Kyrie Irving Megathread: [Latest] NETS Will Not Offer Irving $186M Extension

[ecogen]

Lol stuff like this is why people who are unvaccinated are not taking the shots

So they're reactionary idiots? Bit rude.

The most vaccine-hesitant group in America are Phd's so that's unlikely.

Show your work buddy.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

All these numbskulls all over social media and in this thread congratulating Kyrie are ridiculous. You have dudes like Clay Travis commending Kyrie yet they’re the same ones talking smack about being woke and BLM. See how stupid this whole thing is ? And how ignorant Kyrie is? The dude isn’t anti vax yet doesn’t want to get vaxed? Because he’s about giving voice to the voiceless ? Those voiceless are some of the same ones that will lambast you for being woke and supporting BLM. This situation is all a bunch of BS and I see right through it.

Bradley Beal

He’s not getting the vaccine shot. Why isn’t his name all over the news and social media?

[Lalouie]

kyrie's contradictory live IG explanation is getting TORCHED by everyone,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,and probably by every junior high school debate team in america

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

My oldest wisest relative remains unvaccinated.

Who am I to question a guy in his 70s? Very smart man at that.

[Sedale Threatt]

All these numbskulls all over social media and in this thread congratulating Kyrie are ridiculous. You have dudes like Clay Travis commending Kyrie yet they’re the same ones talking smack about being woke and BLM. See how stupid this whole thing is ? And how ignorant Kyrie is? The dude isn’t anti vax yet doesn’t want to get vaxed? Because he’s about giving voice to the voiceless ? Those voiceless are some of the same ones that will lambast you for being woke and supporting BLM. This situation is all a bunch of BS and I see right through it.

Bradley Beal

He’s not getting the vaccine shot. Why isn’t his name all over the news and social media?

You’re like the fifth different poster I’ve seen bring this up. Is it that hard to figure out?

[red96]

If the Nets implode because of Kyrie, I will eat crow about the Harden deal. I hated the deal, but Kyrie can make them the most value picks in the league. Very interested in how this situation pans out

Healthy Durant and healthy Harden, without any sort of return for Kyrie, is still an eastern conference finals team this year easily.

Maybe, but im talking past this season. If they fail to reach the finals, and Kyrie goes full Kyrie and does the unfathomable. Wouldn't the Nets still be near or above the cap without Kyrie's contract on the books? Would Harden still stay in BK in that scenario?

[Dino-Might]

First, it was an honest question.

Secondly, you are completely wrong. We do make reasonable laws based on data. Why do you think we have different laws and penalties based off your Blood Alcohol Content?

The issue with your post is not the suggestion in the abstract that we should use data to create laws. The issue is that your premise is to look at the data based on ONE person being excluded from the law. Are you saying that NYC and/or the Nets should create a "Kyrie Irving" exception? If there was such an exception, wouldn't other NBA players also want the exception? What about athletes in other sports? What about other people in general?

The whole point of laws and rules is that they work because they apply to everyone. If you stop enforcing the law because one person won't make a big difference, the effect will be that a whole bunch of others won't follow the law either and that will make a huge difference.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

My oldest wisest relative remains unvaccinated.

Who am I to question a guy in his 70s? Very smart man at that.

Tell him to make sure his will is updated. Lol

[gflem]

First, it was an honest question.

Secondly, you are completely wrong. We do make reasonable laws based on data. Why do you think we have different laws and penalties based off your Blood Alcohol Content?

The issue with your post is not the suggestion in the abstract that we should use data to create laws. The issue is that your premise is to look at the data based on ONE person being excluded from the law. Are you saying that NYC and/or the Nets should create a "Kyrie Irving" exception? If there was such an exception, wouldn't other NBA players also want the exception? What about athletes in other sports? What about other people in general?

The whole point of laws and rules is that they work because they apply to everyone. If you stop enforcing the law because one person won't make a big difference, the effect will be that a whole bunch of others won't follow the law either and that will make a huge difference.

The bolded is absolutely correct. See the current situation at the border, it is caused by ignoring laws that are already on the books. I am not anti vax, recently got the j&j vaccine due to relocating and not wanting it to affect my job search. I am against the government forcing people to put something in their body. I am for people having a choice in what goes into their body. "Those who would trade liberty for security shall have neither". I'm paraphrasing but it is relevant in our times to remember the idea behind that statement. Kyrie has the right and responsibility to not take the vaccine if that is what he believes, regardless of what anyone on realgm thinks.
As for the NY law, it is most likely constitutional under the 10th amendment, but anybody who feels threatened or unduly controlled by it has the right to move to another state that they are more comfortable with the laws regarding covid or any other issue. Unfortunately for Kyrie he is under contract with an organization in NY state and also comply with team and league rules to work and collect his salary. I am not a Kyrie fan and disagree with quite a bit of what he says but I do support his right to say what he does, and I support his stance on this issue as well.

