The New Improved 2021-2022 Trade/Offseason Thread

[skywalker33]

SF Davon Reed, a SL standout, is making a case to earn a spot on the roster. His 3-D skills have caught the attention of one Michael Malone, should give some battle at that position. Be careful, Mr. Cancar, someone wants your roster spot.

[Coeur]

PJ Dozier will be better player over the next3 seasons than Barton -

Nnaji "" "" "" "" Green

bones "" "" "" Monte



Vital to the future to trade Barton, green, and Monte and/or facu - or are those the pieces needed for a title?

The Monte statement is pretty ignorant seeing as how he is only 26 years old. Dozier and Barton are also very different players and bring different things to the table, both are useful at the present. Dozier will get plenty of playing time as he was when he wasn't injured last year.

I thibk its through no fault of his own that monte morris might be going from 1st string to 3rd upon Murray's return: Bones is tailor made for the backup guard/instant offense role.

I think morris plays fine and builds even more trade value playing as a full time starter and it atleast has to be considered as a trade candidate if bones plays as good as I suspect he will in that role


Not saying at all that don't want Monte, just that he may be too valuable to hold as 3rd guard (esp a facu 4th/capable 3rd)

[Coeur]

Keep looking at the Wizards as a possible trade partner. Really like Bertans as a specialist shooter though expensive. Even wonder if montrZ Harrell might be as effective off the denver bench as anywhere in the league. Maube nugs need a scorer around the basket option off the bench

[Manolito]

I highly doubt there are any trades during the season. Both Greens are needed as veteran figures during Play Off and Barton playmaking ability is required with Murray sidelined or during conditioning.

I can only see minor trades such Bol Bol if he performs good and front office can not renew him because of huge payroll already committed. Campazzo might be another candidate but his trade value is pretty low.

[skywalker33]

Keep looking at the Wizards as a possible trade partner. Really like Bertans as a specialist shooter though expensive. Even wonder if montrZ Harrell might be as effective off the denver bench as anywhere in the league. Maube nugs need a scorer around the basket option off the bench

Bertans is paid WAAAYYY too much for us to even consider him, not gonna happen

[skywalker33]

PJ Dozier will be better player over the next3 seasons than Barton -

Nnaji "" "" "" "" Green

bones "" "" "" Monte



Vital to the future to trade Barton, green, and Monte and/or facu - or are those the pieces needed for a title?

The Monte statement is pretty ignorant seeing as how he is only 26 years old. Dozier and Barton are also very different players and bring different things to the table, both are useful at the present. Dozier will get plenty of playing time as he was when he wasn't injured last year.

I thibk its through no fault of his own that monte morris might be going from 1st string to 3rd upon Murray's return: Bones is tailor made for the backup guard/instant offense role.

I think morris plays fine and builds even more trade value playing as a full time starter and it atleast has to be considered as a trade candidate if bones plays as good as I suspect he will in that role


Not saying at all that don't want Monte, just that he may be too valuable to hold as 3rd guard (esp a facu 4th/capable 3rd)

Kinda agree that Bones could become Murray's backup, they've been emphasizing his play-making skills in practice. That said, Morris needs to show well as a starter to possibly increase his trade value

[TunaFish]

The Monte statement is pretty ignorant seeing as how he is only 26 years old. Dozier and Barton are also very different players and bring different things to the table, both are useful at the present. Dozier will get plenty of playing time as he was when he wasn't injured last year.

I thibk its through no fault of his own that monte morris might be going from 1st string to 3rd upon Murray's return: Bones is tailor made for the backup guard/instant offense role.

I think morris plays fine and builds even more trade value playing as a full time starter and it atleast has to be considered as a trade candidate if bones plays as good as I suspect he will in that role


Not saying at all that don't want Monte, just that he may be too valuable to hold as 3rd guard (esp a facu 4th/capable 3rd)

Kinda agree that Bones could become Murray's backup, they've been emphasizing his play-making skills in practice. That said, Morris needs to show well as a starter to possibly increase his trade value

I agree about Bones, he looks like a pure point guard with the full offensive package. He has defensive skills but he has a ways to go still. Morris has been disappointing but this is preseason and he has history here. I doubt they will trade him with his contract. With Facu Denver has a lot of point guards and not enough shooting guards.

I think Murray is going to be the shooting guard in the future and Bones the point guard. Morris will anchor the bench unless his recent shooting woes continue.

