Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[76ciology]

Only chance Harden wants out is if Durant suffers some kind of season-ending injury. Can't see him wanting to drag Blake Griffin through the playoffs by himself.

Other than that, I can't imagine an scenario where Harden asks out of Brooklyn.

Yup.

I can see that happening.

Harden’s decline is going to be steep at some point. And he’s wasting his last good years on this Nets team. For me, his popularity/branding/image has declined rapidly, not just because he missed a lot of games. But it’s because of his limited role on this Nets offense.

Another thing is Nets have too much offensive firepower that it’s getting diminishing return. They have to find a way to max out their talent. There’s no chaos for the opposing team’s defense like when u face one of those great warriors or heat team when they’d run up the score board it feels like ur losing control and it causes a panic on your part.

This “taking turn” offense wont work. Because KD is ATG ISO scorer. These guys would naturally defer to KD. Listening to how players would describe KD, it’s like they’re playing with someone out of this world the common response is.. “its like he’s just shooting over practice cones”.

If Kyrie and Harden are at their peak, they would have asked out already because they’re nothing but back-up options in case KD had an off game which rarely happens. And when Kyrie or Harden is asked to lead, it’s like they’re not used to being alpha anymore.

Nets is a squad that should get you 120-130 pts nightly and have those 150-160pts at some rare nights. But they’re current system is not made for them to do that. What they’re built is to win that ISO contest against teams that you see during the playoffs. And you’re letting a lot of variance play its role with that, like that shot by KD where he made it but had his foot stepping in the line.

Getting 120-130 easy with some rare 150-160 pts should have not put you in that situation.

This nets squad has not reached that point where teams and fans complain how unfair that team’s roster is just as every successful superteam in history.

[eyeatoma]

The second he plays I think it puts into play the possibility he’s not moved until next summer. Not that it would be the most likely possibility or anything but there’s a scenario where no star is available, we are to 1-2 seed, the nets don’t look unbeatable without kyrie, and it just makes more sense to go for it this year.

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

[Sportfan73]

The second he plays I think it puts into play the possibility he’s not moved until next summer. Not that it would be the most likely possibility or anything but there’s a scenario where no star is available, we are to 1-2 seed, the nets don’t look unbeatable without kyrie, and it just makes more sense to go for it this year.

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

[eyeatoma]

The second he plays I think it puts into play the possibility he’s not moved until next summer. Not that it would be the most likely possibility or anything but there’s a scenario where no star is available, we are to 1-2 seed, the nets don’t look unbeatable without kyrie, and it just makes more sense to go for it this year.

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

Interesting

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[Tomjas]

The second he plays I think it puts into play the possibility he’s not moved until next summer. Not that it would be the most likely possibility or anything but there’s a scenario where no star is available, we are to 1-2 seed, the nets don’t look unbeatable without kyrie, and it just makes more sense to go for it this year.

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

[Sportfan73]

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Yeah he will play hard if he plays, and probably more aggressively than ever. Which I think in turn will mean unless there is a star remotely available or we are just bad from an Embiid injury he will be here for the entire season. Just my 2 cents

[76ciology]

I think Ben will play for us. Either on that preseason game or after.

If he’s gonna get traded or just plan to sit it out, he wont go through all the trouble.

While our FO seems to be really decided to go after a top tier star for him. At worst, it can be a means for anchoring where teams who wants Ben without a top tier star would be less likely to give us an unattractive offer.

[Sportfan73]

I think Ben will play for us. Either on that preseason game or after.

If he’s gonna get traded or just plan to sit it out, he wont go through all the trouble.

I agree, and I don’t think is just to raise his value for a week or two. I think we still will want any legit star that comes available but aside from that won’t be really shopping him

[Kobblehead]

I think that only happens if Simmons is playing like his usual self. If he's dogging it, or creating drama look for him to be moved by the deadline regardless of the return, as you don't want to piss off Jo even more.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

[phillynative]

I think Ben will play for us. Either on that preseason game or after.

If he’s gonna get traded or just plan to sit it out, he wont go through all the trouble.

