With the 4th Pick, the Raptors select Scottie Barnes! Part 2

[Danny1616]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

Siakam is 27 and OG is 24.

Players usually hit their primes around 28-31.

[Reeko]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

OG's prime is literally still 3 years away.

[raptorforlife88]

1) Nothings funny here. I don’t know why you’re laughing.

2) When you’re a franchise that no free agents wants to play for, it’s extremely important to hit on your lottery picks.

3) I don’t care if the superstar rate in the top 5 is 5%. If the Raps have a top 5 pick, they better get a superstar. Anything less is wasted.

4) If Scottie doesn’t win ROY and makes it on DPOY then why did we draft him?!? They would have been better served trading down and acquiring assets for depth.

5) When you have a top 5 pick, you take your shot and you don’t miss. Anything else is inexcusable.

By a mile some of the worst posts I've seen in a row here.

There's just not much point to watching the NBA if understanding the relative value of picks is incomprehensible to you.

And why does it matter if Scottie wins ROY. It matters if he's a great player two or three years from now and he obviously has a longer development curve.

I suppose watching Giannis or Kawhi you would have labelled those guys as bad picks early on given they took time to develop as well.

[AsparaGus]

1) Nothings funny here. I don’t know why you’re laughing.

2) When you’re a franchise that no free agents wants to play for, it’s extremely important to hit on your lottery picks.

3) I don’t care if the superstar rate in the top 5 is 5%. If the Raps have a top 5 pick, they better get a superstar. Anything less is wasted.

4) If Scottie doesn’t win ROY and makes it on DPOY then why did we draft him?!? They would have been better served trading down and acquiring assets for depth.

5) When you have a top 5 pick, you take your shot and you don’t miss. Anything else is inexcusable.

By a mile some of the worst posts I've seen in a row here.

There's just not much point to watching the NBA if understanding the relative value of picks is incomprehensible to you.

And why does it matter if Scottie wins ROY. It matters if he's a great player two or three years from now and he obviously has a longer development curve.

I suppose watching Giannis or Kawhi you would have labelled those guys as bad picks early on given they took time to develop as well.

You’re the worst type of person to engage in conversation.

Things don’t go your way and you resort to ad hominem attacks. This is indicative of a person that is weak of mind.

You don’t want to hear my point of view. You want to hear your point of view come out of my mouth.

You do understand that confirmation bias is a form of cognitive dissonance. You won’t be able to get though your adult life without listening to alternative points of view.

You understand that right? Grown man?

[anotherhomer]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

Mobley is the player that Raps wanted, but he wouldn't had dominated right away....he still needs 2-3 years to hit his stride.

[AsparaGus]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

OG's prime is literally still 3 years away.

30 years old is prime? Since when? Prime is 25-30.

[AsparaGus]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

Mobley is the player that Raps wanted, but he wouldn't had dominated right away....he still needs 2-3 years to hit his stride.

Looks pretty dominant to me.

[raptorforlife88]

1) Nothings funny here. I don’t know why you’re laughing.

2) When you’re a franchise that no free agents wants to play for, it’s extremely important to hit on your lottery picks.

3) I don’t care if the superstar rate in the top 5 is 5%. If the Raps have a top 5 pick, they better get a superstar. Anything less is wasted.

4) If Scottie doesn’t win ROY and makes it on DPOY then why did we draft him?!? They would have been better served trading down and acquiring assets for depth.

5) When you have a top 5 pick, you take your shot and you don’t miss. Anything else is inexcusable.

By a mile some of the worst posts I've seen in a row here.

There's just not much point to watching the NBA if understanding the relative value of picks is incomprehensible to you.

And why does it matter if Scottie wins ROY. It matters if he's a great player two or three years from now and he obviously has a longer development curve.

I suppose watching Giannis or Kawhi you would have labelled those guys as bad picks early on given they took time to develop as well.

You’re the worst type of person to engage in conversation.

Things don’t go your way and you resort to ad hominem attacks. This is indicative of a person that is weak of mind.

You don’t want to hear my point of view. You want to hear your point of view come out of my mouth.

You do understand that confirmation bias is a form of cognitive dissonance. You won’t be able to get though your adult life without listening to alternative points of view.

You understand that right? Grown man?

Well I mean you are the person currently trolling the board by spamming trollish content. That's one way to spend grown up life I guess. My fault for engaging honestly. Should have realized between your posts here and in the game thread.

Carry on till you are stopped I suppose.

[Danny1616]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

OG's prime is literally still 3 years away.

30 years old is prime? Since when? Prime is 25-30.

