Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game

[ibraheim718]

People who think Dame will be traded for Simmons are on crack. I dunno if I would trade Mccolum for Simmons at this point.

Portland has leverage. The only way Portland can contend is if they can keep Mcollum or if they can get some of what they get from Mcollum from Simons which they possibly could. But they're not trading Lillard.. that's laughable.

[FrobeBryant]

This keeps getting uglier and uglier and at this point this is all on the Sixers front office aka Morey. He’s poisoning the team by allowing this to drag on. I feel like this will hurt Phillys chances with any future free agents after witnessing this fiasco.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

To the "he signed the contract" people. Do you get it now? You can't force a person to play basketball for you. And why would you want to. I thought Simmons was doing them a favor by staying away. Why drag this circus into your building? Should have moved off him this summer. Now it's nickels on the dollar at best. If there was a way for the team to win one of these ugly superstar divorce scenarios a smarter front office would have already figured it out.

Lakers fan supporting players getting to choose their destination despite signing extra lucrative long-term contracts meant to incentivize player to stay with original team.... shocked I tell you.

NBA needs to figure this out. I'm not smart enough to figure out specifics, but make it so if a trade isn't mutually agreed upon either the player or team has to take on either a salary reduction or take a salary cap hit. These massive deals were created to keep a player under control of 1-team and give the player security. They werent meant just to pay a ton of money to a player for him then to go somewhere else.

Have every player sign a lifetime contract for a ten billion dollars. The point remains. You cannot compel competitive basketball from a person. It's a nonsense thing to try to do. Fans of teams besides the Lakers understand this perfectly. Maybe think harder before posting?

I'm really confused on why you don't think you can compel competitive basketball? You're telling me if ben's deal was structured where his money was tied to both his own performance AND the sixers performance he wouldn't try? He's already shown he cares about the money enough to show up and take the PR hit of being sent home. If he got a 50% bonus for making the finals, something tells me he would want to stay in Philadelphia versus getting traded to say Portland.

Part of the problem is the players aren't willing to understand their role in the business. They want to be partners with the 50/50 BRI split but won't step up when it comes to marketing the league (making non-appealing markets exciting, building fans through appearances and media requirements, kyrie not getting vaccinated, push-back on the bubble, etc).

[SpreeChokeJob]

Actually it isn't. The choice is:
- a pot of gold at the end of the holdout rainbow which almost never, ever happens
- some value now
- less and less value as time goes on
- possibly nothing at all

That's definitely risk between now and the third year.

So again, your original analogy between "one chocolate now or two chocolates later" is a false dichotomy, an unrealistically optimistic one.

In terms of probability
Nothing at all is close to 0 percent, even the worst situation like my handle name, the team got something
Less and less value, you don’t know that, situations change among teams and opportunities pop up annually
Some value, that is always available, greater than 50 percent chance that option is always available
Pot of gold is 10-20 percent chance

I mean these numbers are entirely made up, but that's fine. The point is that it's not a one-chocolate-now-or-two-chocolates-later situation. There is plenty of time and plenty of opportunity for this to get worse instead of better.

Well I’m not going to be a complete odds maker for this since this is not my full time job, but the nothing at all or some value pct are very conservative estimates.

We can always check back in this thread when a trade is made.

At this point, from today’s Embiid’s interview he has the support of the city.

[taikibansei]

Actually a pretty brilliant move. He gets to collect just about all his paycheck while internally sabotaging the sixes so they trade him. Maybe he just needs to put a fat suit on like harden did.

Ben hasn't been paid since he's come back. Right now, he's protesting on his own dime.

[IAMZOOTED2]

I love this! Is there a world where Daryl n nem are sticking it to Simmons and Klutch with the fine and suspension? Like, Ok. You came back so as not to lose your loot, but guess what, mutha muffer, we finna fine yo ass till we trade you, anyway!"

I'll say this again, if your front office is "sticking it" to players then you are one of the worst run teams in all of sports.

Even if said player is a known softie and all around twat? Nah... me no think so.

[infinite11285]

This is such a bad look.

