Masai Ujiri is Overrated

[CIN-C-STAR]

This has already been covered ... Lowry asked to not be traded because he wanted to finish the year with his guys.

If the Raptors found a no brainer deal, I'm sure they would have taken it ... but for an adequate return, they figured give Lowry the closure he wants and get something in the summer. Which they did.

I don't understand how people outside Toronto STILL think Masai is the GM.

He isn't.

He hasn't been the GM for 5 years!! There have been 2 others in that role since he moved to President.

Referring to him as the GM does 2 things. Disrespect their actual GM Bobby Webster, and identifies that you don't actually know anything about Toronto or Masai Ujiri.

Masai is the best executive in the NBA ... not just fot his on court results but what he's done to grow the game overseas and his philanthropic endeavors as well.

If he was running the Knicks or Heat or Lakers... people would take about him as if he was an actual super hero

Can you provide a source for this?.

Lowry only confirmed that he asked not to be traded (at the deadline) in an interview this week. He said it was his choice and he wanted to play out the season in Toronto.

Thanks hadn't seen those remarks yet.

[bluerap23]

They move Lowry for Dragic who refuses to play for them. They then decide to not draft the BPA and elite prospect guard, Jalen Suggs. Who should have been the face of the PG spot moving foward. This team seems like it has no real direction given the past 2 years worth of transactions. Kawhi left, Marc, Ibaka, Powell, Lowry. Who is next? Siakam?

They have a good scouting team so I give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if Suggs goes on blow up in Orlando, and Barnes becomes just another role player or he busts, its going to haunt this team for years.

A lot of Raptor fans are going to come in and defend the hell out of him and I completely understand. I'm just stating that from the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. And on a side note - I like Barnes. I also like Kuminga, Sengun and Moody too. But not over Suggs. That selection shouldn't have been complicated to make.

This post is not aging well

Dragic is playing and, by all accounts, a happy soldier. In the Lowry deal they also got Precious who is looking like revelation.

Suggs was supposed to be the NBA-ready player and Scottie was supposed to be the project. Scottie already looks light years ahead of Suggs.

Masai has also continued to find hidden gems (Banton, Svi).

Greatest Executive in Franchise history by a few miles.

[TheAlchemist]

Not gonna lie, I was of the camp that he is overrated as well. He completely dismantled the championship team for peanuts.

But OP's points aged horrifically lol.

Scottie Barnes - arguably the best or top 3 rookie in pre-season.
Precious Achiuwa - Looks like he'll be a scoring threat and a double double guy.

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Scottie Barnes looks so damn good, i'm shocked myself as I was a HUGE Jalen Suggs guy. We won't know until the next couple of years though, but damn.

[Big Dog Yank]

Totally overrated. Couldn't sell Kawhi on staying and lost him to a team that will always be second fiddle in their town.

[Madhouse]

They move Lowry for Dragic who refuses to play for them. They then decide to not draft the BPA and elite prospect guard, Jalen Suggs. Who should have been the face of the PG spot moving foward. This team seems like it has no real direction given the past 2 years worth of transactions. Kawhi left, Marc, Ibaka, Powell, Lowry. Who is next? Siakam?

They have a good scouting team so I give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if Suggs goes on blow up in Orlando, and Barnes becomes just another role player or he busts, its going to haunt this team for years.

A lot of Raptor fans are going to come in and defend the hell out of him and I completely understand. I'm just stating that from the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. And on a side note - I like Barnes. I also like Kuminga, Sengun and Moody too. But not over Suggs. That selection shouldn't have been complicated to make.

terrible take.

[DroseReturnChi]

They move Lowry for Dragic who refuses to play for them. They then decide to not draft the BPA and elite prospect guard, Jalen Suggs. Who should have been the face of the PG spot moving foward. This team seems like it has no real direction given the past 2 years worth of transactions. Kawhi left, Marc, Ibaka, Powell, Lowry. Who is next? Siakam?

They have a good scouting team so I give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if Suggs goes on blow up in Orlando, and Barnes becomes just another role player or he busts, its going to haunt this team for years.

A lot of Raptor fans are going to come in and defend the hell out of him and I completely understand. I'm just stating that from the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. And on a side note - I like Barnes. I also like Kuminga, Sengun and Moody too. But not over Suggs. That selection shouldn't have been complicated to make.

terrible take.

its almost op hoped barnes could fail so his hate towards masai is justified. i said a month ago but suggs is not a better prospect than barnes period. barnes is literally the ultimate test of whether ur a good gm or bad bc his box scores was triple single.

[JPriest]

Masai Ujiri went all in with Kawhi and Marc Gasol trades and got lucky when Durant and Klay both got injured. The Bucks GM went all in with Jrue Holiday trade and got lucky when Harden and Kyrie both got injured, but nobody calls him a genius like they do with Masai.
By the same logic they're both geniuses with small market teams?

Difference is Masai didn't sell years of draft capital to get Kawhi or Marc Gasol. Also, the Raptors were competitive against the Warriors through 2018-2019, whereas the Bucks weren't looking too hot when Kyrie was playing. Also, your logic is flawed if you just compare paths to their respective championships, when there are so many other aspects to consider.

