Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game

[bebopdeluxe]

This can't be repeated enough

The amount of people defending Philly is comical. The dude was slandered by Philly fans and the organization all summer. It's clearly not about money as Simmons is giving up money.

Dude wants out of Philly, which he made clear to the team and fans who threw him under the bus. The organization hasn't been negotiating with other teams in good faith, and Simmons is in the wrong here?

Get real.

No. YOU get real.

The Sixers fan base has supported Ben Simmons like f'n mad. Won't shoot? No problem - he does so many other things! Jimmy Butler suggests in a team group chat some suggestions for Ben before a game? F THAT I AM BEN SIMMONS YO.

(and you KNOW I ain't signing that extension unless Jimmy is outta here)

Coaches want him to work with a shooting coach in the offseason? Ummm. OK. Drew Hansen? Chris Johnson?

Nope - some jabroni assistant coach for a UC team that - coincidentally - also has a last name of Simmons (imagine that!)

Brett Brown says he wants Ben to shoot at least one 3 a game. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

People on this board trying to slander Philly fans for comments after the Atlanta series. Well maybe we are tired of seeing the guy's Instagram feed from LA while his game NEVER. GETS. BETTER.

If you want to defend Ben because he may be having legitimate mental health issues, I am with you there. I think that may have a lot to do with what is happening. But in the absense of that, throwing shade at Sixers fans because, two years after the whole Jimmy-with-the-ball-Ben-in-the-dunkers-spot thing (ALL OF YOU REMEMBER THAT RIGHT?), we go through the same damn thing again.

That's fine... but don't go asking for a kings ransom for the same player you're throwing under the bus.

I'm a Raps fan we went through this with VC (who had 3 years left). The moment you turn on a player (which we both did), his value plummets.

Just be happy you're not getting a washed up Mourning, Eric + Aaron Williams, #16 for Ben Simmons.

Your GM isn't negotiating in good faith and when a situation gets this bad, sometimes it's better to let go, and take the best deal possible. The longer this holds out the worst it gets for Philly.

Ben Simmons + Klutch has all the power in this situation.

YOU. GET. REAL.

Yeah - I hope Rich Paul likes all of those commission checks he is not getting from that escrow account.

So - you think Klutch has all the power? OK. What move of theirs did you like the best, huh? Did you like when they floated the rumor that Tyrese Maxey (another Klutch client) shouldn't do any PR stuff in Philadelphia, because, you know...he might not be in Philly very long. Yeah that was a good one. Maxey liked it too...liked it so much he immediately came out and said he loves Philly and the team. Nice move, Rich.

Or how about the time he got his cabana boy, Brian Windhorst, to say that the Sixers putting the $8.25 million in escrow was "a declaration of war". Was that another example of Daryl Morey and Josh Harris getting pwned by Klutch? Huh?

Or was Klutch's BEST move when they went to the NBA players association after the Sixers started take out some SERIOUS STRAIGHT PAPER when Ben missed preseason games, and said, "hey - they can't do that - right?"

("Well, Rich...OF COURSE they can do that. Ben's holding out. What part of this don't you understand?")

Yeah - Klutch has Josh Harris right where they want him.

(here's a news flash, Rich - don't try to squeeze a guy who made his BILLIONS by squeezing companies as an uber-successful hedge fund manager. you're welcome)

[Optimus_Steel]

Dude is getting paid $33 Mill and he can't even do the bare minimum. I can't be sympathetic for him.

Also, had he produced as his hype and contract warranted would he be in this predicament? Seems self created.

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[bebopdeluxe]

Why should he get rid of Simmons just to get rid of him? If he does a mediocre, or even bad, deal it won't help much with their championship aspirations plus it'll eat up x amount of cap space.

Morey is waiting it out right now because once the season starts teams might have a different view on where their teams are heading. Someone might decided that Simmons would help them and offer a deal for him. Plus all the players who recently signed contracts will be available to trade in December so that opens up his options.

I don't know if that will work out, or what they'll end up trading him for, but I think that's the plan right now.

That is the plan. The Sixers are fine. Embiid is the alpha - the team follows him. Players become available on December 15th. What if Washington starts 5-and-12? Huh? What if Sacramento is 5-and-12?

The only people who say this is an unsalvagable disaster or dumpster fire are the fans of other teams or the media, who are feeding off of this.