[xdrta+]

All these numbskulls all over social media and in this thread congratulating Kyrie are ridiculous. You have dudes like Clay Travis commending Kyrie yet they’re the same ones talking smack about being woke and BLM. See how stupid this whole thing is ? And how ignorant Kyrie is? The dude isn’t anti vax yet doesn’t want to get vaxed? Because he’s about giving voice to the voiceless ? Those voiceless are some of the same ones that will lambast you for being woke and supporting BLM. This situation is all a bunch of BS and I see right through it.

Bradley Beal

He’s not getting the vaccine shot. Why isn’t his name all over the news and social media?

Probably because he can still play everywhere.

[Ambrose]

So they're reactionary idiots? Bit rude.

The most vaccine-hesitant group in America are Phd's so that's unlikely.

As for Kyrie, I view it kind of like the Ben Simmons thing. He's more stubborn than Simmons but once those paychecks stop rolling in the pressure will mount. I find it extremely hard to believe he's going to give up half his salary, a year of his prime on a contender, and screw up his odds of landing an extension over this.

Can you provide legitimate proof of this.

Yeah, I'll PM you.

[Danny1616]

The most vaccine-hesitant group in America are Phd's so that's unlikely.

As for Kyrie, I view it kind of like the Ben Simmons thing. He's more stubborn than Simmons but once those paychecks stop rolling in the pressure will mount. I find it extremely hard to believe he's going to give up half his salary, a year of his prime on a contender, and screw up his odds of landing an extension over this.

Can you provide legitimate proof of this.

Yeah, I'll PM you.

Sure, you can PM me.

But why not just put the data out here for us to see?

[xdrta+]

The most vaccine-hesitant group in America are Phd's so that's unlikely.

As for Kyrie, I view it kind of like the Ben Simmons thing. He's more stubborn than Simmons but once those paychecks stop rolling in the pressure will mount. I find it extremely hard to believe he's going to give up half his salary, a year of his prime on a contender, and screw up his odds of landing an extension over this.

Can you provide legitimate proof of this.

Yeah, I'll PM you.

Yeah, whatever you do don't post it here, that would be awful. Just keep making stuff up.

[bbalnation]

Im vaccinated, and think there are be better ways of protesting. But the reality is, the medical system is part of the overarching system of racism. It hasn't done enough to address the pain, suffering and anger its caused certain communities, especially Black & Indigenous Lives.

Im not going to fault someone for how they react to the pain. Nor am I going to praise them. I think understand where hes coming from though. And damn man, a LOT of unnecessary abuse continuing to come his way.

I totally agree the blacks have been screwed over historically by the medical system. But as I tell my black coworkers, and as I would tell Kyrie to, the best way to avoid that is to stay out of the hospital. that means to live a healthy lifestyle, and when it comes to Covid, take the vaccine.

Because historically, the solution is a non Black person telling a Black person what to do with their bodies? You may want to rethink your strategies and learn from the mistakes of our ancestors, or understand the roots of your decisions (which often come from our own pain).

[Ambrose]

Can you provide legitimate proof of this.

Yeah, I'll PM you.

Sure, you can PM me.

But why not just put the data out here for us to see?

I've PM'ed everyone who questioned the claim. I already derailed this thread once.

[Lalouie]

Kyrie Irving Megathread: [Latest] NETS Will Not Offer Irving $186M Extension

[LivingLegend]

Jesus Christ man, the worst part is that he will eventually end up vaccinated once he and the other Alex Jones lite headcases see the bodies start to pile up at an unprecedented rate

The US has had 720k deaths from Covid, making it the most deadly pandemic the country has ever faced.

The worst part is Covid has the most deaths of any other virus AND WE HAVE A VACCINE THAT DATA SHOWS HELPS DRAMTICALLY REDUCE YOUR ABILITY TO GET THE VIRUS.......but people dont want to take it because of mainly their political party allegiance

Whew, that being said--the general population are idiots.

[Ugly0598]

I like Kyrie taking a stand, but man, he is getting scorned big time lol.

[Ambrose]

Can you provide legitimate proof of this.

Yeah, I'll PM you.

Yeah, whatever you do don't post it here, that would be awful. Just keep making stuff up.

We don't need to derail the thread with your lies and poor reading comprehension again. Keep it to Kyrie.

[LivingLegend]

I like Kyrie taking a stand, but man, he is getting scorned big time lol.

As he should be. If he wants a scarlet letter for not taking the vaccine then give it to him.