NBA Preseason Game Thread 2021

youngthegiant · Post #521 » by **youngthegiant** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:07 am

Lakers are going to be in the play in again. That's a lock.

God Squad · Post #522 » by **God Squad** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:08 am

yoyoboy wrote:15 points
10 rebounds
4 assists
3 blocks
2 steals
1 turnover

Good night for the rook.

He had himself a game. He's been great on defense from the get go. Offense will take time, but these are the flashes you want to see.

God Squad · Post #523 » by **God Squad** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:10 am

Westbrook is who we all thought he was.

JujitsuFlip · Post #524 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:13 am

Statlanta wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
the whole point of drafting mobley is he plays 3 postions. lauri plays 3 positons too. allen is the only traditional center thats an odd fit.

I do not disagree, it's just only 1 of the 3 can stretch the floor. None of the 3 can defend opposing teams SF. Most, if not all of the 3 will have difficulty defending the current era PF.

Plus, they were more successful with all 3 out there since the Cavs lack any real wing players. Also not having ball hog Sexton out there I'm sure helped too.

I just don't know in today's NBA how successful or sustainable playing three 7 footers together really is.

It reeks of desperation. I remember when Frank Vogel had to trot out Biyombo and Vucevic lineups and play Aaron Gordon at the 3 just to fit the roster construction Rob Hennigan provided of having Gordon, Ibaka, Biyombo, Vucevic, Birch.

Oof. Yeah, the Garland/Sexton backcourt is equally a questionable fit.

zshawn10 · Post #525 » by **zshawn10** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:56 am

Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

God Squad · Post #526 » by **God Squad** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:58 am

zshawn10 wrote:Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

He's f'n awful at basketball. I don't care about the occasional hot streak he'll get on, this guy is a total negative.

John Murdoch · Post #527 » by **John Murdoch** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:56 am

Nunn should take more shots tbh

God Squad · Post #528 » by **God Squad** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:09 am

John Murdoch wrote:Nunn should take more shots tbh

Getting Monk back will be huge for the Lakers. Anything to take the ball out of Melo/Bazemore/Ellington hands.

JN61 · Post #529 » by **JN61** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:00 pm

God Squad wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

He's f'n awful at basketball. I don't care about the occasional hot streak he'll get on, this guy is a total negative.

Yawn... He is shooting at ELITE 40% from 3 point line. How about that?

mademan · Post #530 » by **mademan** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:36 pm

zshawn10 wrote:Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

I like the Lakers offseason minus the WB acquisition. Nunn/Bazemore/Melo/Wayne were much needed shooting improvements, but they shoulda just kept KCP/Caruso. I think Nunn wouldve been enough as a secondary playmaker

OrlMagic05 · Post #531 » by **OrlMagic05** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:20 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Jalen Suggs not blowing by anyone and that is a problem for a lead NBA guard - franchise point guards have that first step at the very least. also no shot. maybe he will have a bad rookie season but its all preseason and he can definitely improve over the course of the season.

I know you Raptor fans are still selling yourselves on Barnes (who I like a lot), but I have noticed Raptors fans sure have a lot to say about Suggs lol. Its preseason.. Lets calm down. Trae Young had one of the Worst Summer League/Preseasons and look at him now. We are not running one play for the guys and is playing lead guard which he wont be playing once Fultz comes back. He will be fine once he starts playing off the ball more.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #532 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:29 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Jalen Suggs not blowing by anyone and that is a problem for a lead NBA guard - franchise point guards have that first step at the very least. also no shot. maybe he will have a bad rookie season but its all preseason and he can definitely improve over the course of the season.

I know you Raptor fans are still selling yourselves on Barnes (who I like a lot), but I have noticed Raptors fans sure have a lot to say about Suggs lol. Its preseason.. Lets calm down. Trae Young had one of the Worst Summer League/Preseasons and look at him now. We are not running one play for the guys and is playing lead guard which he wont be playing once Fultz comes back. He will be fine once he starts playing off the ball more.

We can still say he sucks in preseason and invisible for the most part. We aren’t saying anything that isn’t true. He’s played, what, 3 games, and hasn’t looked impressive at all. It’s the general preseason thread - where we are talking current performances and not damning him for his career lol get a hold of yourself.

tamaraw08 · Post #533 » by **tamaraw08** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:40 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Statlanta wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I do not disagree, it's just only 1 of the 3 can stretch the floor. None of the 3 can defend opposing teams SF. Most, if not all of the 3 will have difficulty defending the current era PF.

Plus, they were more successful with all 3 out there since the Cavs lack any real wing players. Also not having ball hog Sexton out there I'm sure helped too.

I just don't know in today's NBA how successful or sustainable playing three 7 footers together really is.

It reeks of desperation. I remember when Frank Vogel had to trot out Biyombo and Vucevic lineups and play Aaron Gordon at the 3 just to fit the roster construction Rob Hennigan provided of having Gordon, Ibaka, Biyombo, Vucevic, Birch.
Oof. Yeah, the Garland/Sexton backcourt is equally a questionable fit.