"We all we got we all we need"

What if Philly start 5 and 12? Or even 7 and 10? What if those other potential trade partners have GOOD starts, not bad ones, and decide they need to trade the likes of Fox for Simmons after all?

Simmons' value has been decreasing steadily not for months, but for years - and yet people keep thinking it'll somehow rebound over the next couple of months while he pulls sh*t like not even doing the bare minimum in training? Lol

We will see what happens. I am just wondering what the end game for Simmons is here. Can't fake an injury - the guy won't even do defensive drills in practice. Mental health issue? That is all the rage these days - maybe that's the play, huh?

(Editors Note - No disrespect meant to those with legitimate mental health issues...which might actually include Ben Simmons, but I digress)

Personally, any team with a healthy Joel Embiid will struggle to start 5 and 12, in my opinion...but I could be wrong. We will see. But here's the thing - Embiid and his teammates will be GETTING PAID.

Have fun playing Call of Duty, Ben.

[Spens1]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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[bebopdeluxe]

Ben's value will increase due to more liquidity in the NBA trade market on Dec 15? This is how bagholders of a depreciating asset would justify their continued holding.

There are teams that may be interested in Ben SImmons who cannot put together trade proposals that include players they signed this summer until December 15th.

Ummm...is this hard for you to understand?

Don't let anyone tell you there's anything wrong with being a Philly fan. If anything, more fans around the league should be like you guys. I would NEVER pay a dime to the Sixers organization to watch BS showboat and pussyfoot around without giving full effort.

Thanks.

In all seriousness, Ben and Klutch picked the wrong hedge fund guy to f with. I wouldn't put it past Josh Harris to let Ben sit until the deadline, claw back $15-17 million that Ben will NEVER GET BACK, and then tell Morey to do a deal that he could do TODAY. Remember this is a guy who, with Sam Hinkie's help, manipulated the CBA salary floor rules to sign big-ticket guys in the last year of their deals at the deadline (Danny Granger and JaVale Magee say hello), buyout the stub of their remaining contract, but use the FULL AMOUNT of their salaries to reach the salary floor. Harris saved MILLIONS, and it offset the crappy attendence while they were tanking.

In the world of finance and contracts, Klutch is bringing a knife to a gunfight.

[bigbreakfast]

No. YOU get real.

The Sixers fan base has supported Ben Simmons like f'n mad. Won't shoot? No problem - he does so many other things! Jimmy Butler suggests in a team group chat some suggestions for Ben before a game? F THAT I AM BEN SIMMONS YO.

(and you KNOW I ain't signing that extension unless Jimmy is outta here)

Coaches want him to work with a shooting coach in the offseason? Ummm. OK. Drew Hansen? Chris Johnson?

Nope - some jabroni assistant coach for a UC team that - coincidentally - also has a last name of Simmons (imagine that!)

Brett Brown says he wants Ben to shoot at least one 3 a game. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

People on this board trying to slander Philly fans for comments after the Atlanta series. Well maybe we are tired of seeing the guy's Instagram feed from LA while his game NEVER. GETS. BETTER.

If you want to defend Ben because he may be having legitimate mental health issues, I am with you there. I think that may have a lot to do with what is happening. But in the absense of that, throwing shade at Sixers fans because, two years after the whole Jimmy-with-the-ball-Ben-in-the-dunkers-spot thing (ALL OF YOU REMEMBER THAT RIGHT?), we go through the same damn thing again.

That's fine... but don't go asking for a kings ransom for the same player you're throwing under the bus.

I'm a Raps fan we went through this with VC (who had 3 years left). The moment you turn on a player (which we both did), his value plummets.

Just be happy you're not getting a washed up Mourning, Eric + Aaron Williams, #16 for Ben Simmons.

Your GM isn't negotiating in good faith and when a situation gets this bad, sometimes it's better to let go, and take the best deal possible. The longer this holds out the worst it gets for Philly.

Ben Simmons + Klutch has all the power in this situation.

YOU. GET. REAL.

Yeah - I hope Rich Paul likes all of those commission checks he is not getting from that escrow account.

So - you think Klutch has all the power? OK. What move of theirs did you like the best, huh? Did you like when they floated the rumor that Tyrese Maxey (another Klutch client) shouldn't do any PR stuff in Philadelphia, because, you know...he might not be in Philly very long. Yeah that was a good one. Maxey liked it too...liked it so much he immediately came out and said he loves Philly and the team. Nice move, Rich.