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[Johnny Bball]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yz35zako

The number of wins added for each team... seems very win win or trade machine is screwed up ,

[IAMZOOTED2]

Daryl Morey effed this up so bad. First mistake was not coming out with a strong pro-Simmons statement right after Game 7 to counter-act anything that negative that was said by Embiid and Rivers.

In fact, he's been almost invisible throughout this whole debacle. Where is the leadership from RealGM's favorite genius GM?

The Sixers were in first place all season, brotato chip. Genius Morey is working the phones and trying to get Bendover traded. No reason to think they won't be on top this year, too

[Synciere]

I don't blame Ben for wanting out. I don't blame the Sixers for wanting a haul for him in trade.

I don't blame Ben for reporting and being an ****. I don't blame the Sixers for fining and suspending him.

There are no victims here.

[gino_giode]

If the Sixers honestly are bringing Simmons back because they thought they could convince Simmons to stay they truly are a special type of stupid.

More like Ben didn't want to lose out on so much money and crawled back with his tail tucked. I doubt the 76ers brass thought they could convince him otherwise, they just want to have him play and recoup his trade value (maybe he starts hitting 3s in game lol)

[Soulyss]

People who think Dame will be traded for Simmons are on crack. I dunno if I would trade Mccolum for Simmons at this point.

Portland has leverage. The only way Portland can contend is if they can keep Mcollum or if they can get some of what they get from Mcollum from Simons which they possibly could. But they're not trading Lillard.. that's laughable.

I am not sure Portland would do Simmons straight up for CJ at this point... Portland does value team chemistry / locker room fit and Simmons is acting like a giant baby right now. That won't fly in Portland.

[3toheadmelo]

from shams

The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.

[taikibansei]

It’s stuff like this that makes you question how some nba players would fare in the real world if they weren’t playing a kids game for millions

In the real world, Ben Simmons would quit his job and find a new one. This is a professional sports problem.

Ben is free to quit his job here too and find a new one. He could, say, retire from the NBA, or he could just say to the 76ers, "I waive my remaining salary--void my contract"...and assuming they agree, he'd be a free man.

Of course, he'd then lose all that money...but that's what usually happens when you break contracts "in the real world."

[DusterBuster]

from shams

The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.

Have fun with that. Buckle in Sixer fans, it's gonna be a turbulent flight this season...

[bisme37]

from shams

The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.

This is just the weirdest thing to me. It's like the entire franchise has forgotten their job is to win basketball games, not petty arguments with childish disgruntled players.

[Domejandro]

This is just a bad breakup and brutal to watch. Trade him for Malcolm Brogdon and pieces and call it an effing day.

Can’t, Malcolm Brogdon got extended. That deal is off of the table.

[sip]

This is gonna bite philly in the ass big time. Now and most importantly in the future. No superstar will ever want to play there.
I'm fully against this player empowerement era but the way the sixers are handling this situation is plain stupid and so out of the realm of reality and very different to how the previous teams handled these diva superstars demanding out (Butler, Davis, Harden etc.).

This doesn't make the sixers look bad at all. Simmons is the scumbag in this situation and it is not debatable. Joel Embiid is an actual superstar and he is extremely happy in Philly. It time for the league and front offices to say FU to klutch and all the crap they try to pull.

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[FNQ]

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The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.

This is how you take your team out of contention.. Sixers now tripling down on the bad strategy

[LakersLegacy]

Yeah he was on his phone during drills and didn't join the team huddle.

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I blame Doc.

He’s the ultimate leader of the team. I think he threw Simmons under the bus because he let fear in. The fear of a 2nd round upset could lead to him being fired as he was fired the year prior from the Clippers. So he pointed the finger at Simmons instead of taking the blame like a good leader does.

And everything that has transpired is because of it.

I’m not saying anything bad about Doc as a person. But he didn’t need to do that. If Doc would have shown more strength after the series loss then none of this would have happened. And the media would still have blamed Simmons appropriately for his play.

The 76ers should trade Simmons for Jimmy Butler and keep Embid happy. Because this drama could continue after Simmons is dealt