[DAcReator]

I’m glad OP’s not my gm. Poor basketball evaluator

[everdiso]

They move Lowry for Dragic who refuses to play for them. They then decide to not draft the BPA and elite prospect guard, Jalen Suggs. Who should have been the face of the PG spot moving foward. This team seems like it has no real direction given the past 2 years worth of transactions. Kawhi left, Marc, Ibaka, Powell, Lowry. Who is next? Siakam?

They have a good scouting team so I give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if Suggs goes on blow up in Orlando, and Barnes becomes just another role player or he busts, its going to haunt this team for years.

A lot of Raptor fans are going to come in and defend the hell out of him and I completely understand. I'm just stating that from the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. And on a side note - I like Barnes. I also like Kuminga, Sengun and Moody too. But not over Suggs. That selection shouldn't have been complicated to make.

[Bornstellar]

Yall bumping this thread because of preseason results are just as silly as the OP of this thread

[everdiso]

Yall bumping this thread because of preseason results are just as silly as the OP of this thread

Nah. 50% as silly AT MOST.

[HMFFL]

Kyle Lowry was leaving Toronto anyways, this trade just helped him go to the team he wanted.

For the Draft pick, neither player has played yet. Assuming someone who is well accomplished is “overrated” because you disagree with a pick they made seems pretty reactionary.

Exactly.
Kyrie knew he wanted to join Miami and living & playing in Tampa didn't help the Raptors case. Kyrie did what was best for him and his family, he is a borderline HOF'er to many, so now he should have success with Miami.



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[LakersLegacy]

He needs to win more so maybe isn’t an option

[5paceman]

I lost respect for him in the incident with stadium security, that he couldn't admit his fault in the situation. In his job you have to know that showing credentials is how you get on court and it's for all players' benefit. If you don't have time to go through that quick process, sit with the team you diva socialite.

[EliteSmarts]

I lost respect for him in the incident with stadium security, that he couldn't admit his fault in the situation. In his job you have to know that showing credentials is how you get on court and it's for all players' benefit. If you don't have time to go through that quick process, sit with the team you diva socialite.

[Dino-Might]

I lost respect for him in the incident with stadium security, that he couldn't admit his fault in the situation. In his job you have to know that showing credentials is how you get on court and it's for all players' benefit. If you don't have time to go through that quick process, sit with the team you diva socialite.

Are you being serious or just trolling?

Did you even see the video? It shows the deputy shoving Masai violently, Masai showing his credentials and the deputy shoving him again a second time for no reason, before Masai pushes him back once. You do know that once the videos were shown, even the prosecutor refused to push forward with charges. The deputy who tried to sue Masai was previously convicted of insurance fraud. He ended up having to drop his lawsuit with no money changing hands most likely because the judge basically told him he would lose and potentially have to pay costs and/or further damages in Masai’s counter suit.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

They move Lowry for Dragic who refuses to play for them. They then decide to not draft the BPA and elite prospect guard, Jalen Suggs. Who should have been the face of the PG spot moving foward. This team seems like it has no real direction given the past 2 years worth of transactions. Kawhi left, Marc, Ibaka, Powell, Lowry. Who is next? Siakam?

They have a good scouting team so I give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if Suggs goes on blow up in Orlando, and Barnes becomes just another role player or he busts, its going to haunt this team for years.

A lot of Raptor fans are going to come in and defend the hell out of him and I completely understand. I'm just stating that from the outside looking in, it doesn't look good. And on a side note - I like Barnes. I also like Kuminga, Sengun and Moody too. But not over Suggs. That selection shouldn't have been complicated to make.

so tell us how you feel now.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Totally overrated. Couldn't sell Kawhi on staying and lost him to a team that will always be second fiddle in their town.

I'm not a leafs fan but Leafs fans have nothing to say when we ridicule the Leafs. up 4-1, up 3-1. truly the laughing stock of Toronto.

[5paceman]

I lost respect for him in the incident with stadium security, that he couldn't admit his fault in the situation. In his job you have to know that showing credentials is how you get on court and it's for all players' benefit. If you don't have time to go through that quick process, sit with the team you diva socialite.

Are you being serious or just trolling?

Did you even see the video? It shows the deputy shoving Masai violently, Masai showing his credentials and the deputy shoving him again a second time for no reason, before Masai pushes him back once. You do know that once the videos were shown, even the prosecutor refused to push forward with charges. The deputy who tried to sue Masai was previously convicted of of fraud. He ended up having to drop his lawsuit with no money changing hands most likely because the judge basically told him he would lose and potentially have to pay costs and/or further damages in Masai’s counter suit.

Yes I watched the video.

What it shows is Masai half trying to pull his ID out and flash it while walking through security. Security who's only job it is to hold a line and take ID to verify whether someone is allowed on court. You have to let them actually read it and verify. half assed flashing it while you walk through the guy is not near good enough. I've commented before, try that at a bar or airport or somewhere else with security.

The first "violent push" occurs when Masai tries to walk through the guy who's doing his job. But the guy is likely supposed to physically stop people from passing him. Masai proceeds forward again, another push. Then yes, the NBA executive who should know better pushes the security back. It's literally his job to know how security at these events work and the securities job to perform that.

But you misunderstand completely, I'm not defending the asinine lawsuit, what I'm saying is that Masai is not without fault. The security guy is an idiot and maybe worse, but this guy is the head of a franchise.

[LoveMyRaps]

OP is a well known Raps hater. Dude continues to make a fool of himself with his Raptors hate threads/posts.