Or how about the time he got his cabana boy, Brian Windhorst, to say that the Sixers putting the $8.25 million in escrow was "a declaration of war". Was that another example of Daryl Morey and Josh Harris getting pwned by Klutch? Huh?

Or was Klutch's BEST move when they went to the NBA players association after the Sixers started take out some SERIOUS STRAIGHT PAPER when Ben missed preseason games, and said, "hey - they can't do that - right?"

("Well, Rich...OF COURSE they can do that. Ben's holding out. What part of this don't you understand?")

Yeah - Klutch has Josh Harris right where they want him.

(here's a news flash, Rich - don't try to squeeze a guy who made his BILLIONS by squeezing companies as an uber-successful hedge fund manager. you're welcome)

I don't understand the love for rich paul and certainly don't understand how he's seen as part of the players movement. all he's done is make shady dealings to benefit lebron and friends and ignore other clients. in the process of this he's also alienated half the league. all he's doing is giving the owners more incentive to play hardball next CBA.

[bigbreakfast]

There are teams that may be interested in Ben SImmons who cannot put together trade proposals that include players they signed this summer until December 15th.

Ummm...is this hard for you to understand?

Don't let anyone tell you there's anything wrong with being a Philly fan. If anything, more fans around the league should be like you guys. I would NEVER pay a dime to the Sixers organization to watch BS showboat and pussyfoot around without giving full effort.

Thanks.

In all seriousness, Ben and Klutch picked the wrong hedge fund guy to f with. I wouldn't put it past Josh Harris to let Ben sit until the deadline, claw back $15-17 million that Ben will NEVER GET BACK, and then tell Morey to do a deal that he could do TODAY. Remember this is a guy who, with Sam Hinkie's help, manipulated the CBA salary floor rules to sign big-ticket guys in the last year of their deals at the deadline (Danny Granger and JaVale Magee say hello), buyout the stub of their remaining contract, but use the FULL AMOUNT of their salaries to reach the salary floor. Harris saved MILLIONS, and it offset the crappy attendence while they were tanking.

In the world of finance and contracts, Klutch is bringing a knife to a gunfight.

not to mention, this is seriously bad for most NBA players and the NBAPA. Keep advising players to play chicken with their team to get out of contracts and ownership is going to stop giving out guaranteed contracts or terms. this doesn't play out well for the majority of nba players who don't have enough star power to pull this off.

[kg01]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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Exactly all this. Not sure why folks are gobbling up the character assassination of Simmons but totally ignoring the hamfisted way the Sixers have handled this.

Sure he should've gotten better, but he was fine with them until they torpedoed him in the media to shirk blame off themselves.

Folks keep saying, "Bwah, he's just scared of criticism." Well, as I've said multiple times, Simmons was the only one answering questions after wins and losses in that series. Embiid is the one that ghosted the media after their embarrassing game 5 loss where he missed 2 4th quarter free throws while the Hawks were surging.

And folks keep talking about Simmons' 4th quarters. Well I recall several instances where Embiid came up short in 4th quarters too in that series. But it's all on Simmons because the media has sided with PHI vs Simmons.

[bebopdeluxe]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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Ben Simmons is under contract to the Philadelphia 76ers for four seasons. If he doesn't want to fulfill the terms of that contract, he won't get paid. Simple.

Did you watch Embiid's presser today? Huh? Do you think he gives ANY F'K'S about what "THAT MAN" is doing?

This ain't gonna fly like Butler, or Harden, or Kawhi, or even Vince Carter. Because THIS IS EMBIID'S TEAM.

And if you don't think that Joel has 100% signed off on the Sixers playing hardball with SImmons, you don't know Embiid. And here is the thing, the Sixers have enough talent to win some games over the next 3-4 months. As long as Embiid is healthy, they should be able to be a 6-7 seed by the deadline. Personally, I think that the games that they will miss Ben's defense will be offset by the games where not having the anchor that is Ben's offense will help them. A LOT.

The players are going to back Embiid. You KNOW that Sixers fans are backing Embiid. What Ben Simmons needs to do is simple:

An old saying is that when you find yourself in a hole the first step is to STOP DIGGING.

Ben - stop digging.

[bigpimpatl]

grown men drama. Except no onesies.

[bebopdeluxe]

Don't let anyone tell you there's anything wrong with being a Philly fan. If anything, more fans around the league should be like you guys. I would NEVER pay a dime to the Sixers organization to watch BS showboat and pussyfoot around without giving full effort.

Thanks.