[Coeur]

Keep looking at the Wizards as a possible trade partner. Really like Bertans as a specialist shooter though expensive. Even wonder if montrZ Harrell might be as effective off the denver bench as anywhere in the league. Maube nugs need a scorer around the basket option off the bench

Bertans is paid WAAAYYY too much for us to even consider him, not gonna happen

Bertans would be a better use of 15 mill a year for thr next 2 years on this team than Barton. Or Jamychal now that we have jeff green


PJ Dozier, bertans, Jeff Green over Barton and both Greens over the next 2 years is prob less money and better balance

[Richard Miller]

Keep looking at the Wizards as a possible trade partner. Really like Bertans as a specialist shooter though expensive. Even wonder if montrZ Harrell might be as effective off the denver bench as anywhere in the league. Maube nugs need a scorer around the basket option off the bench

Bertans is paid WAAAYYY too much for us to even consider him, not gonna happen

Bertans would be a better use of 15 mill a year for thr next 2 years on this team than Barton. Or Jamychal now that we have jeff green


PJ Dozier, bertans, Jeff Green over Barton and both Greens over the next 2 years is prob less money and better balance

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

[Coeur]

Bertans is paid WAAAYYY too much for us to even consider him, not gonna happen

Bertans would be a better use of 15 mill a year for thr next 2 years on this team than Barton. Or Jamychal now that we have jeff green


PJ Dozier, bertans, Jeff Green over Barton and both Greens over the next 2 years is prob less money and better balance

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.


Bertans would be just so dynamic off the denver bench beinf able to be interchangeable with AG, MpJ and jokic


I want to see Cancar, Nnaji, and wishfully thinking Bolbol step into that spot but with Jeff and Jamychal green both playing off the bench it doesnt seem like any of rhem will


Plus in 2 years you have bertans and can still trade that plYwr off if needed. All you'll be able to do with bartons and greens are let expire and morris


Barton and facu or howard for bertans would be win for nugs.

[skywalker33]

Bertans would be a better use of 15 mill a year for thr next 2 years on this team than Barton. Or Jamychal now that we have jeff green


PJ Dozier, bertans, Jeff Green over Barton and both Greens over the next 2 years is prob less money and better balance

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.


Bertans would be just so dynamic off the denver bench beinf able to be interchangeable with AG, MpJ and jokic


I want to see Cancar, Nnaji, and wishfully thinking Bolbol step into that spot but with Jeff and Jamychal green both playing off the bench it doesnt seem like any of rhem will


Plus in 2 years you have bertans and can still trade that plYwr off if needed. All you'll be able to do with bartons and greens are let expire and morris


Barton and facu or howard for bertans would be win for nugs.

The years matter because Jokic will be coming up on his SuperMax shortly, why overpaying Bertans extra years, keep your cap flexibility as much as you can. It's not like Bertans is going to be anything more than a 4th or more likely a 6th man option with the talent we have now. We could use scoring off the bench but $16MM is more than I want to pay a bench guy and can's say BArton and Facu is bad trade value but it would unbalance our roster unnecessarily. Have to say NO to that one

[Richard Miller]

Bertans would be a better use of 15 mill a year for thr next 2 years on this team than Barton. Or Jamychal now that we have jeff green


PJ Dozier, bertans, Jeff Green over Barton and both Greens over the next 2 years is prob less money and better balance

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.

Way bigger impact, just how exactly? As far as I can see he shoots, that's about it. He doesn't rebound, doesn't assist, his defensive rating is god awful. Like some sort of poor man's MPJ - you're paying big money for someone who's a shooter and not much else. I mean Markus Howard can do the same and he's dirt cheap.

[Coeur]

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.

Way bigger impact, just how exactly? As far as I can see he shoots, that's about it. He doesn't rebound, doesn't assist, his defensive rating is god awful. Like some sort of poor man's MPJ - you're paying big money for someone who's a shooter and not much else. I mean Markus Howard can do the same and he's dirt cheap.

Yeah. Shoot. But at a super Elite level. And hes a 6-10+ switchable on the defensive end.

Nugs could use a specialist even as a shooter in the rotation. Seth curry. But bertans is way more valuble from size and movement.


The salary cap is going to skyrocket and the salaries shouldnt matter. The nugs could get simething big out of the 30-40 mill they have into Barton, morris, campazzo, and the greens. Add in whichever of the young guys they trade off : NUGS HAVE BIG TRADE CURRENCY, they'll at very least use some of it.


This is the same trade board that wished Gary harris could be the third best player forever

[skywalker33]

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.

