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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#141 » by Bulliever2020 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:05 pm

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Yep. Simmons is gonna be traded for someone the caliber of the GOAT Caruso at this point.


If that's the case they just won't trade him at all. They remain in no rush to have to make a move with him.


lol yea i'm sure Embiid is going to be happy with the sixers wasting a year of this prime. If simmons sits with no replacement, does anyone think the sixers are better than they were last year?


Exactly. The camp of people saying "The 76ers are in no rush to move him". Lol Ok, well they seem to be content with screwing themselves over then and wasting an entire season with an MVP caliber player because of spite. Not really a stellar option there either.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#142 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:06 pm

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Dubious Handles wrote:This is gonna bite philly in the ass big time. Now and most importantly in the future. No superstar will ever want to play there.
I'm fully against this player empowerement era but the way the sixers are handling this situation is plain stupid and so out of the realm of reality and very different to how the previous teams handled these diva superstars demanding out (Butler, Davis, Harden etc.).

I have no issue with the way philly is handling it you cant say your against the player empowerement move and expect them to cave to simmons that doesnt make sense. How else are they suppose to handle it? Take pennies on the dollar because he wants to be a brat? Its not like he has 1 year left he has 4 YEARS and is pulling this.


As with almost everything its not just one parties fault here. The Sixers are showing they might be the worst run team in the league at this point. Its like they have no idea this was going to happen.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#143 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:06 pm

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Yep. Simmons is gonna be traded for someone the caliber of the GOAT Caruso at this point.


If that's the case they just won't trade him at all. They remain in no rush to have to make a move with him.


lol yea i'm sure Embiid is going to be happy with the sixers wasting a year of this prime. If simmons sits with no replacement, does anyone think the sixers are better than they were last year?


The alternative is that they give up his entire prime. They hvae no choice but to get value end waste the next 4 years. Taken 50 cents on the dollar or less is game over. So yes it's better to waste this year than the next 4. Embiid isn't dumb.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#144 » by bon » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:06 pm

Was there really any other outcome?
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#145 » by SpreeChokeJob » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:07 pm

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SpreeChokeJob wrote:Simmons camp has to realize that Morey doesn’t operate from a place of emotions. He’s not going to make a move because he has four years to make one. He can act out all he wants, they will keep on suspending without pay.

That's because Morey doesn't care about the Philadelphia 76ers.
Morey will allow this distraction to continue.....until they fire Morey or trade Simmons.
Simmons wins either way.


Simmons has been losing left and right, money and trashing his image. He probably be traded by the deadline if they never started this stuff.

Bluffing is a joke. It’s not a bluff if the other side knows what hand you’re holding. Apparently Simmons camp didn’t even look at their own cards before they started amateur hour.

Even Charles Barkley knows what’s up. He said they got him for four years and they aren’t trading pennies on the dollar. Period.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#146 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:07 pm

SpreeChokeJob wrote:Simmons camp has to realize that Morey doesn’t operate from a place of emotions. He’s not going to make a move because he has four years to make one. He can act out all he wants, they will keep on suspending without pay.


Great? I'm all for the Sixers wasting all of Embiid's prime because they want to stick it to Simmons.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#147 » by iamworthy » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:07 pm

Sixers played themselves if they thought this was going to turn out any different. Should have paid him to stay away.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#148 » by JDR720 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:08 pm

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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#149 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:08 pm

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If that's the case they just won't trade him at all. They remain in no rush to have to make a move with him.


lol yea i'm sure Embiid is going to be happy with the sixers wasting a year of this prime. If simmons sits with no replacement, does anyone think the sixers are better than they were last year?


The alternative is that they give up his entire prime. They hvae no choice but to get value end waste the next 4 years. Taken 50 cents on the dollar or less is game over. So yes it's better to waste this year than the next 4. Embiid isn't dumb.


Except they want way too much value. Philly has zero leverage here lol
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#150 » by K3nny Pow3rs » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 pm

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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
SpreeChokeJob wrote:Simmons camp has to realize that Morey doesn’t operate from a place of emotions. He’s not going to make a move because he has four years to make one. He can act out all he wants, they will keep on suspending without pay.

That's because Morey doesn't care about the Philadelphia 76ers.
Morey will allow this distraction to continue.....until they fire Morey or trade Simmons.
Simmons wins either way.


Simmons has been losing left and right, money and trashing his image. He probably be traded by the deadline if they never started this stuff.

Bluffing is a joke. It’s not a bluff if the other side knows what hand you’re holding. Apparently Simmons camp didn’t even look at their own cards before they started amateur hour.

Even Charles Barkley knows what’s. He said they got him for four years and they aren’t trading pennies on the dollar. Period.

Simmons is making sure he's traded for peanuts, its very easy.
Simmons wants his destination team to be as talented as possible, and this is the way to do it.
Morey lost, and now its just a matter of whether Morey wants to keep his job or step-aside for another GM to trade Simmons.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#151 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 pm

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Would the Pacers even make that trade at this point? As I mentioned... like, what team is going to take the risk with him now? There's literally nothing stopping him from pulling this crap on another team if he become unhappy with his new franchise. Not sure how many teams are willing to take on that risk when you also consider his contract size/length.

