Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[Sixerscan]

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Personally I don't argue Simmons' tactic imho.
The problem is why a guy paid like Simmons (for the next4 years) wants out without a real and concrete issue.

if he feels trust was broken, then it's broken. that's real and concrete.

He can think however he wants and other people can think he's being irrational and unprofessional.

[FireMorey]

The Sixers let Jimmy Butler go, in part, because they were afraid of how things would go with him and his attitude with not fitting together with Ben Simmons.

Ironically, Simmons turned out to be a bigger distraction than Butler ever would have been.

They should just trade Simmons for Kyrie and get it over with.

ewe no. Rather pay him for 4 years to stay home than get Kyrie

He's a nut, but he's exactly what the sixers lack. Someone who can dribble, shoot, create their own shot.

[mithrandir17]

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he should have stayed home then...still losing game checks and public opinion.

Losing game checks aren’t as bad as losing the practice day/meetings checks. Those add up to a lot more. Sixers can suspend him without pay for every game and he’ll still be better off having reported than not.

Losing practice days is only up to 50k/day but missing game days is 1/92 of the player's salary.

[UnFadeable21]

Oh man this situation is just getting down right funny sad now smh

[Mik317]

[Sixersftw]

"At this point, I don't care about that man. Honestly"

This is how I'm starting every email moving forward. See ya'll in the bread lines.

[Stanford]

i agree we should have traded ben before he had an emotional breakdown and made an unprecedented trade demand

[UnFadeable21]

Doc Rivers asked Ben Simmons to join a defensive drill today. Simmons refused. Rivers asked again. Simmons said no again.

Rivers then told Simmons he should go home, and Simmons dropped the ball and left.

Joel Embiid, on whether he's thought about trying to convince Ben Simmons to buy back in to the team: "I'm not here to babysit."

Embiid on Simmons' buy-in: "At this point, I don't care about that man, honestly. He does whatever he wants. That's not my job...I'm only focused on trying to make the team better, win some games, play hard every night and try to lead the guys that we have here."

Ben Simmons was thrown out of 76ers practice facility.

[Negrodamus]

Sixers could have traded Ben for Kawhi in 2018. Think of the ramifications of that trade not going down. Hell, we could have still traded for Jimmy later that year.

[Philly's Best]

I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "don't get in a pissing contest with a dick" Well that's what little Baby Ben is doing with Morey. Remember Morey cost the NBA 4 BILLION Dollars with his China Tweet, right, wrong, or indifferent and gave 0 f*cks. 0! If you think he won't sit this dude until he gets what he wants for 4 years if he has to you don't know who you're dealing with

[GWPhilly34]

I want to hear from him too but its not like the sixers are censoring him. Its 2021 there are plenty of ways to get his side of the story out without talking to Sixers media and that doesn't mean cryptic agent statements. I can understand the type of anxiety he may be feeling and at some points I could even see some of his problems with what transpired but at the end of the day he needs to grow up. The only way to repair his own value right now is to come out and tell his side of the story.

I don't think you're ever going to hear his side of the story because I honestly think the real story is that he is embarrassed by his performance and had his little feelings hurt by what Doc and Joel said in the heat of the moment. And he knows how absurd that will sound to everyone and expose him. If this was really about wanting the opportunity to grow elsewhere, you wouldn't take it to this extreme. This is personal and it's all because sheltered from any criticism his entire life.

I agree with you. His actions have become less and less defendable. Sadly my wife called it from day one when that showtime series came out on him "One & Done." Gives you real insight to how everyone around him really created this "monster."

[the_process]

So the Sixers aren't gaining in bargaining position from here on out.

Morey is going to have to either gather up the available deals and take the best that's out there, or he's gonna have to send Ben home paid until the summer.

Or the third option could be Jo has to have surgery on his knee, and hey! stealth tank, so Ben you have to stay and do something to get paid no matter how much you hate it.

But this team is going to be a circus now, and the idea Ben could just be a quiet pro and wait it out is gone.

Here's my biggest question though: how in the world is Glenn not on the same page as Morey?? This situation has been going on for months. Everyone should have known what could happen. Worst case scenarios should have been gamed out. And in those scenarios, Glenn has to keep his trap shut to the media whether he wants to or not.

[Sixersftw]

Sixers could have traded Ben for Kawhi in 2018. Think of the ramifications of that trade not going down. Hell, we could have still traded for Jimmy later that year.

I understand not trading Ben for a guy that the entire league knew was leaving next year. However, keeping Ben over Jimmy is unforgivable in hindsight.

[djsunyc]

at this point, i don't think it's bargaining power. i think it's hoping someone becomes available who isn't available now. but half a season is long a time to deal with this. they really should just tell him to stay home and pay him for it. that's way better than this.

[Stanford]

Sixers could have traded Ben for Kawhi in 2018. Think of the ramifications of that trade not going down. Hell, we could have still traded for Jimmy later that year.

I understand not trading Ben for a guy that the entire league knew was leaving next year. However, keeping Ben over Jimmy is unforgivable in hindsight.

That would have been the ballsiest trade in NBA history

[bball4life]

I'm sure we've all heard the phrase "don't get in a pissing contest with a dick" Well that's what little Baby Ben is doing with Morey. Remember Morey cost the NBA 4 BILLION Dollars with his China Tweet, right, wrong, or indifferent and gave 0 f*cks. 0! If you think he won't sit this dude until he gets what he wants for 4 years if he has to you don't know who you're dealing with

I think this is what will happen too. Suspend him as he continues to be a little pouting baby for as long as it takes to get a trade that makes sense. He only came back for money so continue to not pay him as he refuses to work. Screw him and his stupid arrogant agent.


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[Philly's Best]

At this point they need to be all in. Too late to back track and send him home paid. Screw that. Keep suspending him and fining him. Only thing he will respect is being hit in the pocket game checks. When he's not suspended make him sit on the bench and don't play him

[FireMorey]

at this point, i don't think it's bargaining power. i think it's hoping someone becomes available who isn't available now. but half a season is long a time to deal with this. they really should just tell him to stay home and pay him for it. that's way better than this.

I believe you're right, but even if Beal or Lillard become available, are they going to even want Simmons? Why would they after seeing him act like the ultimate child.

[Sixersftw]

Sixers could have traded Ben for Kawhi in 2018. Think of the ramifications of that trade not going down. Hell, we could have still traded for Jimmy later that year.

I understand not trading Ben for a guy that the entire league knew was leaving next year. However, keeping Ben over Jimmy is unforgivable in hindsight.

That would have been the ballsiest trade in NBA history

Ben for Kawhi? Wasn't Brett in charge then too? Would have been crazy.

[kriss73]

Simmons is only acting the script he and his agent agreed to.