Sexton and Love, FRP for Ben Simmons. Emibiid now will have Love and Sexton in his team.

tamaraw08 · Post #534 » by **tamaraw08** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:43 pm

mademan wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

I like the Lakers offseason minus the WB acquisition. Nunn/Bazemore/Melo/Wayne were much needed shooting improvements, but they shoulda just kept KCP/Caruso. I think Nunn wouldve been enough as a secondary playmaker

In other words, should have kept everyone... or Trade Kuz and KCP for Hield.

ellobo · Post #535 » by **ellobo** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:56 pm

I watched some of the 2nd quarter of Milwaukee-OKC but abandoned it at the half because OKC's defensive effort was so poor.

I thought it was very telling that when Milwaukee had a bad defensive possession, even with mostly reserves out there, Bud immediately called a timeout. With OKC, there was zero urgency to establish a defensive identity, just lackadaisical possession after lackadaisical possession, minute after minute.

I saw the same urgency from Thibodeau in the Knicks-Wizards game. A bad defensive possession and an immediately timeout so people can get talked to about it.

I got a strong vibe that OKC just didn't have the same sense of accountability. Even the Process Sixers actually played hard, even with a sub-G League roster.

mademan · Post #536 » by **mademan** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:07 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
mademan wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Russell Westbrook checks out: 3/12 FG, 8/2/5 with 9 turnovers, -14 in 26 minutes

He’s now 4/17 with 15 turnovers over his first two preseason games

I like the Lakers offseason minus the WB acquisition. Nunn/Bazemore/Melo/Wayne were much needed shooting improvements, but they shoulda just kept KCP/Caruso. I think Nunn wouldve been enough as a secondary playmaker

In other words, should have kept everyone... or Trade Kuz and KCP for Hield.

I love the Nunn/Dwight pickup. Bazmeore/Melo/Ariza were fine as well. The WB trade was both unnecessary and a huge negative imo. Made no sense at the time and i cant imagine it working out. WB if nothing else has shown he cant optimize his play with other stars and Lebron isnt exactly KD off the ball

OrlMagic05 · Post #537 » by **OrlMagic05** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:07 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Jalen Suggs not blowing by anyone and that is a problem for a lead NBA guard - franchise point guards have that first step at the very least. also no shot. maybe he will have a bad rookie season but its all preseason and he can definitely improve over the course of the season.

I know you Raptor fans are still selling yourselves on Barnes (who I like a lot), but I have noticed Raptors fans sure have a lot to say about Suggs lol. Its preseason.. Lets calm down. Trae Young had one of the Worst Summer League/Preseasons and look at him now. We are not running one play for the guys and is playing lead guard which he wont be playing once Fultz comes back. He will be fine once he starts playing off the ball more.

We can still say he sucks in preseason and invisible for the most part. We aren’t saying anything that isn’t true. He’s played, what, 3 games, and hasn’t looked impressive at all. It’s the general preseason thread - where we are talking current performances and not damning him for his career lol get a hold of yourself.

You are making it seem like Barnes is blowing up in preseason.. Get a hold of yourself! lol

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #538 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:13 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
I know you Raptor fans are still selling yourselves on Barnes (who I like a lot), but I have noticed Raptors fans sure have a lot to say about Suggs lol. Its preseason.. Lets calm down. Trae Young had one of the Worst Summer League/Preseasons and look at him now. We are not running one play for the guys and is playing lead guard which he wont be playing once Fultz comes back. He will be fine once he starts playing off the ball more.

We can still say he sucks in preseason and invisible for the most part. We aren’t saying anything that isn’t true. He’s played, what, 3 games, and hasn’t looked impressive at all. It’s the general preseason thread - where we are talking current performances and not damning him for his career lol get a hold of yourself.

You are making it seem like Barnes is blowing up in preseason.. Get a hold of yourself! lol

no, i'm just saying Suggs sucks, so far.

Post #539 » by **bisme37** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:58 pm

God Squad wrote:For "NBA ready" and "franchise guy" Suggs has looked the worst of the top 6 imo.

I've seen two games from Suggs so far. And he does look "NBA ready" to me. He had an embarrassing final play last night but aside from that he's very composed for a rookie and ready to be out there. The potential issue I see is the "franchise guy" part. He looks ready to be a role player but he's not asserting himself or impacting the game enough to look like a future star at this point. Just a high end rotation player. Obviously he has a ton of time to turn that around.

OrlMagic05 · Post #540 » by **OrlMagic05** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:08 pm

bisme37 wrote:
God Squad wrote:For "NBA ready" and "franchise guy" Suggs has looked the worst of the top 6 imo.

I've seen two games from Suggs so far. And he does look "NBA ready" to me. He had an embarrassing final play last night but aside from that he's very composed for a rookie and ready to be out there. The potential issue I see is the "franchise guy" part. He looks ready to be a role player but he's not asserting himself or impacting the game enough to look like a future star at this point. Just a high end rotation player. Obviously he has a ton of time to turn that around.

Watching all games so far, what I have gotten from Suggs is that he is not a PG and is currently playing PG which he has not looked good in that role. I think getting Fultz back will help Suggs a lot by playing off the ball and not needing to setup his teammates. I am not too worried as coach Mosley also has put him in different situations that hes not used to which is why I think his numbers have been bad.