I honestly don't even think I would trade CJ for Simmons straight up at this point... If a potential Dame/Simmons duo ends up being crap and Dame demands a trade out as well, you can bet every dollar you have that Simmons would probably just copy and paste that trade demand email and shoot it off the second Dame does his.

Bleh, Morey really f'd up on this one.


What's change? He was already pulling this crap fully in the off season. Literally nothing has changed beyond he's now at practice.


What changed is him being totally OK with blowing up a lockerroom. It's one thing to hold out and threaten to not show up, it's another thing to show up with the sole purpose of being such a massive a-hole that you basically force your team to suspend you daily. That definitely takes it to a new level imo.


He was talking on his phone and didn't join a huddle. he wasn't throwing the ball or making it hard for others to work. And he showed up to get paid, which now he isn't getting paid.

If we believe the off season rumor mill, he was refusing to talk to the team (not sure about the truth there) but if true that's every bit as unprofessional. he took forever to finally demand a trade, the whole situation was about as bad as it gets. And look we've seen Carter and Harden half ass and they didn't lose any trade value. Ben's value isn't going anywhere...he's an odd piece that has a lot of interest from teams that struggle to build contenders and get free agents and he's likely of no interest to top tier teams. Nothings changed.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#152 » by SpreeChokeJob » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 pm

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SpreeChokeJob wrote:Simmons camp has to realize that Morey doesn’t operate from a place of emotions. He’s not going to make a move because he has four years to make one. He can act out all he wants, they will keep on suspending without pay.


Great? I'm all for the Sixers wasting all of Embiid's prime because they want to stick it to Simmons.


You don’t know that until mid season. If they outperform. That will make Simmons look even more stupid.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#153 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

pcbothwel wrote:I think Morey was simply thinking: "If we can make it two months (Dec-15), then there will be more teams available to trade for him due to the ability of FA's to be traded as well as teams hanging on to premium assets (Lillard/Beal) being more open to a trade due to a slow start."
I totally get why he trade to drag it across the finish line, but it aint going well.


Hes not getting Lillard or Beal.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#154 » by wow09 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

EricAnderson wrote:If the Sixers honestly are bringing Simmons back because they thought they could convince Simmons to stay they truly are a special type of stupid.


Morey is a special kind of stupid
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#155 » by LikeABosh » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

JXL wrote:They are a huge mess. Simmons really wants out, so he goes the Jimmy Butler "fk everything" routine.


Nah, Butler showed up and aggressively participated. Simmons is checked out
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#156 » by Infinite Llamas » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

I don’t think Philly expected it to “work”. They brought him back because they want to do the right things and say the right things. They know that Simmons is toxic but they can’t say it. Anyone who thinks that Philly actually wants to integrate Ben back in other than the hope of increasing his trade value is fooling themselves. They’re already done with this fool and they’re fine with suspending his unprofessional ass.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#157 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

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lol yea i'm sure Embiid is going to be happy with the sixers wasting a year of this prime. If simmons sits with no replacement, does anyone think the sixers are better than they were last year?


The alternative is that they give up his entire prime. They hvae no choice but to get value end waste the next 4 years. Taken 50 cents on the dollar or less is game over. So yes it's better to waste this year than the next 4. Embiid isn't dumb.


Except they want way too much value. Philly has zero leverage here lol


Philly has 3 years to trade him. Does Ben really want to do this for 3 years and ruin his name for 3 years? Sorry they have all the leverage. He doesn't get paid if they suspend him either.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#158 » by Free Rider » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:10 pm

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Free Rider wrote:It's amazingly refreshing to have a player who simply says what he thinks. I'm not sure if I even agree with him much of the time but I. appreciate his honesty. He's actually almost too honest to a fault but I rather have that instead of the usual PR spin that comes out of most front officers and locker rooms these days.


Is he really honest though?

All these guys in the locker room right now are hating the situation, and Embiid can tow the line as much as wants to and pretend that it doesn't affect them but that's bull quite frankly.

Philly fans are going to boo the man relentlessly.

During warmups, when/if he ever checks in, when his face appears on the jumbotron, when/if he's handling the ball etc.

It's not going to stop, and before long Embiid is going to blow his lid.


I think it's a lot more honest than pretending than this is just a slight disagreement and things will eventually work themselves out (e.g., the Nets situation with Irving). Embiid is making it clear that he's pretty much done with Simmons and he's not trying to salvage that situation. Again, I don't think those comments are actually helpful but it's a welcome change from the usual BS niceties we're usually subjected to.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#159 » by The High Cyde » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:11 pm

What a ******* diva, be a freaking professional. Just because you think others acted unprofessional towards you doesn’t give you the right to reciprocate that. They’re paying you millions, but I guess that doesn’t buy responsibility and accountability.

Done with this dude, just a clown. No team is going to win with this guy, he’ll impact the game for 3 quarters and then just flat out quit in the fourth, especially in the playoffs. And he still has the gall to not work on his game. Good luck with that.
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Re: Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game 

Post#160 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:11 pm

Infinite Llamas wrote:I don’t think Philly expected it to “work”. They brought him back because they want to do the right things and say the right things. They know that Simmons is toxic but they can’t say it. Anyone who thinks that Philly actually wants to integrate Ben back in other than the hope of increasing his trade value is fooling themselves. They’re already done with this fool and they’re fine with suspending his unprofessional ass.


Then they should have traded him already.

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