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2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

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Grade the Suns off-season moves so far

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4
5%
B
40
53%
C
23
30%
D
8
11%
F
1
1%
 
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5721 » by suns12345 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:22 am

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darealjuice wrote:Russell Westbrook's fit on the Lakers is going about as well as one would expect so far lol

Haven't watched it but I imagine it's something like your turn, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, your turn ?


Worse, it's him standing around alone on the perimeter off-ball most of the time and throwing up bricks and turning it over while driving into crowds whenever he gets the ball. They've played him at the same time as Rondo lol.


I just dont see what all the pundits see in having LA as favourites to win the west.

Don't see it at all.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5722 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:25 am

darealjuice wrote:
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darealjuice wrote:Russell Westbrook's fit on the Lakers is going about as well as one would expect so far lol

Haven't watched it but I imagine it's something like your turn, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, your turn ?


Worse, it's him standing around alone on the perimeter off-ball most of the time and throwing up bricks and turning it over while driving into crowds whenever he gets the ball. They've played him at the same time as Rondo lol.

So like last season, Lebron is their best 3PT shooter lol

Just tuned into the game. Russ isn't even playing, is he just resting or are they sitting him?
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5723 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:27 am

suns12345 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Haven't watched it but I imagine it's something like your turn, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, your turn ?


Worse, it's him standing around alone on the perimeter off-ball most of the time and throwing up bricks and turning it over while driving into crowds whenever he gets the ball. They've played him at the same time as Rondo lol.


I just dont see what all the pundits see in having LA as favourites to win the west.

Don't see it at all.

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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5724 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:29 am

This has been a very good game tonight though. Both teams are playing at about the same level.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5725 » by darealjuice » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:29 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Haven't watched it but I imagine it's something like your turn, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, your turn ?


Worse, it's him standing around alone on the perimeter off-ball most of the time and throwing up bricks and turning it over while driving into crowds whenever he gets the ball. They've played him at the same time as Rondo lol.

So like last season, Lebron is their best 3PT shooter lol

Just tuned into the game. Russ isn't even playing, is he just resting or are they sitting him?


Pretty much. The shooters that they do have aren't very good basketball players at least.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5726 » by bwoolf2 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:35 am

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Worse, it's him standing around alone on the perimeter off-ball most of the time and throwing up bricks and turning it over while driving into crowds whenever he gets the ball. They've played him at the same time as Rondo lol.

So like last season, Lebron is their best 3PT shooter lol

Just tuned into the game. Russ isn't even playing, is he just resting or are they sitting him?


Pretty much. The shooters that they do have aren't very good basketball players at least.


That Lakers team is a mess, it's a really poorly constructed team, no D , no shooters, doubt they stay healthy, they may have a hard time making the playoffs their team last year was better
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5727 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:35 am

bwoolf2 wrote:Watched both games tonight Bucks are really good, nets not sure about, but not really worried about Lakers or Warriors, if klay comes back and found some magical way to be 100 percent then the Warriors will be something until then they are middle of the pack.


Nets didn't look great. Bucks are gonna be in the ECF for sure.

I think both the Warriors and Lakers look tough. Russ isn't fitting in yet, and AD ain't right, but Lebron is 100%, and that's enough to put them in the conversation. The Warriors have great chemistry, and Bjelica looks like a huge pickup for them. Playoff team for sure.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5728 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:35 am

Damn would've loved some Bjelica on our team. Not a high end guy but he has some skills that high end guys have like being able to cut, put the ball on the floor and pass.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5729 » by Mjee » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:35 am

Hahahah this laker team is hilarious
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5730 » by bwgood77 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:36 am

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I don't think that anyone is "upset" but this is a discussion forum and this is easily the biggest story around the team. Hell, if it weren't for Simmons, than this might be the major story that everyone would be talking about. I mean who goes to the finals and refuses to sign their #1 overall pick?

Big Time Bobby Sarver, that's who


I actually probably defend Sarver at this point more than most. Or defend might not be the best way to put it, but don't think he is nearly as bad as he used to be and don't care if he sells the team especially given we just had a deep playoff run and have a solid GM and coach in place.

But I don't think anyone can disagree with the fact that if Sarver wanted to get Ayton signed and pay him the max, it would have gotten done regardless of anything else, and if he did not want to, it wouldn't get done regardless of anything else.