In all seriousness, Ben and Klutch picked the wrong hedge fund guy to f with. I wouldn't put it past Josh Harris to let Ben sit until the deadline, claw back $15-17 million that Ben will NEVER GET BACK, and then tell Morey to do a deal that he could do TODAY. Remember this is a guy who, with Sam Hinkie's help, manipulated the CBA salary floor rules to sign big-ticket guys in the last year of their deals at the deadline (Danny Granger and JaVale Magee say hello), buyout the stub of their remaining contract, but use the FULL AMOUNT of their salaries to reach the salary floor. Harris saved MILLIONS, and it offset the crappy attendence while they were tanking.

In the world of finance and contracts, Klutch is bringing a knife to a gunfight.

not to mention, this is seriously bad for most NBA players and the NBAPA. Keep advising players to play chicken with their team to get out of contracts and ownership is going to stop giving out guaranteed contracts or terms. this doesn't play out well for the majority of nba players who don't have enough star power to pull this off.

Agree 100%

The NBA PA knows that the next CBA is coming up soon. One that is going to benefit from a windfall of new TV money - some estimates are preliminarily saying the cap could go as high as $175 million.

(that is a ton of scratch for those 8-to-10 year journeyman vets to get a taste of)

And the LAST thing that the overall membership of the PA will want is for some jabroni, wanna-be star like Ben Simmons to go and fark things up right in front of these negotiations. This isn't KD. This isn't Steph or Luka or Jokic.

This is BEN SIMMONS.

You think the players in this league - who KNOW these negotiations are gonna come down in the next couple of years - are gonna tolerate BEN F'K'N SIMMONS screwing this up with the owners? They probably already think he is a no-heart Instagram poser...but if you start messing with their MONEY?

Hoo-boy.

[antonac]

Neither side have wanted to continue with their journey together for quite some time. I don't know how sixers fans can pretend this isn't the case, they've been slandering him on here for the last year, the embiid MVP campaign rested heavily on how useless his 2nd option was, he was blamed for the PO failure and his lack of shooting is the most scrutinized issue in the league.

The problem is only one side needs the other to be asset to them. Simmons doesn't care how Philly do but the Sixers don't want to let him leave as a 2nd rate starter in a trade. That's the only leverage left, ultimately Philly are going to get a very average trade package out of this, don't see it ending any other way.

[bigbreakfast]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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Exactly all this. Not sure why folks are gobbling up the character assassination of Simmons but totally ignoring the hamfisted way the Sixers have handled this.

Sure he should've gotten better, but he was fine with them until they torpedoed him in the media to shirk blame off themselves.

Folks keep saying, "Bwah, he's just scared of criticism." Well, as I've said multiple times, Simmons was the only one answering questions after wins and losses in that series. Embiid is the one that ghosted the media after their embarrassing game 5 loss where he missed 2 4th quarter free throws while the Hawks were surging.

And folks keep talking about Simmons' 4th quarters. Well I recall several instances where Embiid came up short in 4th quarters too in that series. But it's all on Simmons because the media has sided with PHI vs Simmons.

the one person from the 76ers who could've handled this better is doc rivers.

the big difference between embiid and simmons is he was trying to win and failed. simmons was too scared to try. no one blamed thybulle for missing a FT and the foul, because he was trying to win.

[kg01]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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Exactly all this. Not sure why folks are gobbling up the character assassination of Simmons but totally ignoring the hamfisted way the Sixers have handled this.

Sure he should've gotten better, but he was fine with them until they torpedoed him in the media to shirk blame off themselves.

Folks keep saying, "Bwah, he's just scared of criticism." Well, as I've said multiple times, Simmons was the only one answering questions after wins and losses in that series. Embiid is the one that ghosted the media after their embarrassing game 5 loss where he missed 2 4th quarter free throws while the Hawks were surging.

And folks keep talking about Simmons' 4th quarters. Well I recall several instances where Embiid came up short in 4th quarters too in that series. But it's all on Simmons because the media has sided with PHI vs Simmons.

the one person from the 76ers who could've handled this better is doc rivers.

the big difference between embiid and simmons is he was trying to win and failed. simmons was too scared to try. no one blamed thybulle for missing a FT and the foul, because he was trying to win.

That's fair.

Glenn handled it just as he always handles interpersonal situations. With a match and a can o' gasoline. There's a reason all his teams implode from within. I have no idea why hiring folks choose to ignore this.

