ItsDanger wrote:
that dude's arm length reminds me of scottie pippen's arm length. freak arms, big hands. he looks like he got less birdlike bones which makes him stronger but not as quick.
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ItsDanger wrote:
Creativetran wrote:The_Hater wrote:Anyways, I’m not talking about simmons v Barnes 2-3 years from now, I’m only discussing the present. Barnes should be a superior shooter in the future because of his work ethic.
Barnes shot isn't broken either like Simmons
Jadoogar wrote:Creativetran wrote:The_Hater wrote:Anyways, I’m not talking about simmons v Barnes 2-3 years from now, I’m only discussing the present. Barnes should be a superior shooter in the future because of his work ethic.
Barnes shot isn't broken either like Simmons
i mean he's already a step up on Simmons because he's actually willing to shoot.
OG looked horrible in his first season too, now i would consider him a knockdown shooter. Obviously those kinds of transitions are rare, i don't think Barnes ever reaches that level but i think he can hit low 30% in a couple years because he's clearly practicing them.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
The_Hater wrote:Jadoogar wrote:Creativetran wrote:Barnes shot isn't broken either like Simmons
i mean he's already a step up on Simmons because he's actually willing to shoot.
OG looked horrible in his first season too, now i would consider him a knockdown shooter. Obviously those kinds of transitions are rare, i don't think Barnes ever reaches that level but i think he can hit low 30% in a couple years because he's clearly practicing them.
OG shot 37% from the arc his rookie season. And shot 45% one of his seasons at Indiana. So he started from a much higher level.
Jadoogar wrote:The_Hater wrote:Jadoogar wrote:
i mean he's already a step up on Simmons because he's actually willing to shoot.
OG looked horrible in his first season too, now i would consider him a knockdown shooter. Obviously those kinds of transitions are rare, i don't think Barnes ever reaches that level but i think he can hit low 30% in a couple years because he's clearly practicing them.
OG shot 37% from the arc his rookie season. And shot 45% one of his seasons at Indiana. So he started from a much higher level.
It was such a low volume (less than 3 attempts). He shot 33% the following season on 0.3 more attempts. I don't think you can draw any conclusion from that sample.
This most recent season was his first season with significant attempts.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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He was 0-9 in the preseason.BlazersBroncos wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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I think thats overly pessimistic. MCW literally made no progress on his shot since college. Even Dray is at 32% over his career.
I think 25-28% this year with a optimistic chance of getting to 35% as he develops is reasonable.
XTC wrote:Mobley and Barnes go #1 and #2 in a redraft. Both are legit game changers on the defensive end, with underrated offensive games. It's crazy how these two where so underappreciated by so many on this board.
Both are lengthy athletes with a natural feel for the game. It was obvious these two had the highest upside.
Slim Charlez wrote:XTC wrote:Mobley and Barnes go #1 and #2 in a redraft. Both are legit game changers on the defensive end, with underrated offensive games. It's crazy how these two where so underappreciated by so many on this board.
Both are lengthy athletes with a natural feel for the game. It was obvious these two had the highest upside.
Season hasn't even started yet.
basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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If they could make him a good shooter, it would be amazing. He was one of the worst shooters I ever saw, at Florida State.mademan wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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Siakam came into the league shooting 14% from 3 and 68% from the FT line. Over the past 3 years he's shot 34% from 3 on 4.5 attempts/game (taking off the dribble 3's and the bail out shots as he's become the 1st option) and 80% from 3.
Pretty weird to write off someone as a shooter seeing what the Raps have done with OG/Siakam/Norm, all of whom had big questions regarding their shooting and all of whom got form tweaks from the Raps development staff, 2 of whom have become elite/borderline elite 3pt shooters and the other a very respectable shooter given the shots he's forced to take (tf thought Siakam could even masquerade as a 1st option?)
basketballRob wrote:If they could make him a good shooter, it would be amazing. He was one of the worst shooters I ever saw, at Florida State.mademan wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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Siakam came into the league shooting 14% from 3 and 68% from the FT line. Over the past 3 years he's shot 34% from 3 on 4.5 attempts/game (taking off the dribble 3's and the bail out shots as he's become the 1st option) and 80% from 3.
Pretty weird to write off someone as a shooter seeing what the Raps have done with OG/Siakam/Norm, all of whom had big questions regarding their shooting and all of whom got form tweaks from the Raps development staff, 2 of whom have become elite/borderline elite 3pt shooters and the other a very respectable shooter given the shots he's forced to take (tf thought Siakam could even masquerade as a 1st option?)
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I know he was really raw and didn't start playing basketball until really late.mademan wrote:basketballRob wrote:If they could make him a good shooter, it would be amazing. He was one of the worst shooters I ever saw, at Florida State.mademan wrote:
Siakam came into the league shooting 14% from 3 and 68% from the FT line. Over the past 3 years he's shot 34% from 3 on 4.5 attempts/game (taking off the dribble 3's and the bail out shots as he's become the 1st option) and 80% from 3.
Pretty weird to write off someone as a shooter seeing what the Raps have done with OG/Siakam/Norm, all of whom had big questions regarding their shooting and all of whom got form tweaks from the Raps development staff, 2 of whom have become elite/borderline elite 3pt shooters and the other a very respectable shooter given the shots he's forced to take (tf thought Siakam could even masquerade as a 1st option?)
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you shoulda saw rookie year Siakam
basketballRob wrote:I know he was really raw and didn't start playing basketball until really late.mademan wrote:basketballRob wrote:If they could make him a good shooter, it would be amazing. He was one of the worst shooters I ever saw, at Florida State.
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you shoulda saw rookie year Siakam
Barnes isn't raw, he's played his whole life.
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basketballRob wrote:He was 0-9 in the preseason.BlazersBroncos wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think Barnes will end up a MCW type shooter. Around 25% from 3. He probably won't be that high this year tho.
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I think thats overly pessimistic. MCW literally made no progress on his shot since college. Even Dray is at 32% over his career.
I think 25-28% this year with a optimistic chance of getting to 35% as he develops is reasonable.
He could still have a great career and be a sub par 3 PT. shooter.
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