If Push Came to Shove... (Irving Trade)

[gigantes]

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either...

From one human being to another, go f--ck yourself, Papi.

People like you are exactly the reason why this sh-t rages on, becoming deadlier by mutational turn, and why our ancestors (who actually understood how vaccines work) are fr-ggin' laughing at us.

[malik959]

I’ve lost an aunt and nearly lost my daughter and sister in-law due to this deadly virus. People have got to take it serious. To me Kyrie doesn’t care about his teammates by deciding that he will only play half of their games to include the playoffs when they need him most. I was in the military when we were test dummies for anthrax shots where we had no choice but to take it. Kyrie has a choice in which he is taking the selfish route. Either go to another team or retire, it’s as simple as that. Why turn your back on your team? I see why a lot of fans are disgusted with him, your organization is paying millions to play, not $20 an hour, millions.
As far as the Ben Simmons discussion, as a Knicks fan I would hate for you guys to get a lock down player to go beside Durant and Harden. Nobody was complaining about Ben when they went to the finals.

[LOUiS-D]

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either...

From one human being to another, go f--ck yourself, Papi.

People like you are exactly the reason why this sh-t rages on, becoming deadlier by mutational turn, and why our ancestors (who actually understood how vaccines work) are fr-ggin' laughing at us.

I get the frustration...

We collectively have to stop talking to each other like this. It's ugly. Yes people dying and losing their livelihoods is uglier, but we can't keep going on like this. Division is getting every bit as endemic as covid-19.

[MrDollarBills]

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^this is what concerns me about the season. Breakthrough infections, asymptomatic or symptomatic can occur. Kyrie being unvacccinated and being allowed to practice (I assume he will be tested daily, and I hope it's thoroughly) and travel with the team on road games puts everyone at risk of having to miss time due to safety protocols. God forbid we are in the playoffs and KD gets Covid from this idiot.

Dude is not displaying an ounce of leadership here. He's frankly selfish, on top of whatever crazy sh*t that he believes.

My hope is that he gets so frustrated with how stringent he is being treated and isolated from the team due to safety protocols that he just retires. He's going to look crazy when the team is on to road and he can't even sit with everyone for dinner

[MrDollarBills]

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either...

From one human being to another, go f--ck yourself, Papi.

People like you are exactly the reason why this sh-t rages on, becoming deadlier by mutational turn, and why our ancestors (who actually understood how vaccines work) are fr-ggin' laughing at us.

I get the frustration...

We collectively have to stop talking to each other like this. It's ugly. Yes people dying and losing their livelihoods is uglier, but we can't keep going on like this. Division is getting every bit as endemic as covid-19.

I think at least on here between us fans we can keep it civil between each other about each other's statuses. I'm not gonna cuss someone out because they aren't vaccinated. I would however encourage them to do so and hope for their safety.

That being said, just like unvaccinated people have every right not to be vaccinated for whatever reason, vaccinated people also have the right to be upset with them. It takes two to tango here and the frustration is real and legitimate. The USA is far below the threshold required to end this pandemic and people refusing to be vaccinated is the reason why. I'm sure everyone wants life to return to normal, but it will not as long as we're at a 50% vaccination rate.

[MrDollarBills]

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This is the snowball effect from Kyrie's decision. Once he started to signal that he wasn't going to get vaccinated, Harden started talking about testing free agency. Dude is f*cking everything up.

Joe Tsai isn't going to pay 50 million a season to someone who only cares enough to play in what, 38 games at most? And Harden isn't going to stay if this season turns into chaos because of Kyrie.

At least we have KD locked in, so even if we have to part ways with both guys I'm sure others will line up to play with him here.

[Johnny Tomala]

Kyrie is pathetic. I'm done with him. I defended him before against hate on General Board but this time he crossed the line. He is so selfish and insecure. I don't think anyone can persuade him to take vaccine.

[HardenGoat]

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This is the snowball effect from Kyrie's decision. Once he started to signal that he wasn't going to get vaccinated, Harden started talking about testing free agency. Dude is f*cking everything up.

Joe Tsai isn't going to pay 50 million a season to someone who only cares enough to play in what, 38 games at most? And Harden isn't going to stay if this season turns into chaos because of Kyrie.