But, it's not the worst thing unless he ends up leaving because of it, which in my estimation, is highly doubtful. I think there may be something in place where you can only give a 5 year extension on a max deal, but can sign your own FA to a 5 year deal at less than max (or at least by then you would know if he met the 30% criteria) so in those scenarios, especially the first one, it's not a bad reason to wait. I think in many times it can create discontent, as WeekapaugGroove has pointed out you shouldn't mess with it normally, but I kind of think Ayton is different. I know he's unhappy but that's understandable. I don't think it will make him want to go elsewhere though if we give him a good offer next summer. I'd hate for it to come down to a match.

I don't think a max deal has ever been matched has it? Like a full max, not the 2 year undrafted rookie max amount. I can't think of a time a team actually allowed a guy to get a max offer from another team. Maybe someone like Otto Porter who I don't really think anyone (probably except the team that gave it to him-Brooklyn) thought he was worth. Brooklyn offered absurd contracts that got matched to several players though...Porter, Tyler Johnson, Allen Crabbe, etc.


Most teams sign their 1st round picks...especially the #1 overall guy.

Sarver making history again. Did Utah match a max deal for Hayward? Or what about when New Orleans matched the deal we gave to Eric Gordon?


Utah couldn't match as that was Hayward's third deal.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5731 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:39 am

I'm guessing this is going to characterize Laker basketball this season

Pass to a non-shooter for a 3PT shot. Russ crashes the O boards. AD will fall and be rewarded with foul shots. Lebron being the best shooter.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5732 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:40 am

How is this only Steph's 8 career triple double? He's a pretty good rebounder for his position, elite scorer and fantastic passer. You'd think he'd have more than 8 career triple doubles.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5733 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:47 am

lilfishi22 wrote:How is this only Steph's 8 career triple double? He's a pretty good rebounder for his position, elite scorer and fantastic passer. You'd think he'd have more than 8 career triple doubles.

Even though he’s a very good passer, Draymond does most of the playmaking whenever Steph’s on the court.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5734 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:48 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Damn would've loved some Bjelica on our team. Not a high end guy but he has some skills that high end guys have like being able to cut, put the ball on the floor and pass.

I loved him when he was in Minnesota. He didn’t do great in Sacramento but that was so due to the dysfunction there.

He would’ve been a cheaper Saric for us.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5735 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:50 am

Lebron will probably never shoot that well from 3 again this season so that’s good.

Lakers have so many unlikable players on their team, it’s easier than usual to root for them to fail.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5736 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:52 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:How is this only Steph's 8 career triple double? He's a pretty good rebounder for his position, elite scorer and fantastic passer. You'd think he'd have more than 8 career triple doubles.

Even though he’s a very good passer, Draymond does most of the playmaking whenever Steph’s on the court.

You're right but he's also had seasons where he averaged 7-8apg. Kinda expected more than 8 TD in his career.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5737 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:53 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:How is this only Steph's 8 career triple double? He's a pretty good rebounder for his position, elite scorer and fantastic passer. You'd think he'd have more than 8 career triple doubles.

Even though he’s a very good passer, Draymond does most of the playmaking whenever Steph’s on the court.

You're right but he's also had seasons where he averaged 7-8apg. Kinda expected more than 8 TD in his career.

Yeah I thought he’d have more as well.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5738 » by bwgood77 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:58 am

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Revived wrote:Even though he’s a very good passer, Draymond does most of the playmaking whenever Steph’s on the court.

You're right but he's also had seasons where he averaged 7-8apg. Kinda expected more than 8 TD in his career.

Yeah I thought he’d have more as well.


He's never been a big rebounder. They've had guys like Bogut, Draymond, etc. He's only 6'3 and not that many guys his size get many rebounds. Westbrook does but that's partially due to OKC using him to ignite fast break while Adams boxed out and his insane athleticism and his enormous desire to get a triple double every game.
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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5739 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:02 am

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darealjuice wrote:Russell Westbrook's fit on the Lakers is going about as well as one would expect so far lol

Haven't watched it but I imagine it's something like your turn, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, my turn, brick, your turn ?


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Re: 2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation 

Post#5740 » by Revived » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:06 am

Damn I didn’t realize Suns play the Lakers already in the second game of the season. Jeez they wanted us to play like every team we beat in the playoffs in the first games of the season itself…surprised there’s no Clippers or Bucks game for gm 3.

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