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ATL - 2021-22 Regular Season Begins

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#761 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:02 pm

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The Bucks are favored to repeat, and our model predicts they will also capture the No. 1 seed in the conference by four games over the next-closest competitor. (The Bucks have by far RAPTOR’s highest full-strength roster rating for both the regular season and the playoffs.) Milwaukee was given the fifth-best title odds both in last year’s preseason prediction model and the pre-play-in games version before eventually slaying its playoff demons and defeating the Phoenix Suns in the NBA Finals.


The model’s current operating assumption is that Kyrie Irving plays in 0 percent of regular-season Nets games, because that is the current state of affairs after the Nets announced earlier this week that Irving cannot play for them until he gets vaccinated.2 If he were to play half of this season’s games, for whatever reason, the Nets’ title chances would jump from their current 8 percent to 12 percent. We’re hedging our bets some by guessing that he’ll be back for half of his minutes during the Nets’ playoff games, should they get that far.


Let’s start with the Lakers. The model does not like this version of the team. L.A. has the ninth-best projected record in the conference, which would have the Lakers once again competing in the play-in tournament. The reason behind that: RAPTOR views LeBron James and Anthony Davis as the only net-positive players on the roster during the regular season.4 The model is particularly low on Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony, who are projected to play sizable roles. It’s notable that L.A. is given a better chance of postseason success than its projected win-loss record and point differential would suggest — and that’s largely due to the presence of James and Davis.

We next have to address the Warriors, who are projected to finish worse than they did last year and miss the play-in tournament entirely. And that’s not because the model isn’t accounting for Klay Thompson playing games. It’s actually the opposite.5 RAPTOR penalizes players who suffer Achilles tears, as Thompson did prior to last season. Throw in the fact that he was already coming off a torn ACL prior to that, and the model now views him as a net-negative player. The model views the Warriors, like the Lakers, as being chock-full of negatives, with only Stephen Curry, Draymond Green and Gary Payton II (The Mitten!) grading out as net positives, among the team’s projected rotation players.


The Lakers being this bad would be so delightful.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#762 » by sidney lanier » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:38 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:How long does it take for Kyrie to cave? All the rumors out there seemed to imply that Durant was going to convince him to get the shot sooner rather than later.

If there's anyone I could see not caving for the shot it's Kyrie. It seems like basketball is secondary to him.


He went on a long IG Live rant last night. It doesn't sound like he's coming back anytime soon.


The poor guy. He's so earnest about telling people what to do about not telling people what to do that he doesn't notice the inherent contradiction.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#763 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:26 pm

sidney lanier wrote:
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engelmartin wrote:If there's anyone I could see not caving for the shot it's Kyrie. It seems like basketball is secondary to him.


He went on a long IG Live rant last night. It doesn't sound like he's coming back anytime soon.


The poor guy. He's so earnest about telling people what to do about not telling people what to do that he doesn't notice the inherent contradiction.

I posted this on the GB, but the whole rant was a contradiction:
I'm not anti-vax - Then goes on how he thought he didn't need and doesn't want to get it
I'm not anti-mandate - Then goes on how people are suffering because of the mandates
He wants to use his voice and influence - then asks why people are talking about him since he is just a hooper.

I really came out more confused than anything. What is his point/end game?
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#764 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:02 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
sidney lanier wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
He went on a long IG Live rant last night. It doesn't sound like he's coming back anytime soon.


The poor guy. He's so earnest about telling people what to do about not telling people what to do that he doesn't notice the inherent contradiction.

I posted this on the GB, but the whole rant was a contradiction:
I'm not anti-vax - Then goes on how he thought he didn't need and doesn't want to get it
I'm not anti-mandate - Then goes on how people are suffering because of the mandates
He wants to use his voice and influence - then asks why people are talking about him since he is just a hooper.

I really came out more confused than anything. What is his point/end game?