At least we have KD locked in, so even if we have to part ways with both guys I'm sure others will line up to play with him here.

If Kyrie ruins this season I could see Harden taking a stand against the organization and giving them the choice between him or Kyrie. Harden just wants to win at any cost.

[MrDollarBills]

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This is the snowball effect from Kyrie's decision. Once he started to signal that he wasn't going to get vaccinated, Harden started talking about testing free agency. Dude is f*cking everything up.

Joe Tsai isn't going to pay 50 million a season to someone who only cares enough to play in what, 38 games at most? And Harden isn't going to stay if this season turns into chaos because of Kyrie.

At least we have KD locked in, so even if we have to part ways with both guys I'm sure others will line up to play with him here.

If Kyrie ruins this season I could see Harden taking a stand against the organization and giving them the choice between him or Kyrie. Harden just wants to win at any cost.

Yeah. Like KD and Kyrie are close but I don't know how close Harden and Kyrie are.

If it takes Harden drawing the line in the sand for KD to stop protecting Kyrie, so be it.

[MrDollarBills]

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving isn’t getting the usual conditioning in preparation for a long NBA season.

The 29-year-old is expected to miss all four preseason games and wasn’t eligible to practice with the team until this past weekend because of his unvaccinated status. Unless he decides to get vaccinated against COVID-19, he will remain ineligible to play in home games, per New York City ordinance.

There’s now speculation on whether Irving will be conditioned enough by the time the season starts.

On Sunday, Nets head coach Steve Nash admitted that this situation might lead to the seven-time All-Star losing his starting position — at least temporarily.

Nash said “it’s possible” that he might bring Irving off the bench in the regular season, according to Brian Lewis of the New York Post.

He absolutely should be demoted. Why should he start if he isn't committed to the team?

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The Heat are fully vaccinated. They are serious about this and about winning. You think Jimmy Butler would coddle any teammate refusing to get vaccinated? KD needs to wake up man. All this nonsense is going to cost the Nets everything

[jirrit]

Nonsense, vaccines don't stop covid, Jaylen Brown just got infected and he is vaccinated. You are free to take it if that makes you feel safe, or you can go and find that cave to hide there, but everybody has a personal choice and that won't change.

The vaccine wasn't created to prevent you from acquiring covid, it helps prevent severe symptoms that can lead to death. But you probably think otherwise since you sound like one of those that knows more then people that work in the medical field.

Kyrie won't develop severe symptoms so he has the right to refuse it. I've had covid twice, so I know what I'm talking about.

Quote of the year right here.

[Papi_swav]

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either...

From one human being to another, go f--ck yourself, Papi.

People like you are exactly the reason why this sh-t rages on, becoming deadlier by mutational turn, and why our ancestors (who actually understood how vaccines work) are fr-ggin' laughing at us.

You have your opinion I have mines. It's not my job to make you feel safe or anyone else around you, that's the vaccines job.

[jirrit]

Yea I agree with Kyrie not wanting the shot, because I don't have the vaccine either...

From one human being to another, go f--ck yourself, Papi.

People like you are exactly the reason why this sh-t rages on, becoming deadlier by mutational turn, and why our ancestors (who actually understood how vaccines work) are fr-ggin' laughing at us.

You have your opinion I have mines. It's not my job to make you feel safe or anyone else around you, that's the vaccines job.

Another contender.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

[Pablo Escobar]

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving isn’t getting the usual conditioning in preparation for a long NBA season.

The 29-year-old is expected to miss all four preseason games and wasn’t eligible to practice with the team until this past weekend because of his unvaccinated status. Unless he decides to get vaccinated against COVID-19, he will remain ineligible to play in home games, per New York City ordinance.

There’s now speculation on whether Irving will be conditioned enough by the time the season starts.

On Sunday, Nets head coach Steve Nash admitted that this situation might lead to the seven-time All-Star losing his starting position — at least temporarily.

Nash said “it’s possible” that he might bring Irving off the bench in the regular season, according to Brian Lewis of the New York Post.

He absolutely should be demoted. Why should he start if he isn't committed to the team?

