Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 4.0

[daoneandonly]

Voice of the voiceless. Not fair that people are losing their job over having to take a safe vaccine. Blah, blah, blah.

Not pertaining to the article as I didn't read it, but there's a lot of hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle here. Those yelling my/her body my/her choice, then requiring a vaccine mandate, and the inverse of those sides, getting ridiculous.

I'm all for the vaccine, I got it the first opportunity people in my age group could, 4 months later, I still got covid. Now I'll get the booster when/if I'm eligible because I believe the vaccine was the 2nd biggest reason my symptoms weren't as bad as they could have been (God was by far the #1 reason I was okay), but let's not pretend the vaccine is without it's flaws or concerns

I really hate to bring this up here but female autonomy and public health mandates are not comparable and it’s disgusting to do so in my opinion.

You dismissing an innocent life is just as disgusting in my opinion, so we can leave it at that. As mentioned, its not necessarily a public thing, I got the vaccine and got covid from a small gathering where everyone was vaccinated, so the unvaccinated do not pose any more risk to those who are vaccinated than their fellow vaccinated counterparts

[BullyKing]

Not pertaining to the article as I didn't read it, but there's a lot of hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle here. Those yelling my/her body my/her choice, then requiring a vaccine mandate, and the inverse of those sides, getting ridiculous.

I'm all for the vaccine, I got it the first opportunity people in my age group could, 4 months later, I still got covid. Now I'll get the booster when/if I'm eligible because I believe the vaccine was the 2nd biggest reason my symptoms weren't as bad as they could have been (God was by far the #1 reason I was okay), but let's not pretend the vaccine is without it's flaws or concerns

I really hate to bring this up here but female autonomy and public health mandates are not comparable and it’s disgusting to do so in my opinion.

You dismissing an innocent life is just as disgusting in my opinion, so we can leave it at that. As mentioned, its not necessarily a public thing, I got the vaccine and got covid from a small gathering where everyone was vaccinated, so the unvaccinated do not pose any more risk to those who are vaccinated than their fellow vaccinated counterparts

Let's get back on topic but I can't in good conscious allow it to end with that demonstrably false statement. There are miles of separation between a vaccine having no impact and a vaccine that, like every vaccine before it, is not 100% efficacious.

In any event let's get back to basketball and we can resume debating the equivalency between abortion and vaccinations as soon as there is the first reported case in human history of someone getting a virus as a result of somebody else's abortion.

[HartfordWhalers]

Did we just get this long drawn out saga for simply Kyrie for Simmons in the end? I get the worries of the Nets being complete, but you can't think like that in competition. If Kyrie is the best player you can get for Simmons, you have to do it. Embiid has been outstanding with a co-star that works against him. Subbing in Kyrie for Simmons gives you a formidable roster to take on Brooklyn with a chip on Kyrie's shoulder too.

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

[daoneandonly]

I really hate to bring this up here but female autonomy and public health mandates are not comparable and it’s disgusting to do so in my opinion.

You dismissing an innocent life is just as disgusting in my opinion, so we can leave it at that. As mentioned, its not necessarily a public thing, I got the vaccine and got covid from a small gathering where everyone was vaccinated, so the unvaccinated do not pose any more risk to those who are vaccinated than their fellow vaccinated counterparts

Let's get back on topic but I can't in good conscious allow it to end with that demonstrably false statement. There are miles of separation between a vaccine having no impact and a vaccine that, like every vaccine before it, is not 100% efficacious.

In any event let's get back to basketball and we can resume debating the equivalency between abortion and vaccinations as soon as there is the first reported case in human history of someone getting a virus as a result of somebody else's abortion.

And you can share your thoughts as you please and the 99.4% liberal biased realgm will adorn you with adulation, but Kyrie, beal, and Issac have just as much right to refuse what they put into their body as a woman has to end a life that's in her body. You have every right to feel as you do, just as I have every right to feel as I do, yes we can leave it at that.

But each and every one of those guys can do as they please and the team can in return do the same. Beal said himself in a presser you get the vaccine and still get covid as one of his reasons, you can say sure no vaccine is 100%, barely anything in life is, but the only thing I've ever gotten after getting a vaccine for is covid, so it is what it is.