I agree, and I don’t think is just to raise his value for a week or two. I think we still will want any legit star that comes available but aside from that won’t be really shopping him

Why wouldn't they be shopping him? He's going to come back the same player and him playing is just to get his money and recover some of his trade value for both himself and the sixers.

[Tomjas]

Yeah I don’t disagree with that, but I also don’t think he will be dogging it. Also

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Sure sounds like he’s not back to sit out.

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

[Ferry Avenue]

In their efforts to trade Simmons the Sixers are suffering from the fact that other teams aren't viewing Simmons as either 1) the missing piece to get them over the hump to a championship, or 2) a key cornerstone of talent to build around. When a player is neither of those, teams aren't clamoring to trade for him. They'll take him or leave him.

[eyeatoma]

More stuff about the saga by Jake Fisher

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2949337-inside-ben-simmons-roller-coaster-return-to-philadelphia.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true


Philadelphia's most recent list of interested front offices, to varying degrees, still stands at nine known teams, sources said. In alphabetical order: Cleveland, Detroit, Houston, Indiana, Minnesota, Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio and Toronto have all remained engaged with Philadelphia. 
There is a 10th “mystery” franchise that has held substantial trade conversations with Philadelphia of late, sources told B/R, yet it remains unclear, even to members of Klutch Sports, who this purported additional suitor is. No team, however, has come near Morey and the Sixers' firm asking price for Simmons, with simultaneous goals to further their championship contention around Embiid and remain in play to some day acquire a potentially available superstar—either from Portland or Washington, or some other unexpected franchise that will eventually arise.



Ummm... Please be Chicago, OKC or New Orleans...

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[Samson]

LOL @ the Lakers reporter and LeBron's newest mouthpiece is the one who keeps talking about Simmons.

and LOL @ "It's in your F****ING contract!!!" ... I have been saying that for months. This was LeBron pushing Paul to make a powerplay to take over the NBA. We're in charge now, you're not even allowed to be Owners anymore, we decided you could call yourself Governors ... now we decide who gets paid what and when they don't feel like playing, you still have to pay them and they can go wherever they want.

Triple LOL at how the NBA looks after their interests and money. When Morey tweeted about China, everyone from the HOU owner, the NBA commissioner, to Woj all said "WE LOVE CHINA, NOOOO DON"T TAKE YOUR MONEY AWAY!!!" ... the Social Justice War of last year resulted in uniforms, courts, etc. carrying social justice and race-based messages, because they thought it could affect their money if they didn't ... And now, suddenly, Whoah Whoah Whoah... maybe it's bad if we let everyone do whatever they want to do, we pay them anyway, and they tell us to go F ourselves? Maybe we should do something?? === Seems legit. I mean the next step is like how on the show Power, Tariq went on Facebook and made a video saying he hired Davis MacLean - the best defense attorney around (Hilariously, played by Method Man) - even though he had flatly refused to defend Tariq's mom, and said he wouldn't even talk without a $500K retainer ... - so Tarq made a video, "YO GUYS AND GALS, I'm happy to announce Davis MacLean has agreed to defend my Mom, he's very excited to get started, woohoo!" - and so the guy had no choice, or look bad... The next step is basically LeBron to go, "I'm excited to tell everyone now I'm a part-owner of the Lakers and looking to become the full-owner..." when he's not, just forcing their hand in the public eye. Heck, "Guess what, I'm also now a part-owner of the NBA. LeBoss motherbiatches!" You think I'm kidding, wait and see.

[Negrodamus]

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[eyeatoma]

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Lolololol, hilarious, ofcourse.

Explains exactly why we wouldn't even be able to consider trading for Kyrie, because Ben wouldn't even be able to play there.

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[SixthStreet]

If he plays I believe it will be full effort Simmons in games. I have no doubt he'll half effort practices. Because if you have half effort Simmons, is he really even a rotation player for the Sixers? Effort will compromise his defensive and transition impact where he does all his damage.

I think it'll all be back to status quo until the trade comes out of nowhere, which is a good outcome at this stage.

[Philly's Best]

So this dude is going to be a distraction regardless

[Stanford]

LOL

[Sixersftw]

Why can't you just be normal?