeably after the olympics. I wonder…..

[nomorezorro]

It was ugly early dude. It stayed kind of weird, but Lazor seemed to get control of the game back later from his master

what sort of back and forth wrangling for playcalling responsibilities are you envisioning happening over the course of the game man. do you think lazor starts off running plays and nagy gets all worked up and goes “i can’t take it anymore i love calling plays i just have to do it!!!” and he does it for a stretch until lazor convinces him to quit

the offense as a whole is not good by the standard of nfl offenses. you can just say it sucks without parceling out specific blame for nagy for all the worst parts and no credit to him for the parts that work ok

[fleet]

(stubs my toe) looks like nagy can't leave well enough alone and is insisting on running the offense himself again. unreal
(finds $20 in an old pair of pants) good to see lazor is reasserting his control of playcalling duties

Well if you want to continue posting personal attacks and baiting people, that’s kind of douchey. If Nagy is such a boyfriend that criticism is so offensive to you that it causes a preoccupation with controling other peoples thoughts, maybe put the pipe down.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

It was ugly early dude. It stayed kind of weird, but Lazor seemed to get control of the game back later from his master

what sort of back and forth wrangling for playcalling responsibilities are you envisioning happening over the course of the game man. do you think lazor starts off running plays and nagy gets all worked up and goes “i can’t take it anymore i love calling plays i just have to do it!!!” and he does it for a stretch until lazor convinces him to quit

the offense as a whole is not good by the standard of nfl offenses. you can just say it sucks without parceling out specific blame for nagy for all the worst parts and no credit to him for the parts that work ok

I agree, Nagy isn't a good coach by any stretch of the imagination. Unbelievable what we have to resort to to point these things out. Oh well, another win under his belt

[Susan]

(stubs my toe) looks like nagy can't leave well enough alone and is insisting on running the offense himself again. unreal
(finds $20 in an old pair of pants) good to see lazor is reasserting his control of playcalling duties

Well if you want to continue posting personal attacks and baiting people, that’s kind of douchey. If Nagy is such a boyfriend that criticism is so offensive to you that it causes a preoccupation with controling other peoples thoughts, maybe put the pipe down.

You're going off on unfounded things though. You're not the only one, it was a thing on twitter as well but man, we have no freaking clue what the gameplan was.

Lazor fully committed to the running game, Nagy has never truly committed to the running game. Additionally, Justin wasn't overly accurate down the field today and considering the game script, there's no point in risking turnovers.

They just won on the road, against a pretty decent team with a pretty good QB, a coach with a ring without their best offensive weapon and a rookie QB. That's not easy to do and for all of the heat he got for whole Fields/Dalton thing, this team is 3-2 and he seems to have worked on his issues and has the team on a good track right now. This entire season is free money as our old friend Tyrus Thomas would say - just enjoy it.

[fleet]

(stubs my toe) looks like nagy can't leave well enough alone and is insisting on running the offense himself again. unreal
(finds $20 in an old pair of pants) good to see lazor is reasserting his control of playcalling duties

Well if you want to continue posting personal attacks and baiting people, that’s kind of douchey. If Nagy is such a boyfriend that criticism is so offensive to you that it causes a preoccupation with controling other peoples thoughts, maybe put the pipe down.

You're going off on unfounded things though. You're not the only one, it was a thing on twitter as well but man, we have no freaking clue what the gameplan was.

Lazor fully committed to the running game, Nagy has never truly committed to the running game. Additionally, Justin wasn't overly accurate down the field today and considering the game script, there's no point in risking turnovers.

They just won on the road, against a pretty decent team with a pretty good QB, a coach with a ring without their best offensive weapon and a rookie QB. That's not easy to do and for all of the heat he got for whole Fields/Dalton thing, this team is 3-2 and he seems to have worked on his issues and has the team on a good track right now. This entire season is free money as our old friend Tyrus Thomas would say - just enjoy it.

It isn’t only the running attack, which was good. What finally unlocked Justin in passing plays was play action and protections they ran against Detroit. It looked to me they watered it down today and went away from that somewhat… and Justin had issues getting hit and looked confused again. I find it hard to believe Lazor would ever on his own make these decisions based on Trubisky last year and Detroit game this year. Nagy had his hand in the cookie jar, had to be. It was hilarious that he couldn’t grab his Denny’s menu fast enough when Dalton took a couple snaps. Hes dying.

[Dresden]

i think my favorite compulsion is when play-call tea-leaf readers are like "yeah, offense is humming, good thing nagy gave up playcalling duties!" and then when there are a few ineffective plays in a row they go "idk i think nagy might have started calling plays again in the second half..."

-

That drive smelled like Nagy.

This is not the same style offense we saw last week.

They aren’t scoring again. Nagy is going into a shell

Lazor seems fully back control now.

Have a feeling Nagy must be harassing Lazor. For some Nagy reason they actually ran some 5 man protect as well that predictably failed and should be banned. For the most part they ran out of the extra blocker sets, and Justin handed the ball off dropping back.

lol

Any plays that yield more than 5 yards: "Must be a Lazor play"
Any plays that yield less: "Nagy must have called that one".