Spoiler alert: He doesn't have one
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#765 » by emunney » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:19 pm

The point is that Kyrie Is A Big Thinker.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#766 » by Jez2983 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:55 pm

He's a contrarian and is anti authority. So like my 7 year old.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#767 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:17 pm

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#768 » by DingleJerry » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:21 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
sidney lanier wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
He went on a long IG Live rant last night. It doesn't sound like he's coming back anytime soon.


The poor guy. He's so earnest about telling people what to do about not telling people what to do that he doesn't notice the inherent contradiction.

I posted this on the GB, but the whole rant was a contradiction:
I'm not anti-vax - Then goes on how he thought he didn't need and doesn't want to get it
I'm not anti-mandate - Then goes on how people are suffering because of the mandates
He wants to use his voice and influence - then asks why people are talking about him since he is just a hooper.

I really came out more confused than anything. What is his point/end game?


Yea to me, his point seems to be. "Don't tell me what to do", and that's pretty much it.

Grand scheme, I think he's just bought into the anti-vax conspiracy bs and won't come out and say it because he knows he'll get bashed for it.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#769 » by GoldenAntlers » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:48 pm

You guys don't get it and never will. Not that I'm surprised. Decades of brainwashing will do that.

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#770 » by HaroldinGMinor » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:01 pm

[quote="GoldenAntlers"]You guys don't get it and never will. Not that I'm surprised. Decades of brainwashing will do that.

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#771 » by HaroldinGMinor » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:03 pm

Kyrie is one of those guys you listen to and think "hey he's a well-spoken, introspective guy" then you read the transcript and realize he didn't make a single coherent point.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#772 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:08 pm

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GoldenAntlers wrote:You guys don't get it and never will. Not that I'm surprised. Decades of brainwashing will do that.

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#773 » by Ayt » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:23 pm

An actual "wake up sheeple!" in the wild.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#774 » by Jez2983 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Ayt wrote:An actual "wake up sheeple!" in the wild.


I watched someone's facebook update pointing out how there were two different types of clouds and one was government controlled.

I learnt about different types of clouds in primary school :lol:
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#775 » by glenn » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:04 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:You guys don't get it and never will. Not that I'm surprised. Decades of brainwashing will do that.

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#776 » by LikeABosh » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:23 am

Jez2983 wrote:He's a contrarian and is anti authority. So like my 7 year old.


7 years young and already a free thinker :usa:
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#777 » by Milbucks96 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:25 am

Anyway….Zion has his latest serious injury and he looks flat out fat. I’m rooting for the guy and think he has generational talent but I don’t think he will have a 10 year career.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#778 » by Licensed to Il » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:48 am

Milbucks96 wrote:Anyway….Zion has his latest serious injury and he looks flat out fat. I’m rooting for the guy and think he has generational talent but I don’t think he will have a 10 year career.


Zion can go full Tom Brady and become a health nut and just eat egg whites and salmon and get lean and make 10 all star teams and 3 max contracts.

But if he keeps the diet he has been on as a pro, his body just won’t hold up.
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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#779 » by midranger » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:50 am

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Re: ATL - Preseason Begins 

Post#780 » by giannis and 1 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:25 am

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midranger wrote:I don’t really care what Kyrie does, but this leak about “mandates being the reason” is the first of about 4 leaks that lead to Kyrie becoming fully vaccinated, while saving face for “caving” to the man.

He’s obviously an anti-vaxxer, which okay, fine. Don’t make up this nonsense though. The vaccine existed for what? 8-9 months before the mandates existed? Non-anti-vax Kyrie would have gotten it those 8 months.

It’s all so obnoxious on his end.

But he's Kyrie. He's quit on every team he's ever been on. I'm not so sure he wants to go back to work even if he gets the vaccine. This is the guy who was in a dream scenario in Cleveland and he refused to report to the team when things didn't go his way. It wouldn't surprise me if getting paid $20 million to do nothing this season is exactly what Kyrie wants.

I don’t see how he was in a dream scenario in Cleveland. They were poised to be the Warriors punching bag for a few more years and rumours of Lebron bouncing to LA had already started. That team without Lebron led by Irving and declining Love would be an 7th-8th seed.
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