So according to your own definition 3 years down the line is not wasting Siakam and OG's prime. Siakam will be 30 and OG will be 27, right in their primes, lol.

[Reeko]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

OG's prime is literally still 3 years away.

30 years old is prime? Since when? Prime is 25-30.

OG is 24, in 3 years he'll be 27. You don't know anything about the team or its players. Time for you to take some time off.

[Danny1616]

1) Nothings funny here. I don’t know why you’re laughing.

2) When you’re a franchise that no free agents wants to play for, it’s extremely important to hit on your lottery picks.

3) I don’t care if the superstar rate in the top 5 is 5%. If the Raps have a top 5 pick, they better get a superstar. Anything less is wasted.

4) If Scottie doesn’t win ROY and makes it on DPOY then why did we draft him?!? They would have been better served trading down and acquiring assets for depth.

5) When you have a top 5 pick, you take your shot and you don’t miss. Anything else is inexcusable.

By a mile some of the worst posts I've seen in a row here.

There's just not much point to watching the NBA if understanding the relative value of picks is incomprehensible to you.

And why does it matter if Scottie wins ROY. It matters if he's a great player two or three years from now and he obviously has a longer development curve.

I suppose watching Giannis or Kawhi you would have labelled those guys as bad picks early on given they took time to develop as well.

You’re the worst type of person to engage in conversation.

Things don’t go your way and you resort to ad hominem attacks. This is indicative of a person that is weak of mind.

You don’t want to hear my point of view. You want to hear your point of view come out of my mouth.

You do understand that confirmation bias is a form of cognitive dissonance. You won’t be able to get though your adult life without listening to alternative points of view.

You understand that right? Grown man?

You made your own thread basically saying Barnes was a wasted pick and we should have traded for Mobley based on 3-4 pre-season games.

You then declared that even if Barnes reaches Lamar Odom potential he's a wasted pick despite Lamar Odom being better than the heavy majority of #4 overall picks.

You then said that we shouldn't waste Siakam and OG's prime even if Barnes to develop into something special because it would take 3-4 years and their primes would be wasted. Ironically, you then stated prime years are 25-30 which means Pascal and OG would be right in their primes in 3-4 years.

This is fun.

[Reeko]

I got him up outta here for an hour. If he comes back again, it'll be for longer.

[everdiso]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

Good thing he's dominating, then.

[everdiso]

I don't get the Odom comp really. He was never a pass-first high-IQ type like Scottie clearly is, nor was he ever a great defender.

[vado]

Scottie is either going to be a glue guy or a star. The potential is crazy though

[mdenny]

The Raptors need him to dominate now. Not 3-4 years from now. That’s a waste of Siakam and OG’s prime years.

Mobley is the player that Raps wanted, but he wouldn't had dominated right away....he still needs 2-3 years to hit his stride.

I'm curious what that package looked like. I remember hearing they made an offer.

Maybe 4, our 2 seconds and Boucher? I'm guessing it was more than that.

[B-Ball Freak]

Lol y'all getting trolled by this dude with 55 posts from Boston.

[Reeko]

I really hope the 3 ball starts going in for him soon, because my man is shooting 0% from 3 on almost 2 attempts per game. The form looks good, I think he just needs to see the ball go in and the confidence will start to build from there.

[Badonkadonk]

Lol y'all getting trolled by this dude with 55 posts from Boston.

Yeah, took a look at his profile and just assumed he's here to piss people off.

His "If Scottie doesn't average 20/8/10" new topic was the cherry on top of the troll pie. I think Westbrook has done it twice and Harden once, and those are the only guys in the past few decades to post those averages.

For anybody who cares to check (just click through the different years):

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&CF=PTS*GE*20:REB*GE*8:AST*GE*10&Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

[mdenny]

I really hope the 3 ball starts going in for him soon, because my man is shooting 0% from 3 on almost 2 attempts per game. The form looks good, I think he just needs to see the ball go in and the confidence will start to build from there.

I can only remember 1 attempt and it was catch and shoot. Looked REALLY bad but that might have just been a preparation mistake.

Judging from our other players taking "night school" for shooting...it'll probably be a year or 2 til we see strides in 3 point shooting. Norm and OG both took around 2 years if memory serves.

I've posted about my own shooting progress. I'm up to 50% from college 3's now. Been a year since i became obsessed. Started at 40% from FT line. Up to 75-80% now. 1 to 2 hours per day. Around 150 shots per day and i count all makes/misses. My gf has grown to resent it lol.

One thing i've learned....if i'm having a bad day....go back to the FT line to figure out what's wrong.