Best key piece for Ben Simmons?

[Lalouie]

kyrie
straight up
no math required

I doubt either team wants to do that. Simmons isn't a great fit in Brooklyn and they don't want to make Phily better. They would rather see them trade him for Brogdan or something.

Philly, while they don't have that law NOW, they probably will have it soon, so what would be the point? Kyrie needs to go to some backwards place that thinks the virus is a hoax like Florida. They are NEVER passing that law.

harden is fully capable of playing off the ball, the nets need defense, simmons won't have to shoot

[JujitsuFlip]

kyrie
straight up
no math required

I doubt either team wants to do that. Simmons isn't a great fit in Brooklyn and they don't want to make Phily better. They would rather see them trade him for Brogdan or something.

Philly, while they don't have that law NOW, they probably will have it soon, so what would be the point? Kyrie needs to go to some backwards place that thinks the virus is a hoax like Florida. They are NEVER passing that law.

harden is fully capable of playing off the ball, the nets need defense, simmons won't have to shoot

Ben can't even play for Nets.

[DusterBuster]

and he's just gonna end up keeping Simmons instead of trading him.

Not a bad scenario to be in the slightest. The actual pivot should be finding an upper tier ballhandler that can play alongside Ben and Embiid.

A duo under 30 that have a floor together as a 50+ win / 2nd round playoff team isn't the worst position at all to be in.

They also are nearly unplayable together and one of them avoids shooting 3's like the pleague, but sure... whatever floats your goat.

[Lalouie]

I doubt either team wants to do that. Simmons isn't a great fit in Brooklyn and they don't want to make Phily better. They would rather see them trade him for Brogdan or something.

Philly, while they don't have that law NOW, they probably will have it soon, so what would be the point? Kyrie needs to go to some backwards place that thinks the virus is a hoax like Florida. They are NEVER passing that law.

harden is fully capable of playing off the ball, the nets need defense, simmons won't have to shoot

Ben can't even play for Nets.

he's not vaxxed?

[JujitsuFlip]

harden is fully capable of playing off the ball, the nets need defense, simmons won't have to shoot

Ben can't even play for Nets.

he's not vaxxed?

Allegedly not.

[Lalouie]

Ben can't even play for Nets.

he's not vaxxed?

Allegedly not.

gawd,,,a double idiot. then why is everyone bringing up gsw and he bringing up sac. doesn't he or klutch know sac is in calif

[JujitsuFlip]

Assuming there are picks attached, I'd have traded Simmons to Indiana for Brogdon and LeVert yesterday. Even though they are shipping out the best player the Sixers get two nice fits to go with Embiid.

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Brogdon and Lavert make the most sense for Philly. They would fit in so nicely with embiid and harris.

I tend to agree with you guys, it does suck both Brogdon and LeVert are currently injured.

[JRoy]

None of those. Morey isnt trading Ben for anyone outside of a perennial all NBA first or second team player.

Sounds like Kyrie Irving!

Make it happen, Morey!

[stormi]

and he's just gonna end up keeping Simmons instead of trading him.

Not a bad scenario to be in the slightest. The actual pivot should be finding an upper tier ballhandler that can play alongside Ben and Embiid.

A duo under 30 that have a floor together as a 50+ win / 2nd round playoff team isn't the worst position at all to be in.

They also are nearly unplayable together and one of them avoids shooting 3's like the pleague, but sure... whatever floats your goat.

There are a lot of duo's in the league that get a lot more hype and achieve less than HCA every single season with consistent playoff round wins. If that's their floor while being "unplayable together" (which is a statistical fallacy btw), then they are absurdly good and should both be kept for nothing short of a kings ransom. Which is what Morey is doing.

[Bornstellar]

None of those. Morey isnt trading Ben for anyone outside of a perennial all NBA first or second team player.

Lol keep dreaming

Im not a sixer fan. I'm just stating the truth. Morey is very stubborn.

Sorry, can't see team affiliation on my phone so assumed you were one of those Sixer fans that think they're getting Beal or Dame for Simmons

Agree though, Morey is super stubborn. But I don't think he is going to find any deal that returns an all-NBA player. Theoretically these are generally the top 15 guys in the league, and Ben Simmons is not a top 15 player, so why they think they're going to get someone of that caliber for a malcontent point forward with no offensive game of his own is beyond me

[deadfeather]

None of those. Morey isnt trading Ben for anyone outside of a perennial all NBA first or second team player.

Sounds like Kyrie Irving!

Make it happen, Morey!