Way bigger impact, just how exactly? As far as I can see he shoots, that's about it. He doesn't rebound, doesn't assist, his defensive rating is god awful. Like some sort of poor man's MPJ - you're paying big money for someone who's a shooter and not much else. I mean Markus Howard can do the same and he's dirt cheap.

Yeah. Shoot. But at a super Elite level. And hes a 6-10+ switchable on the defensive end.

Nugs could use a specialist even as a shooter in the rotation. Seth curry. But bertans is way more valuble from size and movement.


The salary cap is going to skyrocket and the salaries shouldnt matter. The nugs could get simething big out of the 30-40 mill they have into Barton, morris, campazzo, and the greens. Add in whichever of the young guys they trade off : NUGS HAVE BIG TRADE CURRENCY, they'll at very least use some of it.


This is the same trade board that wished Gary harris could be the third best player forever

ELITE SHOOTER ?? He's shooting 40% from 2pt range...at 6'10" that's not great. How about his 39% from 3pt those are good numbers but here's what's elite. MPJ, who is also 6'10", is shooting 54% from 2pt and 44% from 3pt...NOW THAT'S ELITE !! Then, why do we need to duplicate (even down grading a bit) what we already have ???

[Coeur]

Bertans has like what, 4 yrs left while Barton and Green will be expiring after this season, no way is that "less money and better balance"

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.


Bertans would be just so dynamic off the denver bench beinf able to be interchangeable with AG, MpJ and jokic


I want to see Cancar, Nnaji, and wishfully thinking Bolbol step into that spot but with Jeff and Jamychal green both playing off the bench it doesnt seem like any of rhem will


Plus in 2 years you have bertans and can still trade that plYwr off if needed. All you'll be able to do with bartons and greens are let expire and morris


Barton and facu or howard for bertans would be win for nugs.

The years matter because Jokic will be coming up on his SuperMax shortly, why overpaying Bertans extra years, keep your cap flexibility as much as you can. It's not like Bertans is going to be anything more than a 4th or more likely a 6th man option with the talent we have now. We could use scoring off the bench but $16MM is more than I want to pay a bench guy and can's say BArton and Facu is bad trade value but it would unbalance our roster unnecessarily. Have to say NO to that one

Going Barton to Bertans would unbalance a little bit burt only beczuseause SG was kind of the spot maybe SG and SF, the spots with the least depth on this roster.


The big concern should be PJ Dozier. Hes better than Barton now. Thats a bigger loss moving forward if hes the first one they cant afford someone eventually


Bartons contract either gets traded or goes down as a bad contract for not being traded. This season plays out perfectly for Barton and MonteMorris to build max trade value

Murray/Bones
PJ Dozier
MpJ
Ag50/Nnaji
Jokic/jeff Green

I love that 8 so much and think that when you add up Barton, morris, and green, facu, and a young guy or 2, and trade exemptions this team could brint in 30-50 million dollars salary if they wanted

I think the nugs front office is good enough to find some big wings on the cheap

[skywalker33]

Dont swe why years left come in ? Youre looking at 3 years down, im at this year and next. Bertans as a way bigger impact than barton or Monte morris or Jamychal green would have on the team. So willing to replace 2 for 1 thinkint all 3 of those players are bench pieces next 2 years. Bertans is atleast a super elite bench weapon. Top shooter in the nba type group.


Bertans would be just so dynamic off the denver bench beinf able to be interchangeable with AG, MpJ and jokic


I want to see Cancar, Nnaji, and wishfully thinking Bolbol step into that spot but with Jeff and Jamychal green both playing off the bench it doesnt seem like any of rhem will


Plus in 2 years you have bertans and can still trade that plYwr off if needed. All you'll be able to do with bartons and greens are let expire and morris


Barton and facu or howard for bertans would be win for nugs.

The years matter because Jokic will be coming up on his SuperMax shortly, why overpaying Bertans extra years, keep your cap flexibility as much as you can. It's not like Bertans is going to be anything more than a 4th or more likely a 6th man option with the talent we have now. We could use scoring off the bench but $16MM is more than I want to pay a bench guy and can's say BArton and Facu is bad trade value but it would unbalance our roster unnecessarily. Have to say NO to that one

Going Barton to Bertans would unbalance a little bit burt only beczuseause SG was kind of the spot maybe SG and SF, the spots with the least depth on this roster.


