Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game

[SNPA]

How dare the rest of the team force Simmons to carry a phone in his pocket while on the court!!! Heck everyone at Philly, I don't care if you even watch NBA, it's all y'all's fault but Simmons. LEAVE SIMMONS ALONE!!!

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Didn’t happen dude

What didn't happen? If it's the phone in the pocket you are arguing about, there is literally a video of it up on YouTube, with a giant phone-like device sticking out from his pocket while he's on the court. Of course, it could have been a vibrator, if so for that I apologize.

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He was waiting for the text that the money moved from escrow to his account.

Got to be able to refresh and defensive slide at the same time. He’s a pro.

[Tomjas]

How dare the rest of the team force Simmons to carry a phone in his pocket while on the court!!! Heck everyone at Philly, I don't care if you even watch NBA, it's all y'all's fault but Simmons. LEAVE SIMMONS ALONE!!!

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Didn’t happen dude

What didn't happen? If it's the phone in the pocket you are arguing about, there is literally a video of it up on YouTube, with a giant phone-like device sticking out from his pocket while he's on the court. Of course, it could have been a vibrator, if so for that I apologize.

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It’s a clothes tag

[Brandon-Clyde]

I still have hope my Enron stock will regain value

[robbie84]

Gonna be awesome to see how Philly crowd reacts at first home game lol.

Morey's an idiot and has handled this awfully.
The player wants out, you're holding out to get as much as possible for him but having him around the team as a distraction is not worth the extra draft pick or two you're gonna get.

I hate Rich Paul and Simmons has overreacted to this, but there comes a time to cut the cord because the juice ain't worth the squeeze for either party.

I'm not sure if it's Morey's ego vs Rich Paul's but that's what this seems like.

[MVP1992]

Get the expansion teams started.

Simmons to Vegas or Seattle.

[Ugly0598]

Ben Simmons to Orlando in exchange for Markelle Fultz and other assets??? Hahahaha at least Markelle can shoot a 3 once in a while

[twyzted]

Exactly all this. Not sure why folks are gobbling up the character assassination of Simmons but totally ignoring the hamfisted way the Sixers have handled this.

Sure he should've gotten better, but he was fine with them until they torpedoed him in the media to shirk blame off themselves.

Folks keep saying, "Bwah, he's just scared of criticism." Well, as I've said multiple times, Simmons was the only one answering questions after wins and losses in that series. Embiid is the one that ghosted the media after their embarrassing game 5 loss where he missed 2 4th quarter free throws while the Hawks were surging.

And folks keep talking about Simmons' 4th quarters. Well I recall several instances where Embiid came up short in 4th quarters too in that series. But it's all on Simmons because the media has sided with PHI vs Simmons.

the one person from the 76ers who could've handled this better is doc rivers.

the big difference between embiid and simmons is he was trying to win and failed. simmons was too scared to try. no one blamed thybulle for missing a FT and the foul, because he was trying to win.

sure not dunking on trae was a mistake but drawing fouls is also very good outcome. thybulle was to blame for missing. ur a freaking pro and anti simmons fans dont expect 7 salary figure to not make a ft?

Better outcome wouldve been guaranteed 2 points plus a free throw, with the possibility of a offensive rebounds or even made freethrow.

[Wilfried]

Gonna be awesome to see how Philly crowd reacts at first home game lol.

Morey's an idiot and has handled this awfully.
The player wants out, you're holding out to get as much as possible for him but having him around the team as a distraction is not worth the extra draft pick or two you're gonna get.

Think it definitely could be worth that

Those players know the business, just ignore the dude, and let him rot somewhere until (and that's the key) a disgruntled star comes avalaible.

Let's see what Lakers, Kings, Wizards will do in the first months of season.