Back to basketball, still dont see any rationale for why Kidd is starting Powell and insisting KP is a PF

[HartfordWhalers]

but the only thing I've ever gotten after getting a vaccine for is covid, so it is what it is.

Most people have much worse luck than you with the Flu shot.

[daoneandonly]

but the only thing I've ever gotten after getting a vaccine for is covid, so it is what it is.

Most people have much worse luck than you with the Flu shot.

That very well may be true. As mentioned Im not anti vaccine, by God's grace I only had one bad day with covid, and I dont doubt the vaccine was a big part of that. I just dont care for much of what I've heard as it relates to a vaccine mandate and views on other social issues that I personally find hypocritical, and Im absolutely calling out those who side with me on said issue but think the opposite when it comes to a needed vaccine.

[Lovetron Joe]

Did we just get this long drawn out saga for simply Kyrie for Simmons in the end? I get the worries of the Nets being complete, but you can't think like that in competition. If Kyrie is the best player you can get for Simmons, you have to do it. Embiid has been outstanding with a co-star that works against him. Subbing in Kyrie for Simmons gives you a formidable roster to take on Brooklyn with a chip on Kyrie's shoulder too.

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

Has it been reported that Simmons is unvaccinated? Kind of kills his wish to go to Cali teams.

"Under the NBA's COVID-19 regulations, a fully vaccinated player who is entering a team environment for the first time must return at least one negative result before they can interact with teammates and Tier 1 club staffers."

[daoneandonly]

Yea is that confirmed Simmons isnt vaccinated? That should all but eliminate certain trade talks if he's not planning on doing it

[Scoot McGroot]

To be clear, Kyrie hasn’t changed his public opinion/stance since before there were COVID vaccine mandates. Right?

[toooskies]

but the only thing I've ever gotten after getting a vaccine for is covid, so it is what it is.

Most people have much worse luck than you with the Flu shot.

That very well may be true. As mentioned Im not anti vaccine, by God's grace I only had one bad day with covid, and I dont doubt the vaccine was a big part of that. I just dont care for much of what I've heard as it relates to a vaccine mandate and views on other social issues that I personally find hypocritical, and Im absolutely calling out those who side with me on said issue but think the opposite when it comes to a needed vaccine.

I think the problem is that you view it as a personal health choice (thus the abortion comparison) and not a personal + public health choice.

The vaccine mandate in NYC isn't that you must take the vaccine; it's that you must take the vaccine to do certain things that involve interaction in enclosed spaces with other people. If you haven't had the vaccine, you get to live with your personal consequences, but you also have a responsibility to OTHER people to get the vaccine so that you are less likely to be contagious, are contagious for a shorter period of time, and thus are less likely to pass an infection on to another person.

The vaccine mandate isn't requiring you to do as much as you can to save your own life from COVID; it's requiring you to do the minimum necessary to save others' lives. Same thing with mask mandates before the vaccine-- much more effective at preventing spread if YOU are sick, than it is saving you if someone around you is sick.

[HartfordWhalers]

Did we just get this long drawn out saga for simply Kyrie for Simmons in the end? I get the worries of the Nets being complete, but you can't think like that in competition. If Kyrie is the best player you can get for Simmons, you have to do it. Embiid has been outstanding with a co-star that works against him. Subbing in Kyrie for Simmons gives you a formidable roster to take on Brooklyn with a chip on Kyrie's shoulder too.

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

Has it been reported that Simmons is unvaccinated? Kind of kills his wish to go to Cali teams.

"Under the NBA's COVID-19 regulations, a fully vaccinated player who is entering a team environment for the first time must return at least one negative result before they can interact with teammates and Tier 1 club staffers."

Yes, Ramona Shelbourne has Simmons needing the unvaccinated protocol before interacting with teammates (not until Friday). If he was vaccinated he would be (medically) allowed to practice with teammates now which is reported as not the case.
Now, I guess it is possible that Simmons is fully vaccinated and is intentionally withholding that medical information to avoid seeing Embiid for 4 days but …

[Lovetron Joe]

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

Has it been reported that Simmons is unvaccinated? Kind of kills his wish to go to Cali teams.

"Under the NBA's COVID-19 regulations, a fully vaccinated player who is entering a team environment for the first time must return at least one negative result before they can interact with teammates and Tier 1 club staffers."