The big concern should be PJ Dozier. Hes better than Barton now. Thats a bigger loss moving forward if hes the first one they cant afford someone eventually


Bartons contract either gets traded or goes down as a bad contract for not being traded. This season plays out perfectly for Barton and MonteMorris to build max trade value

Murray/Bones
PJ Dozier
MpJ
Ag50/Nnaji
Jokic/jeff Green

I love that 8 so much and think that when you add up Barton, morris, and green, facu, and a young guy or 2, and trade exemptions this team could brint in 30-50 million dollars salary if they wanted

I think the nugs front office is good enough to find some big wings on the cheap

Right now, the only place Dozier is better than Barton is in your mind, Coeur. Dozier has a higher ceiling (Barton has reached his) but his skillset and experience outweigh Dozier's by a mile. Just because you like these players more, don't kid yourself into believing what isn't truth...yet. I do think Doziercan and will replace Barton, right now he just isn't there, close yes, but we need what Barton will bring until Murray return.

[Richard Miller]

Yeah. Shoot. But at a super Elite level.

Super Elite? Lol. His 3p% in 27 playoff games is 31%. That's not even average, way below. Even in the regular season not that consistent. No thanks.

[The Rebel]

Anybody still want to argue that our bench shooting and scoring overall isn't an issue?


While Bones getting minutes would help, and when Murray is back having Morris run the bench could help as well, our bench is costing us games and will continue to do so until they make some big changes.

The question is how do you fix it?

Right now the only guys who I can see having any kind of value that we could afford to move are Campazzo, Nnaji, and Bol.

I still think bringing back BArton was a horrible choice, and he is showing that even now you cannot count on him to give consistent effort and production. He is still best as a bench scorer, trying to make him a primary ball handler is never going to work. The issue is that he is our only guard outside of Bones that can create his own shot.

The question is who is available that can help? We need a guard that can create their own shots and is making $7 million a year or less. Not a lot of options.

[TunaFish]

Anybody still want to argue that our bench shooting and scoring overall isn't an issue?


While Bones getting minutes would help, and when Murray is back having Morris run the bench could help as well, our bench is costing us games and will continue to do so until they make some big changes.

The question is how do you fix it?

Right now the only guys who I can see having any kind of value that we could afford to move are Campazzo, Nnaji, and Bol.

I still think bringing back BArton was a horrible choice, and he is showing that even now you cannot count on him to give consistent effort and production. He is still best as a bench scorer, trying to make him a primary ball handler is never going to work. The issue is that he is our only guard outside of Bones that can create his own shot.

The question is who is available that can help? We need a guard that can create their own shots and is making $7 million a year or less. Not a lot of options.

I am guessing that management was blindsided about how poorly JaMychal Green would play after receiving a raise in the offseason. There is little offense coming from the bench and Campazzo is basically dribbling down the clock looking for an outlet that can't hit a shot, even from players you would expect to hit with some efficiency. It's a veteran bench that can't shoot and the question is how long before Malone finds some answers. I would move Campazzo over any other Nugget if a trade materialized.

If they move Bones into the backup point guard slot and keep Dozier with the bench. then I think the bench guard position is passable. Rivers looks poor, keep him as a safety valve only. Jeff Green has been ok but not much of an upgrade over spent Millsap. JaMychal Green needs to step up or be replaced and I think it is time to see what Nanji has. Also, I would look harder at Bol perhaps rotating with Nanji to take over that slot. I see that scenario more likely than trying to seek a trade solution form outside that doesn't appear remotely possible.

Because of his play, JaMychal Green is not going to be easily moved with that contract (8 mil).

If there is a trade out there, they need to make it soon before the bench costs them too much ground.

[NuggetsWY]

Once upon a time, the starting lineup was built around the best player(s).
Jokic ..... Murray .. Porter as the foundation with .. Gordon .. Morris

Once upon a time, the bench was typically based upon 2 or 3 players with others filling in.

I'd suggest Barton's best slot would be as "leader of the bench".
Add Hyland --- if the veterans can't do it, let the rookie in!
Nnaji - looks to be our best bench forward.
Dozier

That'd be my 9-man rotation with our current roster (and it doesn't have enough bigs IMO). But I doubt Malone will ever come close and management/owner seem to like Malone's approach.

My true choices:

Starters - Jokic - Porter - Nnaji - Murray - Morris
Bench --- Hyland - Dozier - Gordon

Trade anyone and everyone outside of those 8.
Need: Backup center - Backup PF - Backup SF-SG --- Get 3 solid players and we have eleven players that can play serious minutes when needed --- other slots are deep bench and should be used for veterans nearing end of career or young players with potential.