[DroseReturnChi]

Don't think I've seen both sides handle a situation so badly.

On one hand you have Simmons not improve his ft shooting (forget the 3pt shot, but ft shooting) and now refusing to do team drills.

Then you have the 76ers throwing him under the bus and not keeping their mouths shut and not just using generic responses and act all shocked that the player hates you and wants out and you still haven't traded him.

Just deal him already and be done with it.

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Exactly all this. Not sure why folks are gobbling up the character assassination of Simmons but totally ignoring the hamfisted way the Sixers have handled this.

Sure he should've gotten better, but he was fine with them until they torpedoed him in the media to shirk blame off themselves.

Folks keep saying, "Bwah, he's just scared of criticism." Well, as I've said multiple times, Simmons was the only one answering questions after wins and losses in that series. Embiid is the one that ghosted the media after their embarrassing game 5 loss where he missed 2 4th quarter free throws while the Hawks were surging.

And folks keep talking about Simmons' 4th quarters. Well I recall several instances where Embiid came up short in 4th quarters too in that series. But it's all on Simmons because the media has sided with PHI vs Simmons.

the one person from the 76ers who could've handled this better is doc rivers.

the big difference between embiid and simmons is he was trying to win and failed. simmons was too scared to try. no one blamed thybulle for missing a FT and the foul, because he was trying to win.

sure not dunking on trae was a mistake but drawing fouls is also very good outcome. thybulle was to blame for missing. ur a freaking pro and anti simmons fans dont expect 7 salary figure to not make a ft?

[bebopdeluxe]

He doesn't know how to not be adversarial because he's a child. Compare him to someone like Donovan Mitchell or Tatum. He's the black sheep of the NBA

Yep, Ben Simmons is the new Dennis Rodman.

Rodman has showed more passion to win in a single playoff game than Ben has his entire career.

Rodman could be crazy, but when he was on he left his soul on the hardwood. Simmons has the passion of a unhappy 80 year old man going through the motions on his anniversary.

Jordan would literally murder someone as apathetic and whiney as Ben. Hell if he was a rookie he would be run off the team in training camp by Jordan and traded before any games played.

Actually, Ben's rookie year was his best. 16 game winning streak to end the season - many of those wins while Embiid was out (his face ran into Markelle Fultz's knee). The win at the end of the year over the Cavs to get homecourt in the playoffs may have been Simmons' best overall game - taking into account the importance of that game.

Jordan would have liked THAT Ben. Not this one.

[brutalitops]

Prince/Bev+two firsts

[Dan Z]

Why should he get rid of Simmons just to get rid of him? If he does a mediocre, or even bad, deal it won't help much with their championship aspirations plus it'll eat up x amount of cap space.

Morey is waiting it out right now because once the season starts teams might have a different view on where their teams are heading. Someone might decided that Simmons would help them and offer a deal for him. Plus all the players who recently signed contracts will be available to trade in December so that opens up his options.

I don't know if that will work out, or what they'll end up trading him for, but I think that's the plan right now.

That is the plan. The Sixers are fine. Embiid is the alpha - the team follows him. Players become available on December 15th. What if Washington starts 5-and-12? Huh? What if Sacramento is 5-and-12?

The only people who say this is an unsalvagable disaster or dumpster fire are the fans of other teams or the media, who are feeding off of this.

"We all we got we all we need"

What if Philly start 5 and 12? Or even 7 and 10? What if those other potential trade partners have GOOD starts, not bad ones, and decide they need to trade the likes of Fox for Simmons after all?

Simmons' value has been decreasing steadily not for months, but for years - and yet people keep thinking it'll somehow rebound over the next couple of months while he pulls sh*t like not even doing the bare minimum in training? Lol

Right now it's better to wait and take a chance that a better deal will be available during the season. It makes no sense to rush into a bad deal right now.

They can still take a mediocre deal during the season if that's all they can get.

[BeatDaCavs420]

Anthony Davis basically did this but its okay because he joined the almighty Lakers and Lebron.

[GSWFan1994]

I don't understand the love for rich paul and certainly don't understand how he's seen as part of the players movement. all he's done is make shady dealings to benefit lebron and friends and ignore other clients. in the process of this he's also alienated half the league. all he's doing is giving the owners more incentive to play hardball next CBA.

Well said.

That's pretty much my impression of Rich Paul as well.

And I wholeheartedly agree with you. The next CBA negotiations are setting up to be a huge mess.