Yes, Ramona Shelbourne has Simmons needing the unvaccinated protocol before interacting with teammates (not until Friday). If he was vaccinated he would be (medically) allowed to practice with teammates now which is reported as not the case.
Now, I guess it is possible that Simmons is fully vaccinated and is intentionally withholding that medical information to avoid seeing Embiid for 4 days but …

Thanks!

[Texas Chuck]

Jake Fisher(I know) has 1/3 of the league with at least some interest in Simmons.

[Lovetron Joe]

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

Has it been reported that Simmons is unvaccinated? Kind of kills his wish to go to Cali teams.

"Under the NBA's COVID-19 regulations, a fully vaccinated player who is entering a team environment for the first time must return at least one negative result before they can interact with teammates and Tier 1 club staffers."

Yes, Ramona Shelbourne has Simmons needing the unvaccinated protocol before interacting with teammates (not until Friday). If he was vaccinated he would be (medically) allowed to practice with teammates now which is reported as not the case.
Now, I guess it is possible that Simmons is fully vaccinated and is intentionally withholding that medical information to avoid seeing Embiid for 4 days but …

So he cannot play in NYC (four Knicks/Nets games) LA etc. he would miss 6-7 games without pay. Curious how he got to attend Wimbleton, which required vaccination.

[HartfordWhalers]

Has it been reported that Simmons is unvaccinated? Kind of kills his wish to go to Cali teams.

"Under the NBA's COVID-19 regulations, a fully vaccinated player who is entering a team environment for the first time must return at least one negative result before they can interact with teammates and Tier 1 club staffers."

Yes, Ramona Shelbourne has Simmons needing the unvaccinated protocol before interacting with teammates (not until Friday). If he was vaccinated he would be (medically) allowed to practice with teammates now which is reported as not the case.
Now, I guess it is possible that Simmons is fully vaccinated and is intentionally withholding that medical information to avoid seeing Embiid for 4 days but …

So he cannot play in NYC (four Knicks/Nets games) LA etc. he would miss 6-7 games without pay. Curious how he got to attend Wimbleton, which required vaccination.

Those rules only work for home players; so for instance, if the Nets would let him, Kyrie could actually play in LA and SF.
No idea on Wimbleton, thats the funny basketball with the net you don't want the ball to touch?

Edit:
Wimbleton allowed:

A negative lateral flow test taken within 48 hours of your visit (for those aged 11 and over),

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/visit_and_tickets/covid19_entry_requirements.html

[Lovetron Joe]

Yes, Ramona Shelbourne has Simmons needing the unvaccinated protocol before interacting with teammates (not until Friday). If he was vaccinated he would be (medically) allowed to practice with teammates now which is reported as not the case.
Now, I guess it is possible that Simmons is fully vaccinated and is intentionally withholding that medical information to avoid seeing Embiid for 4 days but …

So he cannot play in NYC (four Knicks/Nets games) LA etc. he would miss 6-7 games without pay. Curious how he got to attend Wimbleton, which required vaccination.

Those rules only work for home players; so for instance, if the Nets would let him, Kyrie could actually play in LA and SF.
No idea on Wimbleton, thats the funny basketball with the net you don't want the ball to touch?

Edit:
Wimbleton allowed:

A negative lateral flow test taken within 48 hours of your visit (for those aged 11 and over),

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/visit_and_tickets/covid19_entry_requirements.html

That is informative. Thanks again.

[Lovetron Joe]

Seeing as Simmons is not vaccinated, that wouldn’t help the Nets much.

I guess I should have known he wouldn't have taken the shot.

[jbk1234]

Read on Twitter

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Yes, this guys is legit, and no, I don't think it's a good idea unless the extension is uber team friendly which it almost certainly will not be.

[HornetJail]

Read on Twitter

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Yes, this guys is legit, and no, I don't think it's a good idea unless the extension is uber team friendly which it almost certainly will not be.

define team-friendly?

Is 3/60 too much? too little?

[Texas Chuck]

Read on Twitter

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Yes, this guys is legit, and no, I don't think it's a good idea unless the extension is uber team friendly which it almost certainly will not be.

Is it relevant if he's legit since he's making it very clear this isn't reporting but just an opinion?

Also it seems odd to have basically agreed to a lucrative extension but still be openly shopping him something you could never keep hidden from Sexton's agent.