The news that Kyrie is not considering retirement makes that trade more plausable. But Kyrie is just so unpredictable and you cant trust a thing he says about his future plans. If I were Morey and had assurances that he wouldnt retire if traded I'd pull the trigger on that trade immediately. Think both teams would benefit from it.

[deadfeather]

Lol keep dreaming

Im not a sixer fan. I'm just stating the truth. Morey is very stubborn.

Sorry, can't see team affiliation on my phone so assumed you were one of those Sixer fans that think they're getting Beal or Dame for Simmons

Agree though, Morey is super stubborn. But I don't think he is going to find any deal that returns an all-NBA player. Theoretically these are generally the top 15 guys in the league, and Ben Simmons is not a top 15 player, so why they think they're going to get someone of that caliber for a malcontent point forward with no offensive game of his own is beyond me

I also agree that Morey will not get the offer he wants for Ben. Even if hypothetically Dame or Beal demanded a trade, neither of those would do to their respective teams what Ben has done to Philly thus preserving their trade value and thus for both teams would receive better trade package offers than a package built around Ben.

What I've been saying for the past month is that Ben will cave and would suit up at some point early in the season. It looks likely now that that will in fact happen by the RS opener.

[DusterBuster]

Lol keep dreaming

Im not a sixer fan. I'm just stating the truth. Morey is very stubborn.

Sorry, can't see team affiliation on my phone so assumed you were one of those Sixer fans that think they're getting Beal or Dame for Simmons

Agree though, Morey is super stubborn. But I don't think he is going to find any deal that returns an all-NBA player. Theoretically these are generally the top 15 guys in the league, and Ben Simmons is not a top 15 player, so why they think they're going to get someone of that caliber for a malcontent point forward with no offensive game of his own is beyond me

This.... so much this... Really just boils it all down perfectly.

[SAKURABA216]

I may be the only Warriors fan that wants Simmons on the team, but I would trade Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and picks for him. I don't think it would be enough though.

[JujitsuFlip]

I may be the only Warriors fan that wants Simmons on the team, but I would trade Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and picks for him. I don't think it would be enough though.

Unless Ben can be convinced to get vaxxed, no way Warriors can risk it.

[SAKURABA216]

I may be the only Warriors fan that wants Simmons on the team, but I would trade Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and picks for him. I don't think it would be enough though.

Unless Ben can be convinced to get vaxxed, no way Warriors can risk it.

Is Simmons unvaccinated as well?

[Tor_Raps]

Im not a sixer fan. I'm just stating the truth. Morey is very stubborn.

Sorry, can't see team affiliation on my phone so assumed you were one of those Sixer fans that think they're getting Beal or Dame for Simmons

Agree though, Morey is super stubborn. But I don't think he is going to find any deal that returns an all-NBA player. Theoretically these are generally the top 15 guys in the league, and Ben Simmons is not a top 15 player, so why they think they're going to get someone of that caliber for a malcontent point forward with no offensive game of his own is beyond me

This.... so much this... Really just boils it all down perfectly.

Can't think of any team getting a better player than the guy who is demanding out. Like has it ever happened before? Especially when you consider the circus with this lol. Odds say that you'll get a few players/picks and that's it lol.

[JujitsuFlip]

I may be the only Warriors fan that wants Simmons on the team, but I would trade Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and picks for him. I don't think it would be enough though.

Unless Ben can be convinced to get vaxxed, no way Warriors can risk it.

Is Simmons unvaccinated as well?

Allegedly he isn't, but the source is Ramona Shelburne.

[DusterBuster]

Sorry, can't see team affiliation on my phone so assumed you were one of those Sixer fans that think they're getting Beal or Dame for Simmons

Agree though, Morey is super stubborn. But I don't think he is going to find any deal that returns an all-NBA player. Theoretically these are generally the top 15 guys in the league, and Ben Simmons is not a top 15 player, so why they think they're going to get someone of that caliber for a malcontent point forward with no offensive game of his own is beyond me

This.... so much this... Really just boils it all down perfectly.

Can't think of any team getting a better player than the guy who is demanding out. Like has it ever happened before? Especially when you consider the circus with this lol. Odds say that you'll get a few players/picks and that's it lol.

Another absolutely excellent point. There have been times a player a team got back turned into a player who as good or better than the star who was demanding out, but it’s never the case that a team immediately gets a better player in return for star demanding out. So yeah, once again, the asking price by Morey and some sixer fans here continues to be absolutely a joke.

[Black Jack]

I may be the only Warriors fan that wants Simmons on the team, but I would trade Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and picks for him. I don't think it would be enough though.

Yes...yes you are.