And, while Ben isn't playing, he can't get injured either so that's a plus.
Hell, maybe the Sixers can even rest Embiid a bit this season and they can tank for 1 year (look at GS) and use that pick + picks Simmons got you to really go after a big fish next summer. Even Tobias is tradeable next summer (final 2 years of his contract)

This should be the blueprint of a quick and smooth rebuild even with a franchise player on board.

Don't come at me with all the 'you cannot waste a season of Embiid in his prime' stuff. The Spurs did it in 96 (Robinson), GS did it 2 seasons ago, ...

In french they say: 'Reculer pour mieux sauter' (take a step back to jump further).

[Tomjas]

Gonna be awesome to see how Philly crowd reacts at first home game lol.

Morey's an idiot and has handled this awfully.
The player wants out, you're holding out to get as much as possible for him but having him around the team as a distraction is not worth the extra draft pick or two you're gonna get.

Think it definitely could be worth that

Those players know the business, just ignore the dude, and let him rot somewhere until (and that's the key) a disgruntled star comes avalaible.

Let's see what Lakers, Kings, Wizards will do in the first months of season.

And, while Ben isn't playing, he can't get injured either so that's a plus.
Hell, maybe the Sixers can even rest Embiid a bit this season and they can tank for 1 year (look at GS) and use that pick + picks Simmons got you to really go after a big fish next summer. Even Tobias is tradeable next summer (final 2 years of his contract)

This should be the blueprint of a quick and smooth rebuild even with a franchise player on board.

Don't come at me with all the 'you cannot waste a season of Embiid in his prime' stuff. The Spurs did it in 96 (Robinson), GS did it 2 seasons ago, ...

In french they say: 'Reculer pour mieux sauter' (take a step back to jump further).

The Sixers should be fined into oblivion if they sit both Embiid and Simmons

[Jabroni Lames]

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Teams have every right to suspend a player for detrimental conduct and any arbitrator would be on the side of the Sixers here.

>>> 50%. Because Simmons can show precedent of players doing much worse things than he did today and that not being deemed “detrimental conduct”. He would have a very strong case to avoid the fine.

Not how it works, and no he cannot.

Dude, there is a entire section & provision in the CBA for filing grievances to dispute fines and suspensions, etc…. This is exactly how it works. You are 100.1 % wrong here.

That said, it would be pretty rare for an arbitrator to overturn team disciplinary action, but Simmons has a good case here. It’s nowhere near zero, like you were suggesting.

https://atlhawksfanatic.github.io/NBA-CBA/grievance-and-arbitration-procedure-and-special-procedures-with-respect-to-disputes-involving-player-discipline.html

[Nuntius]

You put forth a half ass effort, you get suspended and don't get paid the next game. The Sixers can easily take this one game at a time the whole season.

I get the argument but won't that ruin Philly's chances to contend this year?

[Nuntius]

What he's doing is unprecedented. 4 years max deal and not honoring his contract. And for someone that posts more than a bot, I don't need you to audit the hyperbole of my posts.

Odd that you want to make it personal but okay. Don't hate my ability to get up volume. I mean its in my name--I'm a chucker.

Surprised that you expect full agreement with your every post on a message board. Aren't we supposed to have different opinions and not need to lash out if someone gently disagrees?

Don't take it as hating on your volume. Just saying when you post as much as you do, you're bound to make a ton of hyperbolic posts yourself. What seemed odd is that you thought it was necessary to call out a hyperbole for saying Ben Simmons is one of the most unprofessional athletes with this move. You didn't disagree -- you told me "there is no need for this kind of hyperbole". Don't be a jerk and then get surprised when people don't respond kindly.

I don't see how saying "there is no need for this kind of hyperbole" makes one a jerk.

[Nuntius]

This is just a bad breakup and brutal to watch. Trade him for Malcolm Brogdon and pieces and call it an effing day.

Brogdon can't be traded after his extension, can he?

That's correct. Brogdon can no longer be traded this season due to his extension.

This is just a bad breakup and brutal to watch. Trade him for Malcolm Brogdon and pieces and call it an effing day.