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The Heat are fully vaccinated. They are serious about this and about winning. You think Jimmy Butler would coddle any teammate refusing to get vaccinated? KD needs to wake up man. All this nonsense is going to cost the Nets everything

Pat Riley runs a tight ship. You think Qyrie could pull the shenanigans he does on the Heat? he'd trade his ass if he was going to miss all home reg season plus playoff games.

[MrDollarBills]

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving isn’t getting the usual conditioning in preparation for a long NBA season.

The 29-year-old is expected to miss all four preseason games and wasn’t eligible to practice with the team until this past weekend because of his unvaccinated status. Unless he decides to get vaccinated against COVID-19, he will remain ineligible to play in home games, per New York City ordinance.

There’s now speculation on whether Irving will be conditioned enough by the time the season starts.

On Sunday, Nets head coach Steve Nash admitted that this situation might lead to the seven-time All-Star losing his starting position — at least temporarily.

Nash said “it’s possible” that he might bring Irving off the bench in the regular season, according to Brian Lewis of the New York Post.

He absolutely should be demoted. Why should he start if he isn't committed to the team?

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The Heat are fully vaccinated. They are serious about this and about winning. You think Jimmy Butler would coddle any teammate refusing to get vaccinated? KD needs to wake up man. All this nonsense is going to cost the Nets everything

Pat Riley runs a tight ship. You think Qyrie could pull the shenanigans he does on the Heat? he'd trade his ass if he was going to miss all home reg season plus playoff games.

Durant is protecting Irving. Trust me, the notion that Marks, Nash and Joe Tsai are happy with Kyrie is complete bull sh*t. This is only being tolerated because Durant hasn't given up on him.

KD is about to learn a hard lesson about how friendship and business don't mix.

[Ksny13]

The Nets have to try and trade Kyrie. This is absolutely ridiculous and completely selfish of him as not only a human being but a teammate. What will be his plan next year? Or the year after? Will he just miss Brooklyn games forever? I’m assuming Kyrie understands that this is a pandemic and this isn’t going to magically go away. This is a crucial blow for Brooklyn. Hypothetically if Brooklyn makes the finals vs LA which is very very likely Kyrie wont be able to play in a single game. That’s crazy. I would have to image behind closed doors everyone in Brooklyn is upset about this.

You guys should be very concerned with Harden’s looking decision as well. He only cares about winning and if Brooklyn can’t get it done this year there is a strong possibility he will look elsewhere.

[GTR11]

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I expect slow start and things to escalate from it. It's pragmatic harsh reality in my opinion.

[NyCeEvO]

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This is the snowball effect from Kyrie's decision. Once he started to signal that he wasn't going to get vaccinated, Harden started talking about testing free agency. Dude is f*cking everything up.

Joe Tsai isn't going to pay 50 million a season to someone who only cares enough to play in what, 38 games at most? And Harden isn't going to stay if this season turns into chaos because of Kyrie.

At least we have KD locked in, so even if we have to part ways with both guys I'm sure others will line up to play with him here.

Doesn’t Harden stand to make more money if he becomes a free agent anyway? If so, I’m not worried about him at all.

I’d only be concerned about him leaving if the Lakers had the cap space to sign him, but since they don’t (I assume, haven’t looked it up) I don’t think we’ll really be in serious competition with any other team for his services. Plus, other teams don’t have an elite off-ball superstar like KD, whose game isn’t predicted on ball domination like Harden. It’s as good of a high level talent match as you can ask for. I think Harden knows this.

[MrDollarBills]

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I expect slow start and things to escalate from it. It's pragmatic harsh reality in my opinion.

Yeah I don't think Woj is just speculating. Dude has sources.

This is going to get ugly, and it's going to have to. The team looked unfocused last night. I can't help but think that the Kyrie situation is weighing on the team.

He needs to be declared inactive indefinitely.

[HardenGoat]

What boggles my mind is the message Kyrie is sending to the very people he claims to represent. If you just look at hospital data 86 percent of all hospitalizations are unvaccinated. 90-94 percent of ICU COVID cases are unvaccinated. The vaccination rate is around 50 percent overall. Here is the percentage of minorities that are currently vaccinated. Kyrie by getting vaccinated would help save lives especially if he assumed a vocal leadership role in doing so. He would also be able to help his team achieve their lifelong championship goals, be at less risk to have serious complications, and earn 17 million doing so. It’s really unbelievable…