Would the Pacers even make that trade at this point?

As -Luke- pointed out, we can no longer trade Brogdon this year so even if we would make that deal, we're not allowed to.

[axeman23]

So... is this going to carry on all season?

I mean it seems at this point Sixers are playing hardball with him, I have never seen a team not bow to the whims of the player that wanted the trade at least in some capacity.

We will see if the Sixers really try to hold him to the remaining years on his contract though.

Sixers were perfectly fine not holding him to the years of his contract (when they signed the other end of it), when Harden was a possibility. This looks something like a third world divorce. The husband can divorce his wife with a text msg, and the wife gets a "tough titties" when she tries to get a divorce...

[axeman23]

most pathetic "all star" ive eve seen, both on and off court

From a Toronto fan who, I'm ASSUMING, watched VC call Toronto plays out of timeouts to the opposition... And I love Vince!

[garrick]

Who else thinks Ben did this partly to get out of answering the awkward questions during the press briefing after practice?

If I were Doc i wouldn't suspend him but make him get in front of the media and let them have at him.

[axeman23]

Funny how Morey is playing hard ball with Ben without factoring in the cost of team chemistry and focus. Are the 76ers not competing for a championship this season? Why bring on all these drama7? Just for some extra assets Morey thinks he can get? Fat greedy sack of

Why should he get rid of Simmons just to get rid of him? If he does a mediocre, or even bad, deal it won't help much with their championship aspirations plus it'll eat up x amount of cap space.

Morey is waiting it out right now because once the season starts teams might have a different view on where their teams are heading. Someone might decided that Simmons would help them and offer a deal for him. Plus all the players who recently signed contracts will be available to trade in December so that opens up his options.

I don't know if that will work out, or what they'll end up trading him for, but I think that's the plan right now.

That is the plan. The Sixers are fine. Embiid is the alpha - the team follows him. Players become available on December 15th. What if Washington starts 5-and-12? Huh? What if Sacramento is 5-and-12?

The only people who say this is an unsalvagable disaster or dumpster fire are the fans of other teams or the media, who are feeding off of this.

"We all we got we all we need"

For the record, I'm a Cavs fan who wants no part of Simmons, unless its a Sexton/Love deal. Only BECAUSE he'd raise out of the cellar we need to BE in to get a premium pick next year, and Cavs don't have the requisite shooters for a Simmons deal if Garland is included...

[Tomjas]

Who else thinks Ben did this partly to get out of answering the awkward questions during the press briefing after practice?

If I were Doc i wouldn't suspend him but make him get in front of the media and let them have at him.

lol

No comment ad nauseam

[axeman23]

I just don't understand all the hate on Simmons.

The Sixers are just awful humans from their GM to the players are fans they deserve this.

Simmons is crashing and burning but he is taking does a holes with him.

Yeah, how dare they ask him to play for them and honor the contract he signed… eeerrrr!!!

Did you SEE the video of fans post-exit? Screw them, and the horse they rode in on...

[queridiculo]

That said, it would be pretty rare for an arbitrator to overturn team disciplinary action, but Simmons has a good case here. It’s nowhere near zero, like you were suggesting.

https://atlhawksfanatic.github.io/NBA-CBA/grievance-and-arbitration-procedure-and-special-procedures-with-respect-to-disputes-involving-player-discipline.html

"Conduct detrimental" is such a wishy washy clause, I'd be shocked if the NBPA didn't file a grievance on his behalf.

"Lack of effort", "being a distraction", that is so subjective that you could fine and suspend almost anybody on a whim.

I mean, the whole quote by Rivers itself is a total cop out.

“I just thought he was a distraction today,” coach Doc Rivers said Tuesday after practice. “I didn't think he wanted to do what everybody else was doing. It was early. It wasn't a big deal. I just told him he should leave. We went on with practice.”

He thought, he thinks, I mean, way to be specific there buddy, I don't see how any of this would stand up to arbitration.